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To think I should be allowed to have savings?

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Haribosuperstar · 26/10/2024 15:42

Im married but we’ve never had a joint account. We have three primary aged dc and I stopped working for a few years whilst they were all tiny. I’m back now - 30 hours - and my take home is around £1600. It’s not a highly paid job, unfortunately. I also do all the pick ups and drop offs and facilitate clubs. I do all the cooking and housework etc too.

DH earns around £190k and has a car allowance / fuel / phone also paid for. We don’t have a mortgage. I appreciate he pays a lot of tax on this. He has about £70k in savings and a large pension. I have about £1k in savings a nothing much to speak of pension wise.

DH gives me another £400 a month so I have £2k total. From this I pay for the dc hobbies which is nearly £400, I pay for their clothes, Christmas gifts, birthday gifts. I pay for half the food shopping - approx £350 a month. I pay for my own car, phone etc. My car is on finance because my other car broke down and I couldn’t afford to flat out replace it so I pay that as well as the fuel, insurance etc. I pay the council tax. After those things I’m left with about £800 a month maybe? I also pay for quite a few days out with the kids. Oh and for wrap around three nights a week which is another £80 a month.

The last few months I’ve been trying to save between £150 and £200 a month to try and build up a bit of cash in case of emergencies / if my car needed repair / if I needed a dentist etc.
I mentioned this to DH and he said ‘I didn’t realise you could afford to save, I’ll have to stop giving you so much money,’ and then laughed.

It has upset me because I feel quite vulnerable with nothing and also I’ve always felt very much the poor partner in the relationship.

AIBU to think it’s ok for me to save a bit? I am looking for a better job before anyone says but it’s hard to fit around the kids and then I’m paying a lot of childcare.

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FuglyBitch · 26/10/2024 21:05

you need to up your work hours to full time and getting wraparound childcare/nanny and cleaners/gardeners etc which you should both pay for, but as a ratio of your income.
Get your DH to do his fair share of drop offs, pick ups, cooking, ferrying kids to activities.
he needs to step up and start contributing to the family equally

Hoosemover · 26/10/2024 20:53

How does your husband expect you to cope financially if he dropped dead tomorrow ? he seems to think very little about you or his children welfare.

DH and I both have access to savings should anything happen to get through a few months.

BogusHocusPocus · 26/10/2024 20:39

Spirallingdownwards · 26/10/2024 16:00

Why are you paying all the council tax all child related costs and half the food.

Please tell me you are paying into a pension?

What exactly is he paying for if you have no mortgage?

Yes, if the mortgage is paid off, what exactly does he pay for?

He sounds exceptionally mean and selfish.

ChateauMargaux · 26/10/2024 20:36

And few nannies are keen to look after three children, so you might need a senior and junior nanny, and they are not responsible for housework... so you will have a few salary calculations to do... don't forget household admin.. that's another job.

ChateauMargaux · 26/10/2024 20:35

Send him a bill for all of the hours of childcare including pick up and drop of, weekend and evening premiums and housekeeping you have done. Be reasonable and charge him only 50%. As it is in home care, it will be at premium nanny and housekeeper rates. You can offset the amount he has given you.

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 26/10/2024 20:34

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 26/10/2024 20:31

I have never heard people talking openly about their set ups or with parents. How one does this...

We don't do shared accounts but he paid for everything when I was home stay for donkeys years and when restarted work, he does not ask even a penny.

I just had the good fortune meeting a man who is generous and treats me like a princess ....but i worry about how to talk about that to my daughter because she might inherit few people and end up very naive - she can be

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 26/10/2024 20:31

GetTheFormDone · 26/10/2024 16:34

How has this gone on for so long??? Do your friends and family know about the current setup?

OP get out and get half of everything.

I have never heard people talking openly about their set ups or with parents. How one does this...

We don't do shared accounts but he paid for everything when I was home stay for donkeys years and when restarted work, he does not ask even a penny.

