The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

It would be easier to build houses "right now" if councils sold council houses at a price that enabled them to commission replacements.

Saying that there is no evidence any MPs were involved in a cover up is not shameful.

Your post was shameful, good thing it was deleted.

I have no idea what the deleted post said but nobody’s denying anything. Rotherham was a shameful and appalling stain on this country’s history, particularly the council and police force which were both responsible.

I cant honestly think of any other reason why some one would be denying this all the way through a thread. Its shameful

Add to that the Hesley group ABUSE at disabled schools - dozens of reports to police, social care and safeguarding … yet no action taken. Schools in Rotherham & Doncaster.
A whistleblower finally got school closed down but NO arrests because it was “too long ago” for “non -sexual” assaults and “not enough evidence”

The schools are owned by Private Equity & most staff working at other schools now.

Labour loves the criminals.

That is an appalling thing to say about another poster, showmethebotox

I would have voted for the cookie monster! Abolish cookie VAT!

That wasn’t an option on my ballot slip.

Vote for muppets, that’s what you get.

I’m saying that the Jay report doesn’t even mention MPs. Since you don’t like the BBC, the actual report here supports my argument, not yours.

https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/279/independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham

In a way … this “investment scheme” rent to buy, seems like a NOT to fit the definition Labour says is “working people”
Right to buy should be taxed on the difference between market and actual price paid. Tax paid on the “discounted” rent ….

Are they just bribing for votes too?

Its not denial - they just don't care.

It's my understanding that council house residents have secure tenure for life, so it isn't as if they are going to get kicked out if they don't buy

This is generally true, @MrsBennetsPoorNerves, but it's very noticeable that some on the waiting lists who are loudest in insisting "there should be more housing" are the first to grab the opportunity once they're in and there's money to be made

Ask how this can be justified and the best you'll get is "Well you have to look after yourself", which funnily enough is exactly what they used to blast others for before their own opportunity arose

Very well said Showme.

Disgusting that some remain in denial.

Well start off I wouldn't trust a word that comes from the BBC so ill ignore that link.

But seen as your a fan of the BBC - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67967919 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67967919]]]]

But to recap -

"Girls were "left at the mercy" of paedophile grooming gangs for years because of failings by senior police and council bosses, a report has said.
The review covers 2004 to 2013, external and sets out a series of failed investigations by Greater Manchester Police (GMP).
It also highlights the apparent local authority indifference to the plight of hundreds of youngsters identified as potential victims of Asian men.
GMP has apologised and said such cases were handled very differently now.
The report also identifies 96 men still deemed a potential risk to children, adding that this was "only a proportion" of the numbers involved in the abuse.
Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham has since called for disciplinary action to be taken against police officers and council officials who "failed in their duties" as well as some prosecutors in the North West.
He also praised whistleblowers, including health worker Sara Rowbotham and former GMP detective Maggie Oliver, who raised concerns despite facing vocal criticism from authorities.
In 2007, Ms Rowbotham and her team had alerted GMP and Rochdale Council about a gang of men of Pakistani and Afghan heritage engaged in child sexual exploitation (CSE) while Ms Oliver resigned from GMP in 2012 to publicly reveal the extent of the police failings"

Are you telling me that the police knew, the council knew BUT the Labour MPs who served that council - had no idea. Lol.

I seriously doubt it - especially with Naz Shah conduct around it.

But you do know it don't you, you just dont care about it. I see you

The Jay report was highly critical of Rotherham Council and the police. As far as I can see MPs weren’t even mentioned.

Rotherham abuse scandal at a glance https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28942986

or you could buy the council property and then on meeting someone move out and rent the council property out as a landlord charging twice the rent that the council does - and that is what has been happening.

So a council property that rents for £560 a month will rent on the private market at £1000 - which is what is happening across the country

so the [person then renting your property will never have a chance to buy it - as its private rental and they also get to pay way more rent each month

There’s an estate of former council houses where I live that are all in private ownership now. They’re all well built, solid semis on huge plots and they sell the minute they hit the market on the very rare occasion that happens.

I am not justifying the tweet itself at all. It was a reprehensible tweet, parody or not and Shah was wrong to retweet it. But it does seem that she made a mistake.

Which MPs were involved in the cover up of Rotherham? There were terrible failings and those girls were absolutely let down by all authorities involved, no doubt about that, but I don't think any MPs were involved in a cover up? Happy to see evidence that they were, though.

She still liked and reposted it. Thats the same as an endorsement. When you like and repost a tweet from your own account you might have well as wrote it.

Stop justifying it, its pathetic.

And regarding the covering for the abusers there is a lot of evidence such files warning about the activities of paedophile rings were stolen from a locked council office in Rotherham and the Home Office was urged to do an investigation. The report from Prof Alexis Jay in 2014 about the cover up is shocking and i suggest you read it, it found that the Home office knew as far back as 2002 what was happening. But they wanted to keep the seats in those areas and kept quiet about it.

It blows my mind people still refuse to accept it

No they are not difficult to resell. The estate I grew up on a purpose made LA housing - in fact it was the over spill from Ancoats in Manchester. They were bought in the right to buy and are now going for £250,000 which is bonkers as it was very poor when I was little. These are just 3 bed council houses.

Savings from my job pre kids...he pays CMS but is self employed so.

Apologies if already said but you are amazingly lucky to have a council property in the first instance. If you can only afford to buy at a heavily discounted price then it would be very difficult for you to purchase a property at market value and it would also be quite difficult to resell an ex council property unless in a very desirable expensive and desirable area.

I don't know why you've responded to my comment in a shitty way, as that's exactly my point.

I'm talking about everyone in the rented sector, both private and social.

Surely it's an issue and a bit of a time bomb. Millennials and generations afterwards are disproportionately facing living and raising families in rented accommodation. I'm just saying there are several benefits to consider if RTB is done right. The alternative is surely that millions of people across the countries in the next few decades will be elderly pensioners needing to rent forever, with no prospect of not having housing costs. So that will still be a significant cost to councils.