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Should I return to relationship with Ex-DP?

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3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 08:26

I am (nervously!) back for more advice. Last time posting about this issue was a bit challenging, but there was some very helpful perspectives and advice among the responses, so I am returning for further advice.

My first thread is here, for background: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5057874-aibu-to-not-fund-ex-partners-children

Since then, things have moved on a bit. Ex-DP’s ex-wife asked to have the bedroom furniture from the children’s rooms at my house, I assumed to upgrade the furniture at her home or to go to Ex-DP’s new place or storage, depending on his ultimate plans. I agreed and she came to collect it. It turns out she wanted it to sell, with the money going to fund the trip one of their children was going on. I felt a bit funny on hearing that news, but ultimately I wanted the furniture gone and realise with that comes not having a say in how the next person chooses to use it.

I also ended up writing a goodbye card to each of the children with a generous gift voucher in each - one for books (as we shared a love of reading and used to go to bookstores and the library together) and the other for lessons/paraphernalia in the sport they do. I told ex-DP I was going to do this, and gave them to ex-DP’s ex-wife when she came to collect the furniture.

Recently (so about 4 months after all this), I was watching my nieces play sport for their school team with my sister and ex-DP was there watching one DC also play (different teams, different ages, they don’t usually play at the same time, this was an unusual schedule change). We had a mutual sideline, so he came over and spoke to us and we watch the games side by side. At the conclusion of the game his DC came over, said hello and were happy to see me. This was brief, as we all needed to leave and clear the field for the next set of games.

Since then, I ran into Ex-DP again at a mutual friend’s birthday drinks, and we chatted. He asked me about resuming the relationship, or to start again by dating and seeing how things go. He says it could be like the first 2 years, where we didn’t live together and the children didn’t live here, but we dated, spent nights at each others homes, and had weekend and holidays away. His contact with the children would be during his own time, and he says we could look long term at re-introducing things, if we both wanted too, but the important thing would be to focus on us right now and not throw away that, due to some difficult teenage years. He asked to meet for coffee this week to discuss it further.

I’m unsure whether to meet again or what to do. Turning it over in my mind, the idea has some merit. I miss him, and our relationship. It is not easy to find someone you get on with so well, and who can support themselves (yes, I do earn a considerable amount more than him, but he still earns well above a average). However it’s not lost on me that he has not found his own accommodation and is still living with his parents. So I feel like this means whilst any dates or meals or activities ‘out’ would be out and about, any time ‘at home’ (dinners, nights in, weekends etc) would be spent at my home, not his. We have too much history to spend months in the activities ‘out’ dating stage for long, it feels like he would effectively be stealthily moving back in, albeit, spending time back at his parents with the children or when needed.

He absolutely denies this, and says it would be dating, weekends away and only moving at a pace we are both comfortable with. He said he wants to listen to me, and work through it, as we should have done originally.

I’m not sure what to think. I miss him. But the end was so unpleasant, and I’m not sure if he means it, or if this is just softening me up? Or even if what he is suggesting would work or be fair to him and the children.

I’d appreciate thoughts, as I can’t view this very objectively right now.

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Anna808 · 26/04/2025 10:27

Wow. Remember, his grifting behavior had nothing to do with you. At all. He is a user, basically of the highest order. It could be said it was useful he travelled to your holiday destination to see his true colours unfurl in front of all your family to witness too. You are well shot of him and his manipulative ways. I feel also for his kids.

MyHouseIsABusStop · 20/04/2025 16:01

I am shook after reading your update! WTAF!!! Thankfully he doesn’t seem to have carried on with the stalker behaviour which I’m glad to hear… but seriously? What kind of batshit behaviour is that?!?

And like many PPs have said before me, you sound splendid OP, like truly lovely and kind hearted. I’m sorry to hear that you are still feeling lonely, but I just know you will meet someone who will appreciate you for the wonderful person you are if that’s what you want in life. And if not… at least you have the offer of marriage from your cute little nephew 🥰

Take care OP, and thanks for the update x

Mumofteenandtween · 20/04/2025 15:56

For what it's worth, I think you sound fucking splendid.