Gottastoppostingsomuch · 26/10/2024 20:16

SureLight · 26/10/2024 16:03

You have a terrible husband, OP. And you must be delusional if you think he only has £70k saved when he earns £190k per year, has no mortgage and no car costs. Either that or he has some exceptionally expensive hobbies.

Why in gods name are you paying for all of the child related costs when he earns 10x more than you?

This! Even if he put maximum yearly contributions into his pension (60k) he will be bringing home at the least 6.5k a month, prob a lot more, and he’s only paying for very minimal bills?! He must be saving thousands a month.

OP your post made me feel very sad, as a SAHM with a high earning husband I can’t begin to imagine living like this (I have full financial control, decisions are joint and everything is shared)

LivinInYourBigGlassHouseWithAView · 26/10/2024 20:15

Wow

Your husband is a massive dick. And he's not in this with you.

KimDealsBass · 26/10/2024 20:10

YANBU!

This is not an equal partnership. Couples vary on how they divide up the finances, domestic chores, childcare etc, but when it's as one-sided as this, I have to say that you are being abused.

As others have already pointed out, he seems to think his earnings are exclusively 'his' while doing none of the domestic labour and expecting the childcare to come out of your earnings alone. He wouldn't have much money left over if he was paying cleaners, housekeepers and childminders to do that work, let's put it that way.

Seriously, please seek advice on how to get out of this 'marriage' that is so heavily stacked in his favour. He's gaslighting you.

Wolframandhart · 26/10/2024 20:08

It has upset me because I feel quite vulnerable

this is his intention. So you cannot afford the lawyer no doubt. Keep saving and atop telling him. Stop paying for food too. And other bills.

WorthyMauveEagle · 26/10/2024 20:06

Divorce him

OopsyDaisie · 26/10/2024 20:06

BMW6 · 26/10/2024 15:48

You are married so you own half the house, savings in his name, pension. He own half of yours.

Not having a joint account makes no difference, legally. You just have an odd and pretty silly way of paying for household expenses.

Do you think he knows you legally own half of everything?

This!

Strictlymad · 26/10/2024 20:01

What exactly is he paying for? Legacy it’s half yours and half his. May as well have joint accounts for Al as it is in the eyes of the law. On 190 k he will be bringing in thousands a month - for what?

CrowleyKitten · 26/10/2024 19:58

honestly, it sounds like he doesn't want you to have enough savings to leave him, and he'd lose a lot more money that way. so he wants it so you can't afford to, no matter how he treats you.

Lemonadeand · 26/10/2024 19:53

You would be in a much better financial position if you divorced him, as long as he didn’t go for 50:50.

Cailin66 · 26/10/2024 19:51

OP is being financially abused. The fact her post even asks if she can have savings is symbolic of this. His comment to her is revolting. And indicative of his mindset.

snoopsy · 26/10/2024 19:47

this is financial abuse. what does he spend his disposable income on?
is the rest of your marriage loving? is he respectful?
I am wondering if your husband comes from a particularly sexist culture or upbringing?

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 26/10/2024 19:46

Seems odd to me that you’re married and have three children yet don’t have a joint account

CrowleyKitten · 26/10/2024 19:46

StMarieforme · 26/10/2024 18:36

Further to my previous reply- here are my thoughts.
You should have a joint account. Finances belong to the family in a marriage. If he will not, and for some reason you choose not to leave him, this is what should happen;
ALL family expenses should be added up, including food, car payments, your fuel, kids clothes, presents etc, your day to day bits like lunches etc, (his too) ALL of it. Then you EACH pay a proportionate amount into an account to cover it.
Your income is £1600
His income is £9500
Total income is £11500
Your income is

this is largely how we did it. no joint accounts (we talked about it, and both felt we'd feel like we couldn't buy things we wanted if it was from joint money.
so we looked at what we each have coming in, and divided the bills accordingly. he gets more money than I do, so he pays for most of them, and the food shopping. I pay for our phone and internet (which includes some of our streaming services, my phone, TV license, pet insurance and some others.
he pays for pretty much everything else.
when I had to stop working, he set up a standing order so I wasn't any worse off, and was still able to manage my side of the costs, and still have money for myself.
and if one of us needs a bit of help when things get tight, the other takes up some of the slack. because ultimately, it's all for our household. it just means by keeping it separate, if I see something I want and can afford it, I don't feel like I have to justify getting it, and vice versa.

