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Muddy walk: who IBU

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Ezekiela · 26/10/2024 13:58

Background: I enjoy walking; DH not so much, he does other sports but not much since an injury some months ago.

TLDR: I think he ruined my day out by delaying our departure, wearing unsuitable shoes and cutting the walk short. He thinks I'm unreasonable for not staying on the broad smooth path that we started on and expecting him to walk on a rocky, muddy path where he might fall and aggravate his injury.

Earlier this week, we had a good weather forecast so I planned to visit a beauty spot an hour's drive away; let's say a woodland with colourful autumn leaves. Asked DH if he wanted to come on a scenic walk (answer is normally no, but I always ask.) He said yes. He asked, is there a path? I said yes, it's a popular place so there will be, but I've never been there before so can't say what it's like and given recent rain, it might be muddy.

He didn't want to set off for two hours because of something time-critical he was doing at home. Then when he was ready, I expressed my surprise that he was wearing trainers, not hiking boots. I again said it might be muddy but he replied "These are the most comfortable" so I left it.

The first part of the walk, from the car park to the woodland was on a wide, mostly flat track (suitable for wheelchairs and buggies.) At the wood itself, the path was narrower and strewn with rocks and boulders. No scrambling needed, just stepping over / around the rocks but, as expected, some areas were a bit muddy so you had to pick your way.

He was clearly unhappy, started dragging behind, said he didn't want to continue. I said "this part is the whole reason I've come here so I'm not turning back now."

At one point the path came close to a road so he said he would walk back on the road round the wood instead of through it. I knew if I stayed in the wood I wouldn't enjoy it because of worrying about him, so I also walked back on the road. Admittedly this was my choice. Then he wanted to go straight back to the car the way we had come, instead of completing the circular walk.

AIBU to feel resentful?

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MereDintofPandiculation · 27/10/2024 14:43

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:35

My dilemma now is, I am planning a holiday to Northumberland next year, but is there any point if he won't walk Hadrian's Wall or a bit of the coastal path?

You find some accommodation with options so you can have a couple of good walks on your own while he potters round the wheelchair friendly stuff. And a bit of Hadrians Wall with a museum so you can walk and he can mooch

Juicyj1993 · 27/10/2024 14:40

I personally do not enjoy walking- just don't find it fun. My DH is from a family who love a walk.

On occasions where I've gone with them I am often long done before they are, so I'll go back at a point it makes sense and then I'll go and sit in the car (or the cafe if one of available), they don't come with me they continue the walk until they are ready.

You should have continued the walk and just let him go back and wait in the car. You didn't need to end your walk too..

MargaretThursday · 27/10/2024 14:36

I used to be on the other side of this.

My family, especially df liked walks. I do not. Apparently not going was missing out on wonderful family time. So I'd be "jollied" into going. I did not appreciate this.

A typical walk with my df leading would be:

  1. 2-3 times as long as he'd given the impression it would be (I remember one "quick stroll for a couple of hours", asking him how much further when we'd been out for 3 hours, and he pointed to a hill in the distance. "See that hill. We're aiming for the one just beyond that." It wasn't a circular route either)
  2. Include at least one pathway that was either muddy over the top of shoes level, steep, or both, and maybe overgrown with brambles too. No I didn't wear trousers, but tbf to df, he was probably wearing shorts.
  3. Through a farm. Dogs love df. He'd walk through with them wagging their tails. Then they'd turn on us out of frustration that he'd gone. Or something like that.
  4. Through a cow field. See above.
  5. Dm's special pack lunch. That included a still-frozen drink and soggy sandwiches. My superpower includes being able to dispose of entire pack lunch sitting next to my family without them noticing. Lack of food/drink gives me migraines. Not good.
  6. A very long wait while he gets the binoculars out to identify the speck in the distance which might, but probably isn't, the lesser spotted grey neck beasty. This will be in a very windy exposed place where there's nowhere to sit down. This will be repeated a few times.
  7. Getting lost. Normally meaning either walking round in a circle, or him deciding there's a short cut. See point number 2.
  8. Another long wait while he discusses with the local farmer the merits of the particular brand of sheep/cows/wheat they stock. Even the farmer is bored of the conversation long before df is. Repeat for unusual breeds of dog.
  9. Stopping as the sun goes down so he can get a sunset photo. He has some lovely ones. Wish I'd only seen the photo.
  10. Coming back after dark with no torches etc. Anyone that thinks climbing up Pendle Hill on Halloween, don't. You meet some very weirdly dressed people going up. The only advantage in this is that when you're as hopelessly lost as we were, at least there were some people to ask directions of.
  11. And the hunt for the car. The car isn't where it was left. Or at any rate where he thought it was left. So a hunt in the darkness until we found it. Occasionally dm used to find a phone box first and we'd have a debate about at what point calling the police and reporting it stolen was a good idea.
  12. At this point, never before, df would suddenly realise how muddy we were. Not a speck of mud should be going in the car. So we'd be brushing us off etc until we were allowed in. And then he'll moan when it's light about the mud in the car.