Absolutely! I’d date you except (1) my husband would be cross and (2) I have very annoying kids and you have probably had enough of other peoples annoying kids!

AlertCat · 20/04/2025 15:54

You sound great, @3LemonsAndLime , and your family too.

On the loneliness issue. Could you turn being alone and financially comfortable into a benefit, and take up a new hobby, travel to places nobody else you know wants to visit, or something like that? Even if this is a naff idea, I still think you could meet someone nice- you are nice, you have good boundaries and good instincts (and a fantastic sister), and there will be someone who suits you. OLD doesn’t work in my opinion, but it’s still possible to meet someone organically just through the life you live.

Good luck and I hope you find peace at least- with someone or in splendid independent isolation. You do sound fabulous, I’d love to meet you for a coffee because you come across as such good company.

cordeliavorkosigan · 20/04/2025 15:48

The brass neck!! Wow.
You did kind of knew he might do this, because you said in a previous post that while he might be saying he was still coming in the holiday you'd changed the dates, so even if he turned up..
I agree with pp that he probably wasn't with you just for the money, I'm sure he genuinely really likes you as well, but the cheek of this is extreme. Obviously.

You did not financially disadvantage him. In the reverse situation with the woman at home, which you're drawing parallels to, the financial disadvantage is usually that she can't work because there are young children! Not that she is a strong earner too but is not forced to save or pay a mortgage. There was no disadvantage.

Glad you're doing ok and thanks for the updates. I hope you do find some great things to do on your own and then a wonderful partner.

DorothywiththeRedShoes · 20/04/2025 15:25

I just wanted to add that I don't think he was with you for your money, so please don't think that.

You are obviously a very intelligent and kind person. ❤️

Blanca87 · 20/04/2025 15:09

I think you are amazing and kind and generally an All round awesome human. ❤️

JingsMahBucket · 20/04/2025 14:46

@LePetitMaman too right.

JingsMahBucket · 20/04/2025 14:42

@3LemonsAndLime I read your threads when they first started and never commented. This latest update had me repeatedly saying, “This guy is such a fucking stalker” under my breath. I wonder if there’s a way to start logging these occurrences with the police in order to establish a record.

Nonetheless, you are so much better off without someone who would treat you like this, repeatedly. It may feel hard right now being alone but you’re safer without this psycho directly involved in your life. Be safe and try to have a good day and a joyful life. You deserve it 💐

LePetitMaman · 20/04/2025 14:42

3LemonsAndLime · 20/04/2025 10:07

Several months on now (and many steps back from it!) I can now appreciate the farcical, funny side to it, but it has taken a while. I couldn’t have posted this back in Jan or Feb - it was all very raw. We are a very loving, normal family with no dramatics, so this has become a bit of a family joke. As in, my sister might show us a new throw pillow and say ‘the patterns a bit crazy, but I think I like it’ and then there will be a pause and my BIL or DF will say “well it’s crazy, but not fly-to-Bali/Whistler-crazy”. And my dear little nephew promised to marry me when he gets old enough, so there is that, I guess :)

But it was so genuinely surreal. Thank goodness we changed our holiday dates! I think it would have been incredibly difficult if we were there for the original 2 weeks. I’m sure there would have been some (fake) crisis that lost them their accomodation, and he would have lent on my very kind DF or DM to extend an invite of the accomodation ‘as family friends’…….I can see it all unfolding. It was very clever, actually, and really made the scales drop from my eyes as to him being after the money/lifestyle rather than me. Another slightly sore point for me, and one that will probably take longer to get over.

I think you need to get out of your head he was only with you for your lifestyle. As if you're nothing to want, unless you're paying.

From your posts your are funny, eloquent, have a wonderful family, extremely generous, intelligent, well travelled, interesting. And that's just from these posts.

Small wonder he was doing his best to cling on like a thing possesses when on top of all of that, you funded things for him and his children.

