Nervous/anxious/scared about the Autumn budget 2024

Point 2 was the torys woth their green paper for pip using vouchers. You will find labour have delayed this for now but hopefully permanently.

I voted Labour and so far I am not impressed.

They have managed to:

• go for pensioners
• scare vulnerable, disabled people who now fear they will lose the little money they get from the state
• fail to keep the bus fare £2 cap (although buses are more likely to be used by the lower paid and are a lifeline for people in rural areas)
• leave small business with the real possibility of having to make some of their staff redundant, or at least put a freeze on pay rises, if the budget increases their national insurance contribution.

Meanwhile they:

• are still allowing utility companies to fleece us
• have failed to announce any measure to make big corporate companies and wealthy individuals pay their fair share of tax
• have failed to look at reforming MPs' expenses so that they are not getting all their bills and housing subsidised by the taxpayer while the average worker struggles
• are watering down their long awaited reform to workers' right
• agreed public sector pay rises that we can't even afford.

Basically I did not vote to get the Tories 2.0 in power.

Blaming the Tories for everything is also getting really old as an excuse.

If Labour wanted to do what's best for the country they would also accept that we can't afford to prop up foreign aid and the war in Ukraine endlessly while we have people in this country who don't have money to eat proper meals and keep warm.

Do better Starmer.

John, I want to reassure you a little. Labour is not going ahead with the PIP reforms that the Tories proposed and they have said they will announce their own welfare reforms in due course. So nothing immediate for PIP. But of course it is still a worry what might happen further down the road. Not sure about ESA.

ETA: Labour has released this today re:ESA. It is a bit woolly, but seems no immediate plans to cut it or force people into work if they are unable to:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-we-will-build-a-britain-where-those-who-can-work-will-work

Public sector pay rises cost 3 x what the entire asylum and immigration bill is. I mean the immigration bill is not ideal, but it’s not what’s crippling the country.

How exactly does trans inclusive language help foreign and / or disabled users of NHS services?

You know I'm not talking about removing equality for non english speaking patients.

I'm talking about rainbow zebra crossings and pronoun badges and Nurses being forced into a store cupboard. because their employer is too scared to tell a man he shouldn't be in there.

Have you given them a chance ? How long do you give them ?

You were also a noisy and at times rude ‘14 years of tories/tory bot’ Labour supporter. Makes you no more superior.

We are all entitled to our opinions. If mine aren’t the same as yours, that’s ok👍

As a disabled person who relies on ESA and PIP for my income,I am seriously worried that I will get clobbered. Either in the form of benefit cuts,or being told that I can no longer claim ESA and must find a job,the thought of which terrifies me as I am really in no fit state to work,or even look for work. And even if I did look for work,no employer is going to want to employ me with my multiple health problems. Governments, whether they be Conservative or Labour,have form for going after the most vulnerable members of society,and Labour have already demonstrated that they are prepared to make unpopular choices by withdrawing the winter fuel allowance for pensioners.

From what I've heard, social housing rents might be means tested and households with higher income might pay more. I could be wrong, 🤔 😔

Where has it been suggested NI will be applied to pensions?

@BIossomtoes

I agree that family ties matter, but with so many people arriving almost daily, it’s simply not feasible to think that every single one has those connections. This raises serious questions about why some are discarding their documents or skipping over safe countries

You were also a noisy and at times rude ‘14 years of tories/tory bot’ Labour supporter. Makes you no more superior.

We are all entitled to our opinions. If mine aren’t the same as yours, that’s ok👍

You were a noisy Tory supporter on the pre election threads. Of course you have your doubts. How would you know what their plans were if you read no further than the daily mail ?

True socialists weren’t happy with ‘fully funded, fully costed’ to start with, so this is all music to their ears

True socialists weren’t happy with ‘fully funded, fully costed’ to start with, so this is all music to their ears

I didn't support the last Tories very very high taxes on those of us on over £80k (the top 10% - we have the highest tax burden in 70 years. I don't think Labour are going to help either. Tax tax tax. Those other 90% have had tax or NI cuts since 2010. I don't think the budget is going to be good news for many people and women who employ child care will be hit hard if employer NI goes up and if it is imposed on pensions too.

The irony.

Ah yes that fits. A pre GE lie but it's ok, are you getting pay rises or tax rises?

What are labour doing about illegal immigration - this is costing the tax payer millions per day. For me this is why the country is on its knee’s. I’m sorry but unless this government get a grip on this then no amount of increase in tax will make this country better.