So when we got home, then dbr as the youngest would be sent for a bath, while the rest of us stood on newspapers so not to get mud anywhere. Dbr, as the irritating younger brother, would naturally make sure his bath went to Guinness Record Book attempts for longest bath.
Then it would be a quick baked beans on toast meal, followed by having to scrub our trainers (we only had 2 pairs of shoes normally) in order for them to be acceptable enough for PE the next day.

Tell him to stay at home and enjoy the peace.

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 14:34

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 27/10/2024 14:02

OP how serious was your DH injury? Is he elderly or otherwise frail?

It required surgery and physio for a while but that ended ages ago.

Middle aged and not frail.

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Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 14:30

coffeesaveslives · 27/10/2024 14:03

You'll both have to compromise, or go on your own if you want a walking holiday, and then he gets a week (or whatever) to holiday wherever he likes too.

I do holiday on my own when I want to go somewhere he doesn't; he says he doesn't mind. I've suggested that he could go somewhere without me, but he doesn't want to.

We do compromise quite well on joint holidays but they are usually city breaks.

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DilemmaDelilah · 27/10/2024 14:13

@Ezekiela I would have thought holidays should be discussed between you both? Not just planned by you? If you desperately want to go to Northumberland and he doesn't then go by yourself for a long weekend and let him do whatever he wants to do that you find boring for a long weekend. Holidays together should be something you will both enjoy - it may not be easy to find something you can both agree on but there must be something. Maybe going somewhere that will allow you to hike off the beaten track but that also offers things he likes. Obviously I don't know what he likes otherwise maybe I/we could make some suggestions.

coffeesaveslives · 27/10/2024 14:03

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:59

I can't think of anything he would want to do that I wouldn't. I guess it's a conversation we need to have before booking.

You'll both have to compromise, or go on your own if you want a walking holiday, and then he gets a week (or whatever) to holiday wherever he likes too.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 27/10/2024 14:02

OP how serious was your DH injury? Is he elderly or otherwise frail?

QueSyrahSyrah · 27/10/2024 14:01

@Ezekiela It is, I was just demonstrating what your DH might have had in his head when he asked about a path. I can confirm it gets damp and muddy in places in wet weather but nothing that couldn't be picked around in trainers if you're careful.

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:59

coffeesaveslives · 27/10/2024 13:46

Can't you do the walks while he does something else?

I can't think of anything he would want to do that I wouldn't. I guess it's a conversation we need to have before booking.

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Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:56

QueSyrahSyrah · 27/10/2024 13:45

@MereDintofPandiculation Yeah it's particularly dreary when the red squirrels are playing in the trees alongside, and when you get right to the end and are confronted with this view well you might as well just chuck yourself under the nearest bus instead Wink

That does look like a proper path, albeit somewhat damp underfoot in places.

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coffeesaveslives · 27/10/2024 13:46

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:35

My dilemma now is, I am planning a holiday to Northumberland next year, but is there any point if he won't walk Hadrian's Wall or a bit of the coastal path?

Can't you do the walks while he does something else?

QueSyrahSyrah · 27/10/2024 13:45

@MereDintofPandiculation Yeah it's particularly dreary when the red squirrels are playing in the trees alongside, and when you get right to the end and are confronted with this view well you might as well just chuck yourself under the nearest bus instead Wink

Muddy walk: who IBU
Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:35

My dilemma now is, I am planning a holiday to Northumberland next year, but is there any point if he won't walk Hadrian's Wall or a bit of the coastal path?

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Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:32

Thank you everybody: all the comments are helpful and appreciated.

The main message I'm taking from this is to be more understanding of the fear he has regarding the injury. I thought that as it has healed, he could carry on as before, but clearly not.

I will try to find some easier, wheelchair-friendly routes to do with him until he gets his confidence back. There are a couple locally. I won't invite him to join me unless I know it's suitable terrain for him.

