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The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:13

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

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AutumnLeaves24 · 28/10/2024 09:46

hazelnutvanillalatte · 28/10/2024 09:20

Exactly...after splitting with my ex, I'm on 23,500 pa with three kids and privately renting a one bedroom as I don't qualify for benefits or social housing. 30k for one person is more than decent!

@hazelnutvanillalatte

you & 3 kids in a 1 bdrm, & you're on £23,500 privately renting.

bloody hell. I'm astounded you don't qualify for UC with housing element.

does he pay decent CMS?
do you have too much in savings?

I don't understand why you aren't entitled to some help??

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:39

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:33

it was defamation to say she was a grooming apologist- not that she liked and then reposted a tweet about white girls keeping their mouths shut.

She did that. She admitted to it.

Yes. But she did not write the tweet, which is what pp said (or cover up for abusers, which pp implied).

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:33

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 09:26

Clearly it is defamation. That’s why she won her libel case.

it was defamation to say she was a grooming apologist- not that she liked and then reposted a tweet about white girls keeping their mouths shut.

She did that. She admitted to it.

Barbadossunset · 28/10/2024 09:32

But when you die then the house is free again.

I don’t think that’s always the case. In our village the resident of a council house died and it has been sold by the council. It’s quite compact, a small sitting room & bedroom and galley kitchen so not suitable for a family, but nonetheless I’m sure there are plenty of single people or couples without children who need it.
I don’t know why it’s been sold - maybe it needs a lot spending on it.

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 09:26

Tryingtokeepgoing · 28/10/2024 09:23

She might not like it being repeated, but it is not defamation to state a fact. And the fact is she tweeted, and that is what I have posted.

Clearly it is defamation. That’s why she won her libel case.

AlbionLass · 28/10/2024 09:24

Ouch!

Hypocritical, devious Labour

After signing the petition against the Labour Party’s disgraceful and devious decision to stop the Winter Fuel Allowance for millions of pensioners, I wanted to let you know about the actions I have taken over the last month or so.

I have informed my local Labour MP Ruth Jones that, after listening to the excuses trying to defend this outrageous and wicked decision, I will never again vote for Labour.

I first voted for Labour in 1979, and have been a member of the party alongside my father for a number of years, attending meetings, plus actually helping Neil and Glenys Kinnock in his bid to win the 1992 election. I am absolutely gobsmacked at the arrogance and contempt which Keir Starmer, Rachel Reeves and Liz Kendall seem to be showing for the people who voted for the party in July.

www.socialistparty.org.uk

Tryingtokeepgoing · 28/10/2024 09:23

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:03

What you have written is defamation.

https://fullfact.org/online/naz-shah-diversity-quote-tweet/

In 2020, Ms Shah successfully sued the campaigning group Leave.EU after it called her a “grooming gang apologist” in a 2019 Facebook post. The group apologised and accepted Ms Shah was a "vociferous campaigner for victims of grooming gangs", said their post was “ill-judged and untrue” and paid her damages for libel.

She told the Yorkshire Post at that time: “I refuse to be defined by a tweet, that was up for eight minutes, that was rectified.”

Edited

She might not like it being repeated, but it is not defamation to state a fact. And the fact is she tweeted, and that is what I have posted.

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 09:20

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:05

Which MPs were involved in the cover up?

There is no evidence. You always know when you’re told to go and Google it.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 28/10/2024 09:20

AutumnLeaves24 · 26/10/2024 19:32

Like many other people, why not you?

how does a single woman, with no children, on £30,000 even qualify for council housing? Families are being (if they're 'lucky' ) housed in shared housing.

let alone RTB ay 50%???

Exactly...after splitting with my ex, I'm on 23,500 pa with three kids and privately renting a one bedroom as I don't qualify for benefits or social housing. 30k for one person is more than decent!

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:13

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:10

You can choose to believe she liked a tweet and then reposted it as an ‘accident’ - I don’t.

She was also suspended from Labour for antisemitic remarks.

Like I said above MPs behaviour on Twitter is unprofessional & appalling. And is a huge driver in the separatism we are seeing in society.

They should be banned from using it.

You can choose to believe she liked a tweet and then reposted it as an ‘accident’ - I don’t

And that is fine. Stating she tweeted those words herself isn't.

Agree about MPs and Twitter though!

AlbionLass · 28/10/2024 09:12

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:10

You can choose to believe she liked a tweet and then reposted it as an ‘accident’ - I don’t.

She was also suspended from Labour for antisemitic remarks.

Like I said above MPs behaviour on Twitter is unprofessional & appalling. And is a huge driver in the separatism we are seeing in society.

They should be banned from using it.

