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The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:13

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

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BIossomtoes · 26/10/2024 19:35

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:21

If I am now a council tenant for the rest of my life it's not freeing up a property is it ?

It wouldn’t be if you bought it either. Right to buy should have been abolished by the last Labour government - or better still never have been started in the first place.

MSLRT · 26/10/2024 19:33

Ncocta · 26/10/2024 18:36

I am totally for removing the right to buy scheme - doesn’t make sense that the buyer then sells it and profits greatly at the expense of the council and us taxpayers. Or put in a condition if the buyer sells it within 20 years then they need to give back the profits if sale. This is one if the reasons why our councils are losing so much money when they could have sold it themselves and the money helps everyone

Good enough for Angela Rayner though? It is hypercritical.

AutumnLeaves24 · 26/10/2024 19:32

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:31

I couldn't afford to rent privately in my area. I would have to move back in with my mum.

Like many other people, why not you?

how does a single woman, with no children, on £30,000 even qualify for council housing? Families are being (if they're 'lucky' ) housed in shared housing.

let alone RTB ay 50%???

sparemeatyre · 26/10/2024 19:32

yeaitsmeagain · 26/10/2024 18:55

Then use the motivation to earn and save more, like lots of us have. I lived in a houseshare to save up enough, I wasn't expected to be handed it on a plate.

If you have a degree why are you settling for being underpaid? Health issues?

I run a business and our 25 year old staff with no degrees are buying houses.

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Saving to buy is like dieting. Need motivation and be willing to sacrifice some “enjoyment”

AndBreatheeeee · 26/10/2024 19:32

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FFS
So much ignorance on this thread.
They definitely need to sort the education system out!

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 19:31

How would you be subsidising my house purchase?

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AmICrazyToEvenBother · 26/10/2024 19:31

They're politicians, aren't they?!

TimTamTime · 26/10/2024 19:30

Right to buy absolutely has to go. The state subsidising people buying a house has decimated social housing and is a huge part of the housing crisis. As a taxpayer I absolutely do not want to subsidise your house purchase.

CommanderHaysPaperKnife · 26/10/2024 19:29

We bought a v expensive ex council flat in London around 18 years ago.

When we got the deeds we saw that the person we bought it from had bought from the council directly at a very cheap price, far below market rate. She bought another property and rented out her newly-bought council flat at maximum rate (she crammed 3 individual tenants into a 2 bed flat). She didn't even want to live in it! Then ppl she rented to left it in a right state.

She sold it as soon as she was able and made £100,000s profit. I presume she bought even more property after that.

If property is being sold off below market rate then you're basically inviting individuals to profiteer at the public's expense, even more so in expensive areas.

sparemeatyre · 26/10/2024 19:26

redorangeye110w · 26/10/2024 19:17

Grandad. Is that you.

Put down the daily Mail and go to bed

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Grandads not wrong ….. it’s happening across UK.

you prob can’t get him care when he needs it as social care too busy … call your local social & ask what’s changed in past 5 years …

autumn1610 · 26/10/2024 19:25

@prestatynprlck i was on a salary around the same as yours and brought a house on a not dissimilar price range, while i was privately renting. i think your actually not in a bad position and sounds like a pity party, as something you wanted to do is being taken away. I don’t agree with RTB while housing stocks aren’t being maintained.

CyanPlayer · 26/10/2024 19:25

AutumnLeaves24 · 26/10/2024 19:23

Well, we would all like to buy a property at 50% of its market value and after having cheap rent.

why should some be allowed to & the rest of us not??

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Exactly.
Social housing isn't meant to give people an asset. Just a roof over their head.
Also land is finite. How they houses be built indefinitely? The maths ain't mathing.

AutumnLeaves24 · 26/10/2024 19:23

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:38

I could afford to buy the flat at the 50% discount they were offering, not at market value.

Well, we would all like to buy a property at 50% of its market value and after having cheap rent.

why should some be allowed to & the rest of us not??

CyanPlayer · 26/10/2024 19:23

Nevermind91 · 26/10/2024 19:21

To be fair to Labour, they aren't doing anything they haven't done before.
Stage 1: Hit those who have saved.
Stage 2: Hit business.
Stage 3: Sell off any national assets that people won't miss.
Stage 4: Run out of cash and lose election.
Stage 5: Complain like mad when the next administration makes cuts to services.

How is removing the WFA and RTB related to any of those?

Also what do you suggest they do instead? Where is this magic money tree?

Nevermind91 · 26/10/2024 19:21

To be fair to Labour, they aren't doing anything they haven't done before.
Stage 1: Hit those who have saved.
Stage 2: Hit business.
Stage 3: Sell off any national assets that people won't miss.
Stage 4: Run out of cash and lose election.
Stage 5: Complain like mad when the next administration makes cuts to services.

CommanderHaysPaperKnife · 26/10/2024 19:20

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:21

If I am now a council tenant for the rest of my life it's not freeing up a property is it ?

it is when you eventually die and the housing stock is passed on... or if you move

Thevelvelletes · 26/10/2024 19:19

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:31

I couldn't afford to rent privately in my area. I would have to move back in with my mum.

Be grateful for what you've got then.
And that's coming from a council tenant.

redorangeye110w · 26/10/2024 19:17

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Grandad. Is that you.

Put down the daily Mail and go to bed

Sparklesocks · 26/10/2024 19:16

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Staggeringly wrong…

Melonportal · 26/10/2024 19:16

Can you use your lifetime ISA for your retirement instead?

CyanPlayer · 26/10/2024 19:14

YABVVU to be so selfish and greedy. You're already so lucky to get a one bed council flat as a single woman. Secure tenancy, safe from the vagaries of the rental market and a 30K salary with no children. What exactly is stopping you from saving up and buying? Or even taking on a second job?

You do realise 30K is the average salary in the country. Rent is crippling especially in places like London but that's less of a problem for you.

Also you don't even have a boyfriend but you're thinking about children. Maybe work on securing your financial future first?

So many other people are stuck in house shares while you're happily ensconced in your one bed. Or at risk of being kicked out when LL's sell up, struggling to find another property with a similarly low rent. Yet that's not enough for you.

I don't really like Labour. But I do agree with some of the 'unpopular' but much needed decisions they're making.

GreekDogRescue · 26/10/2024 19:10

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AppleDumplingWithCustard · 26/10/2024 19:10

The Labour Party has always been hypocritical. Don’t know why anybody is surprised tbh.

ChefsKisser · 26/10/2024 19:03

mummyh2016 · 26/10/2024 18:43

RTB either needs to mean houses are sold for their actual value or stopped altogether. It makes no sense whatsoever to sell them to tenants at a discount.

This. Right to buy is a farce and a joke to everyone who’s stuck in private rental while trying desperately to save for a home. I’m all for social housing and we need more of it- exactly why it’s right that RTB should end.
Labour are making some v difficult and unpopular decisions but I agree with scrapping RTB and making winter fuel allowance means tested so I’m not too fed up so far.

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 19:01

Well, I earn 30k a year and the average house price in my area is 260k so unless I find a partner soon who I can buy with I'm stumped.

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