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The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:13

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

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Opentooffers · 26/10/2024 22:44

Sounds like you are suffering from jealousy of what some other people have. Your mother and your aunt will of had to pay bedroom tax for under-occupancy.
So you have a degree, you work, you are childless and saving, yet somehow you think your lot will be to just move to a bigger council house when you have DC's? Have you already met the man you plan to procreate with and know that between yo, you'll never earn enough to get your own place? If that's the case, you don't earn enough to be having DC's either maybe.
I don't blame people for buying under the scheme, it worked for them, though I am against the scheme ever having been in existence. But for the scheme, you might of not had to wait 6 years for a flat. However, interesting your default at 19 was to apply for a council home. Is it just because that's how your family got houses? Whereas, my default was to assume I'd buy at some point and my DS's I'd guess would be the same - though likely we'll in the future, not by 25.
Count your blessings maybe, you got provided somewhere cheap to rent as a single person at a relatively young age. That's not bad going these days, a lot will be 30 by the time living independently from parents occurs.Now you can save to buy in future as a choice, freeing up the flat when you do.

JenniferBooth · 26/10/2024 22:43

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 20:43

My mum lives in a three bedroomed council house and has asked to downsize and she has been told no.

This is because all the fuckers in one-bedroom flats that she could downsized to have bought them at giveaway prices.

(How big was that flat you were planning to buy, OP? Grin)

Yeah cos those who dont have living proof that they have had sex without contraception dont even deserve ONE bedroom 🙄

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 22:33

We share a driveway and our front doors are right next to each other and we do chat sometimes plus I work from home occasionally so I do notice the comings and goings but no I'm not a stalker.

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VivX · 26/10/2024 22:21

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:57

With three small children under about 5 in a one bedroom flat I doubt they are working from home somehow!

I worked from home with children under 5 - I just had to do it when they were asleep at night or dh was around. I was very lucky I'm in a profession that could accommodate this - but it's not an impossible scenario, although it does require a bit of organisation and coordination.

Also, unless you are stalking them, how do you know that they aren't working strange shift patterns?

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:21

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

Are you saying that someone bought this and is renting it out or that the people living there bought it and are claiming housing benefit?

If it is the former, that is a good example of how right to buy reduces the amount of council properties and often ends up in the hands of private landlords.

If it's the latter, I doubt that the people who live there would qualify for a mortgage if none of them are working.

sparemeatyre · 26/10/2024 22:19

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 22:02

The Taylor swift concerts would have bought in LOADs for the economy

And loads to TS, and her encourage who budgeted for secure transport. Did TS & Co save £150k, right into their own pockets.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:12

JRSKSSBH · 26/10/2024 22:00

Things are definitely free ….. to some people, like Angela Rayner selling her ex-council home, fudging the situation and avoiding tax. Or one of the recipients of Lord Ali’s largesse (free glasses, suits, football tickets, accommodaton, holidays, birthday parties) or Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10. How about Taylor Swift’s free blue light police convoy to Wembley (cost the British tax payer £150,000 but free to her, save coughing up for lots of freebies for lefty politicians).

'Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10'! Did all the previous Prime Ministers pay rent then?

Angela Rayner was investigated by Manchester Police and was found to have done nothing wrong.

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 22:10

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:05

What a load of fucking racist bollocks.

But unfortunately still allowed to vote Hmm

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:05

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What a load of fucking racist bollocks.

Schnitzelschmitzel · 26/10/2024 22:05

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

😂🙄

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 22:02

JRSKSSBH · 26/10/2024 22:00

Things are definitely free ….. to some people, like Angela Rayner selling her ex-council home, fudging the situation and avoiding tax. Or one of the recipients of Lord Ali’s largesse (free glasses, suits, football tickets, accommodaton, holidays, birthday parties) or Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10. How about Taylor Swift’s free blue light police convoy to Wembley (cost the British tax payer £150,000 but free to her, save coughing up for lots of freebies for lefty politicians).

The Taylor swift concerts would have bought in LOADs for the economy

Isleoftights · 26/10/2024 22:01

'Labour has always been against the right to buy'. Not true ! The 'right to buy' policy first appeared in Labour's 1959 General Election manifesto.

JRSKSSBH · 26/10/2024 22:00

FrowntonAbbey · 26/10/2024 18:31

Oh dear. You also fell for the Labour Party myth that a degree will guarantee you a well-paid job. Welcome to the real world, OP. I’m just surprised it’s taken you this long to realise that nothing comes free in this life.