I think a lot of his desperation was ego. I think he'd misled people that a lot of what he and his children had, was down to him, when effectively it was all you. He looked like the big "I am" and let people think he was. Without you, he couldn't maintain that lie, and was desperate not to be exposed. Public schools are typically a lot more traditional in that the men tend to earn big, and can be quite competitive in that respect. It's quite a showy environment. The idea that he was going to be outed as both a liar and a bit of a financial parasite, particularly as a man in that social circle, wasn't an option for him.

I'm not surprised the kids have been pulled from the school. Partially because of fee affordability but also his embarrassment. I imagine the lunatic behaviour of gatecrashing your holiday and planning to obtain a room at the chalet was his all or nothing massive attempt to save having to come clean to everyone.

Thank god you're free of him now. You don't see that because he's made you feel a bit shit and question if it was all about only being with you for your money.

For what it's worth, I think you sound fucking splendid.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/04/2025 13:25

Oh wow, just reminded myself of the previous thread and then...this... brilliant that you changed the dates of the holiday, what an absolute lunatic!

Mrspatmoresapprentice · 20/04/2025 13:19

I am honestly speechless! I cannot believe he turned up WITH his dc and hadn’t even booked accommodation for them for the duration? The utter brass neck of the man is staggering. Enormous bullet dodged there op!

Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/04/2025 13:16

Oh wow, just reminded myself of the previous thread and then...this... brilliant that you changed the dates of the holiday, what an absolute lunatic!

Diarygirlqueen · 20/04/2025 13:15

I have to admit, I was of the opinion you should take it slowly and give him a second chance. How wrong I was!
You sound an intelligent and kind person. I wish you all the best for the future x

Whyherewego · 20/04/2025 13:13

Wow just read all this second thread, I recall the first well enough.

I think you had a lucky escape OP and whilst you may be lonely and I sympathise with that, at least you have a lovely family that has your back.
Best of luck OP

Aria999 · 20/04/2025 13:07

@3LemonsAndLime you sound awesome! I'm glad you have such a lovely family.

pikkumyy77 · 20/04/2025 13:04

3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 09:11

Thanks for the responses.

To answer questions, @sparepantsandtoothbrush I suppose the comments on the furniture and the vouchers were just loose ends from my previous thread that I thought I would include to tie up. I agree they don’t have anything to do with the question today and I could have left that out.

@FabulousPharmacyst I was happy to give the furniture away - as I said in my previous thread, I bought it specifically for the children, for their own rooms when they moved in (well, EOW). I have no need for it and would have been selling or giving it away anyway. I thought it was win-win - I got the furniture out of the house and the rooms back without the hassle of selling or months of the furniture sitting there making me feel terrible, and they go to keep nice furniture and bedding etc.

I guess with hindsight, I think I could have behaved better at the end. Perhaps by giving him money to re-establish himself or alternatively by making it clearer if we ever split he would be leaving the house I own and need money to finance accommodation/his life. Although I thought this was self explanatory for every person, and I’m not sure how I could have said it without sounding condescending or perhaps even like I was threatening to kick him out. But I accept some blame for this. I’m wondering had I done so, then he may have not been so money focused at the end. And if I am overlooking all his good qualities (hard to find) and just focusing on this.

I realise people are saying they may have thought of me as a cash cow, and I accept and see this. But I didn’t feel like that when we were together. Everything I gave or paid for was because I wanted too and was happy to do so. I’ve thought about it, and that isn’t taken advantage - when I want to pay it - is it? And I can’t not have the money I earn. And I wouldn’t want to sit back and only spend it on myself and not on the partner I had or his DC at appropriate times. As I said in my last thread, I’m not flashy about the money. I do a lot quietly to secure the financial position of family and quietly gift friends in low key ways and am happy to do so. I just didn’t like the idea that someone else had ideas for spending my money. But maybe I wasn’t fair, as he adjusted his spending to his new (lesser) outgoings.

I’m really not sure. But everyone on this thread so far is, which is telling, I suppose.