Thank you for this.

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:10

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:03

What you have written is defamation.

https://fullfact.org/online/naz-shah-diversity-quote-tweet/

In 2020, Ms Shah successfully sued the campaigning group Leave.EU after it called her a “grooming gang apologist” in a 2019 Facebook post. The group apologised and accepted Ms Shah was a "vociferous campaigner for victims of grooming gangs", said their post was “ill-judged and untrue” and paid her damages for libel.

She told the Yorkshire Post at that time: “I refuse to be defined by a tweet, that was up for eight minutes, that was rectified.”

Edited

You can choose to believe she liked a tweet and then reposted it as an ‘accident’ - I don’t.

She was also suspended from Labour for antisemitic remarks.

Like I said above MPs behaviour on Twitter is unprofessional & appalling. And is a huge driver in the separatism we are seeing in society.

They should be banned from using it.

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:05

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:04

YES! The Rotherham grooming gangs plus the many many other counties that it happened in.

Do not fool yourself that Labour are any better than the Tories.

Which MPs were involved in the cover up?

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 09:04

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 08:37

and the Labour MPs covered up for thousands of sex abusers.

Got any examples?

YES! The Rotherham grooming gangs plus the many many other counties that it happened in.

Do not fool yourself that Labour are any better than the Tories.

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 09:03

Tryingtokeepgoing · 28/10/2024 08:59

Well Naz Shah (Bradford West) tweeted only a few years ago that the victims of abuse should “shut their mouths for the good of diversity”. And I am sure that a quick google would uncover a whole heap more unpleasant behaviour by Labour MPs and councillors in that area. Not something I plan on googling however.

What you have written is defamation.

https://fullfact.org/online/naz-shah-diversity-quote-tweet/

In 2020, Ms Shah successfully sued the campaigning group Leave.EU after it called her a “grooming gang apologist” in a 2019 Facebook post. The group apologised and accepted Ms Shah was a "vociferous campaigner for victims of grooming gangs", said their post was “ill-judged and untrue” and paid her damages for libel.

She told the Yorkshire Post at that time: “I refuse to be defined by a tweet, that was up for eight minutes, that was rectified.”

Tryingtokeepgoing · 28/10/2024 08:59

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 08:37

and the Labour MPs covered up for thousands of sex abusers.

Got any examples?

Well Naz Shah (Bradford West) tweeted only a few years ago that the victims of abuse should “shut their mouths for the good of diversity”. And I am sure that a quick google would uncover a whole heap more unpleasant behaviour by Labour MPs and councillors in that area. Not something I plan on googling however.

PandoraSox · 28/10/2024 08:44

I don't know why Amesbury is being used as some kind of gotcha. There has always been MPs who have turned out to be criminals.

The by-election will be interesting!

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2024 08:37

and the Labour MPs covered up for thousands of sex abusers.

Got any examples?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 28/10/2024 08:16

I never understand why people think they should have the right to buy their council houses. It's my understanding that council house residents have secure tenure for life, so it isn't as if they are going to get kicked out if they don't buy. We need to keep the social housing stock for future generations. Or, if we must sell it off, then it needs to be sold at proper market rates with all of the money being invested back into new social housing.

People need secure and suitable housing. They don't need to own their own homes. There is no reason why those who are lucky enough to get a council property should be able to profit from buying that property at a lower price while many others on the waiting list can't get council housing at all. If you want to buy, buy privately. If you can't afford to buy privately, then be glad that you have a secure home provided by the council... many people would love to be in your situation.

ShowmetheBotox · 28/10/2024 08:14

thepariscrimefiles · 28/10/2024 07:32

Quite a few sex offenders in that group I believe with some extremely serious allegations.

and the Labour MPs covered up for thousands of sex abusers.

They are both sides of the same coin.

AlbionLass · 28/10/2024 08:02

CurlewKate · 28/10/2024 07:58

@AlbionLass You'll be glad that the Labour hierarchy obviously agree with you.

Yes, im pleased there was no attempt at a cover up etc.

Mind you, the footage was damning!

CurlewKate · 28/10/2024 07:58

@AlbionLass You'll be glad that the Labour hierarchy obviously agree with you.

AlbionLass · 28/10/2024 07:34

I judge a ‘man’ who would use a sucker punch on someone who clearly wasn’t a threat, pretty harshly.

What a fucking bully and coward.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/10/2024 07:32

Zonder · 27/10/2024 20:59

Quite possibly not but there have been plenty of Tory MPs involved in various nefarious acts who the then government didn't rush to suspend. So you must be pleased with how this has been handled so far.

Quite a few sex offenders in that group I believe with some extremely serious allegations.

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