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Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 13:12

NowImNotDoingIt · 27/10/2024 10:16

Is your relationship ok otherwise @Ezekiela ?

Was your worry about him about safety or him being even moodier/taking it out on you etc?

I think, all things being good otherwise it was just a case of breakdown in communication and different expectations. This can be annoying of course, but it happens and not the end of the world. Doesn't mean any of you were necessarily in the wrong or deliberately a prick.

You gave something a go, it didn't work out, and you also found out that his injury, although healed , is not completely past him.

Relationship is generally OK. I wasn't worried about his safety nor that he would "take it out on me" per se. He was unhappy, grumpy and a bit sulky, so I wanted to keep him as happy as possible, bearing in mind that I had already refused to turn back when the path turned from a smooth path to a track, because we had just reached the part which was the whole point of going there.

I think I do need to give more thought in future to the impact the injury had on him psychologically, not just physically.

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Bloom15 · 27/10/2024 13:05

@Ezekiela - apologies I meant not walking where it was muddy or afraid of falling when I said not wanting to do something.

Just go on your own from now on unless it a 'proper' path

Bloom15 · 27/10/2024 12:59

nocoolnamesleft · 26/10/2024 23:14

That path does look pretty dodgy for someone carrying an injury. I certainly wouldn't dare risk it with my temperamental back.

I was thinking the same thing. If I slipped and made my back injury worse I would be gutted

Brefugee · 27/10/2024 12:57

you are not unreasonable to be niggled by this. You are unreasonable to let it fester so just learn from it.

You go on walks alone and go where you want, or you take DH and you both compromise a bit.

longtompot · 27/10/2024 12:54

Ezekiela · 26/10/2024 21:41

Thank you for this, it helps me to understand his viewpoint. Just for clarity, he has recovered from the injury but is afraid it could recur.

I had an injury, popped a calf muscle, and even when I'd recovered from it, as it happened out of the blue I was worried it could happen again. I've had it happen twice in my life, once in each leg.
Dh and I went for a walk which involved a steep step section. I started to go up, but could feel my leg starting to get a bit sore so said I couldn't go any further and was worried about getting back down again, so he said that's ok. We came back down, went back to the car and went on a different walk. No one was upset with the other and we got to have our walk in the winter sunshine.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 27/10/2024 12:20

By my standards that is a really good path.

Right?! It's something one of my munro guiles would describe as clear and excellent.
From OPs DH whingeing I'd expected bog or scree.

MiddleClassProblem · 27/10/2024 12:00

I don’t think the “He delayed me for two hours” narrative is fair. You asked him and he told you up front that he couldn’t come for two hours so you could have said if you had to go earlier but maybe next time.

Looking at that path I would be fine in trainers but if he’s whiny about mud then that’s annoying in anybody on a walk tbh.

If he has recently had an injury it’s fair to be cautious. I don’t know if it’s an upper body injury somewhere else or in fact a broken finger like you stated. If it’s the later it’s less reasonable but if that’s an exaggeration on your part that’s also less reasonable.

TBH I think it’s not a big issue, just a bit annoying for both but at least you know what it’s like now and have done a recce for your next walk there.

Ezekiela · 27/10/2024 11:57

Bloom15 · 27/10/2024 11:04

YABU - I am more like your husband and if my DH made such a fuss of me not doing something I didn't want to do I would be annoyed. I have a bad back so can't do rocky terrain and I hate walking through mud

I didn't force him to go. In the words of the famous Mumsnet saying, it was an invitation, not a summons.

The time to decide he didn't want to do it was before we set off, not once we had arrived. I didn't do a 2-hr round trip* just to NOT see the beauty spot.

I also didn't make a fuss. He was the one making the fuss.

*It was actually well over an hour on the return because we hit rush hour traffic, because of setting off two hours late.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 27/10/2024 11:46

QueSyrahSyrah · 27/10/2024 10:03

@Hunglikeapolevaulter I was replying to the PP who was incredulous that anyone goes for a walk without going off the path.

'The path' and the 'The natural ground' can be the same thing, as illustrated by OP's picture actually.

I've attached a picture similar to our local walking path. Perhaps OP's DH was expecting closer to that in which case his trainers would have been fine. Either way I don't think it's a big deal, just a mismatch in expectation of a place that neither person had visited before.

How depressing that path looks! Might as well do circuits of your local park.

pictoosh · 27/10/2024 11:45

NowImNotDoingIt · 27/10/2024 09:58

No it isn't.

By my standards that is a really good path.