I think you are looking at thus the wrong way around—its not black or white as in “if you wanted to give then you were not being taken advantage of.”

You can want to give, and enjoy giving, while being manipulated or conned by someone who does not gave your best interests at heart. Your idea that you give freely is not the reality as the con man or seducer gives you something you want in return and can remove that thing as well (praise/sex/affection/contact).

This man gave you a lot that you enjoyed but as soon as you put down an inconvenient boundary he reacted horribly, manipulatively, and he encouraged his children and ex wife to pressure you for money—you continued to try to give monetary gifts and sentiments while they as a family continued to try to monetize the relationship.

Out of a chicken soup I can make a beet borscht but out of a beet borscht I can’t make a chicken soup. What that means is you can’t strip out money and need for money from this relationship now that it has been so badly commingled.

Daleksatemyshed · 20/04/2025 12:53

If anyone else had posted this I'd say no you're making it up, but having read your previous posts I half expected something like this. I'm sorry @3LemonsAndLime but at least your Ex finally made you angry enough to shut him down for good.
I presume the day you left he was trying to get you to pay for him to stay on at the accommodation since he'd clearly expected to stay there, free of charge as always.
I know you're lonely but there are other much better men out there and I very much hope you'll find one. Next time please get your wonderful sister to take a long, hard look st the new man, she says little but she obviously sees and understands a great deal

DorothywiththeRedShoes · 20/04/2025 12:50

I have just read both your threads and am so shocked with your update.

I must admit at the beginning I did feel slightly sorry for him but he really did show his true colours!
In a way at least you now have some closure and can see that you did the right thing.

You sound like an amazing person, I'm sorry you are lonely but I have to say I am married and I feel incredibly lonely. You are better being alone than with this man and his ungrateful children.

Good luck @3LemonsAndLime x

IslandsAround · 20/04/2025 11:26

Dear @3LemonsAndLime I’ve read all the posts and your recent update made my jaw drop.

You come across as an incredibly assured and kind woman and the behaviour you experienced from Ex-DP is next level crazy it would be beyond your imagining. I also can’t imagine someone doing that - thank heavens your family were there too.

Kids now having left the school etc - likely meant he was traveling hopefully- expecting to get back together before taking responsibility for his own financial situation. Your sister is a wise person.

It is hard to be lonely for now, but better than Ex-DP as an alternative. Keep open and being yourself. You’re wonderful.

sl0th · 20/04/2025 11:10

Oh my goodness, OP! Reading through the thread, as soon as I saw he'd told people he was still holidaying at Christmas, I had a feeling that might be the stunt he pulled. Thank goodness you had changed the dates!

He might just be one of the cheekiest CFs I've ever read about on here!

S0j0urn4r · 20/04/2025 11:06

Just to add re feeling lonely. Embrace this time to do as you please without having to compromise for anyone. Enjoy yourself.
I found myself alone after 20 years of marriage. It was scary initially. But then I decided to embrace it and built a great life for myself. Eventually I met someone and we've been together 8 years. He's amazing and we're very happy. But I have great memories of being alone, too. It isn't second best to being with someone it's just a different phase of life.

Duh · 20/04/2025 10:55

Wow, thanks for updating OP. The brass neck of the guy.

Candles88 · 20/04/2025 10:22

I have just read both posts OP, you sound like a wonderful, kind person, and thank goodness for your family! They sound like a bunch of heroes.

I must admit my jaw dropped when you updated about the holiday. He sounds absolutely insane, and his poor children.. I am not suprised there were issues with their behaviour given the example he sets and the lack of stability he has given them.

I hope your next update is that you either meet someone who deserves you, or have some wonderful luck in another way.

Tameys · 20/04/2025 10:13

I think the fact you moved dates was your gut knowing what was what about him, before you were fully able to admit it.

The nosey bat in me would love to know how he sorted it out at that time of year.

He spectacularly underestimated you.
It was many months after you split and he still thought it a viable plan.

Talk about delusional.