Things are definitely free ….. to some people, like Angela Rayner selling her ex-council home, fudging the situation and avoiding tax. Or one of the recipients of Lord Ali’s largesse (free glasses, suits, football tickets, accommodaton, holidays, birthday parties) or Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10. How about Taylor Swift’s free blue light police convoy to Wembley (cost the British tax payer £150,000 but free to her, save coughing up for lots of freebies for lefty politicians).

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:00

Thatcher's policy of selling council houses to council tenants but forbidding councils to use the money to replace these houses was disastrous for the majority of working class people because the amount of council house stock diminished making it much harder to be allocated a social home.

Over 40% of homes sold under Margaret Thatcher's right to buy scheme are now in the hands of private landlords.

OP is already lucky being allocated a council house and she wants to take that opportunity away from another family in need.

Labour has always been against right to buy. It isn't something new.

Isleoftights · 26/10/2024 21:58

Recent case, close relative. Relative, long-term tenant on benefits, can't afford 'right to buy'. BUT, the rules allow somone who has 'lived with them for 3 years', to use their funds to buy (in tenant's name). So, 'grandson', after 'pretending' to live there for required 3 years, provides funds to buy council house. The 3 bedroom council house in Manchester, is bought (using maximum 70% discount) for £21,000. They wait another 3 years (to preserve 70% discount). House is then transferred from 80 year old tenant to 'grandson'. 80 year old then moves into care home; £1,000 a week paid for by taxpayer (because they have 'no assets') ! Former council house is then rented out to tenants on 'housing benefit' - paid for by taxpayer. Kerching !

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:57

With three small children under about 5 in a one bedroom flat I doubt they are working from home somehow!

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Beezknees · 26/10/2024 21:55

echt · 26/10/2024 21:48

Except the OP just has made it up: I don't think they work so they are probably climbing housing benefit.

Yep. People in my building would probably assume that I don't work when I actually work full time, I wfh most of the time so I'm in the flat all day dressed in joggers and a hoodie.

SometimesCalmPerson · 26/10/2024 21:54

The Labour Party are hypocrites, you’re right about that, but why do you think you’re entitled to a 50% discount on a flat just because you were lucky enough to be offered a decent council one to rent?

The right to buy scheme is fundamentally unfair and divisive so should have been scrapped years ago.

echt · 26/10/2024 21:48

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 26/10/2024 21:45

And that's the irony of it all. The tax payer pays for the flat to be built, the council tenant buys the flat at a huge discount, rents it to a tenant who claims housing benefit and the tax payers pay the fucking rent! You couldn't make it up!

Except the OP just has made it up: I don't think they work so they are probably climbing housing benefit.

lemmein · 26/10/2024 21:47

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

I can understand you feeling frustrated at missing the opportunity to buy but this policy has contributed massively to the housing crisis we currently have and should never have been implemented in the first place.

If my private landlord decided to sell and I could afford to buy there's no way I would get it at a reduced rate, even though I've been paying their mortgage for 15 years. 50% off market value was always ridiculous - how on earth can you replace housing when you're selling them off at half their worth?

We need more social housing, not less.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 26/10/2024 21:45

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

And that's the irony of it all. The tax payer pays for the flat to be built, the council tenant buys the flat at a huge discount, rents it to a tenant who claims housing benefit and the tax payers pay the fucking rent! You couldn't make it up!

TheyAllFloatDownHere · 26/10/2024 21:43

I thought RTB was staying - but with a 25% discount. Which is still a massive discount.

Anniegetyourgun · 26/10/2024 21:38

I'm still reeling at the claim that Labour sells off the nation's assets. In what alternative timeline? If you can name one they sold off, I'll name you at least 3 that Conservatives handed over to the private sector for peanuts. Anything Thatcher didn't get round to selling, Osborne had a go at.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 26/10/2024 21:36

@prestatynprlck
You do realise that if you buy your council flat it means that someone else in your situation can't ever have it? It will be gone from the social housing stock forever. Like anyone else you have to save a deposit for a place of your own. I hope your mum can get a swap to a smaller place and then a family can benefit.

ilovesooty · 26/10/2024 21:33

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 21:32

I'm guessing it's been authoritatively documented by that great newspaper of record, the Daily Mail Grin

Or by Nigel Farage.

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