MostlyCloudy1 · 26/10/2024 19:41

Flaming fuck , my husband earns £2k + per month and gives me £200 to top up my own wage. We bought a second car together outright as “his” car was passed down from his father. Why? Because if I didn’t have the car, he’d be doing all the travel with the kids, he would be relied on to go out with the family. We don’t have a joint account, but it works as we’re transparent. (I just don’t tell him regular how much the savings are at in case he gets a bit wild and loose at the thought, and he’d appreciate this sentiment 😂)

Your man sounds like a fucking monster, making to live in the bare bones. wtf is he doing with the rest of his monthly income?

NerrSnerr · 26/10/2024 19:39

It's utterly shocking that you appear to think it's ok that you got a car on finance when he earns so much and has savings.

Is that how a husband should behave, who's supposed to love you and want you to be happy?

He's got it made. He's paying £400 a month for a nanny and housekeeper isn't he?

Viviennemary · 26/10/2024 19:37

Haribosuperstar · 26/10/2024 15:42

Im married but we’ve never had a joint account. We have three primary aged dc and I stopped working for a few years whilst they were all tiny. I’m back now - 30 hours - and my take home is around £1600. It’s not a highly paid job, unfortunately. I also do all the pick ups and drop offs and facilitate clubs. I do all the cooking and housework etc too.

DH earns around £190k and has a car allowance / fuel / phone also paid for. We don’t have a mortgage. I appreciate he pays a lot of tax on this. He has about £70k in savings and a large pension. I have about £1k in savings a nothing much to speak of pension wise.

DH gives me another £400 a month so I have £2k total. From this I pay for the dc hobbies which is nearly £400, I pay for their clothes, Christmas gifts, birthday gifts. I pay for half the food shopping - approx £350 a month. I pay for my own car, phone etc. My car is on finance because my other car broke down and I couldn’t afford to flat out replace it so I pay that as well as the fuel, insurance etc. I pay the council tax. After those things I’m left with about £800 a month maybe? I also pay for quite a few days out with the kids. Oh and for wrap around three nights a week which is another £80 a month.

The last few months I’ve been trying to save between £150 and £200 a month to try and build up a bit of cash in case of emergencies / if my car needed repair / if I needed a dentist etc.
I mentioned this to DH and he said ‘I didn’t realise you could afford to save, I’ll have to stop giving you so much money,’ and then laughed.

It has upset me because I feel quite vulnerable with nothing and also I’ve always felt very much the poor partner in the relationship.

AIBU to think it’s ok for me to save a bit? I am looking for a better job before anyone says but it’s hard to fit around the kids and then I’m paying a lot of childcare.

Such an imbalance of earnings can cause problems. I don't think you should be cutting back in order to save. If you feel insecure financially this should be addressed in a different way.

TinyGingerCat · 26/10/2024 19:33

Joint account or not is not the issue. DH and I had a similar set up to you in terms of income and we never had a joint account because I didn't want one (for reasons not relevant here). The massive difference was DH paid for everything day to day, including putting money in my account. When I went back to work my salary paid for holidays and savings and DH also put his annual bonus straight into my bank account. If i ever needed any more money i just had to ask. The other important thing was we claimed CB and DH paid it back via his tax return to ensure the years I was a SAHP were covered for national insurance contributions. I now earn significantly more but DH has continued paying the lions share and I do all the savings, big purchases and holidays. It works for us because we both know exactly what the other earns. Your DH is being financially abusive and potentially financially stupid if he isn't making best use of your ISA allowance given he's such a high earner.

BellaVita · 26/10/2024 19:31

Wow, just wow.

This is not ok OP and you do not need our validation on that because you already know it’s not ok.