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Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:53

@Scotland96

Immigrants contribute significantly to the UK economy in a number of ways, including:

Economic output
According to the Office for National Statistics, migrants contribute around £83 billion to the UK's economic output annually.

Tax and national insurance
In 2018-19, EEA and Swiss nationals paid £22.4 billion more in tax and national insurance than they received in benefits, while non-EEA nationals paid £20 billion more.

Employment
Migrants are employed in a variety of sectors, including healthcare, STEM industries, and finance. In the first quarter of 2024, 6.8 million foreign-born people were employed in the UK, making up over a fifth of the workforce.

Business ownership
Migrants are more likely to start businesses in the UK than UK-born individuals.

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:49

@Scotland96 you do realise most immigrants that are here especially the past two years have been employment immigrants. Almost 200% for Asian immigrants and 114% from Africans.

The government need to replace the workforce they have lost through Brexit.
Also there was a shortage of skilled Tech workers and also carers plus nurses and Doctors,

The government is taking the human (resources) from other countries. Highly educated and qualified people to replace lost skills. Compared to the boats, it’s absolutely nothing compared to employment immigration.

Hatfullofwillow · 26/10/2024 10:45

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So these illegal immigrants are working legally as carers but somehow not working and getting free handouts?

Scotland96 · 26/10/2024 10:41

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Hatfullofwillow · 26/10/2024 10:39

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They're not scared to say it, just incapable of either writing or speaking in coherent sentences.

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:39

It’s not good for you to have so much anger like this

Shakeoffyourchains · 26/10/2024 10:39

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So supporting a convicted thug, fraudster, abuser and a paedophile defender is the way to deal with migration in your mind?

Also lol at your last paragraph. Do you usually believe everything you read on social media? If so, you might want to spend just a little bit of time reading around the subject instead of making a complete fool of yourself for all too see.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 26/10/2024 10:38

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:35

No way is the person above real

Nope! Especially if they are saying their child is the only white British child in their nursery, yet username suggests they are in Scotland…. Hmm

Scotland96 · 26/10/2024 10:36

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:35

No way is the person above real

Very real I’ll have u know

try finding a different nursery for your 5 year old because she’s scared

AdviceNeeded2024 · 26/10/2024 10:35

SinnerBoy · 26/10/2024 10:16

AdviceNeeded2024 · Today 10:07

the police can’t just randomly stop people and demand to look at their phone for no reason if you see what I mean.

Under the updated Prevention of Terrorism Act, they have the power to demand it of anyone in transit through a port, or airport.

The Brazilian boyfriend of a Guardian journalist was stopped a few years ago. He was targeted, they knew he had files to embarrass the Government and some of it was legally confidential. He ended up giving it up.

But there has to be a suspicion. I was replying to the poster who asked previously whether if she was stopped for no reason and asked to hand over her phone whether she’d be charged under the terrorism act.

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 10:35

No way is the person above real

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Scotland96 · 26/10/2024 10:26

Simonjt · 26/10/2024 10:18

As a non-white person it doesn’t surprise me at all, there are significant number of incredibly thick racists.

So what is u are actually saying we support Tommy because some of us are white? No it doesn’t work like that not all immigrants etc are black the majority are white too.

Simonjt · 26/10/2024 10:18

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 09:19

I can’t believe the amount of people in support of Tommy wow

This country is not the same anymore

As a non-white person it doesn’t surprise me at all, there are significant number of incredibly thick racists.

Scotland96 · 26/10/2024 10:16

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SinnerBoy · 26/10/2024 10:16

AdviceNeeded2024 · Today 10:07

the police can’t just randomly stop people and demand to look at their phone for no reason if you see what I mean.

Under the updated Prevention of Terrorism Act, they have the power to demand it of anyone in transit through a port, or airport.

The Brazilian boyfriend of a Guardian journalist was stopped a few years ago. He was targeted, they knew he had files to embarrass the Government and some of it was legally confidential. He ended up giving it up.

Loub1987 · 26/10/2024 10:12

I have a theory that we all just ignored him he would go away. I feel the same about Trump. Wishful thinking really.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 26/10/2024 10:07

@NeverAgainNelly Sorry yes he’s charged with that but I believe he allegedly was stopped under the Terrorism Act in July at an airport or something and refused to give access to his phone, think it was to do with the riots, so there is a reason why they wanted to look, the police can’t just randomly stop people and demand to look at their phone for no reason if you see what I mean.

Hatfullofwillow · 26/10/2024 09:55

User135644 · 26/10/2024 08:35

I think what the airport thugs did had an impact in terms of the riots as well (which was only a few days before). People seeing them on the news sniveling and playing victim with their lawyer, then the video footage comes out of what they actually did.

Tommy Robinson certainly whipped things up, but he speaks for a lot of people.

He does their thinking for them too. You'd have to be pretty lazy in your thinking to swallow the old fascist playbook. Fortunately, he doesn't speak for most people, as evidenced by his supporters being consistently & significantly outnumbered every time they march.

Hatfullofwillow · 26/10/2024 09:50

I've never met a racist with a bad word to say about him. If you ignore the fraud, assault, incitement to hate and his foreign financial backers, along with his repugnant personality, he's just the same as any other rightwing knob.

He's probably after another crowd funded holiday in the sun paid for by his gullible supporters.

Daisy155 · 26/10/2024 09:19

I can’t believe the amount of people in support of Tommy wow

This country is not the same anymore

SallyWD · 26/10/2024 09:16

User135644 · 26/10/2024 09:06

The vast majority of people would condemn all the rioting we saw. Riots don't happen in a vacuum though.

No, but I believe that a lot of people are getting very angry based on misinformation that is being shared online and by the right wing press. I'm not saying there are no issues that need to be addressed. I'm all for open duscussion and scrutiny. However, people are running riot based on a load of misinformation and half truths.
For example, as I posted before we all hate Muslim grooming gangs but the vast majority of grooming gangs are white, the majority of pedophiles are white (according to a Home Office report). Yet we don't see the Daily Mail and Tommy Robinson campaigning against white grooming gangs. Why is that? If Tommy Robinson really cares about the nation's children, why doesn't he care about his mates being pedophiles?
We have to look carefully at the reasons why certain groups are being targeted.

User135644 · 26/10/2024 09:06

SallyWD · 26/10/2024 09:02

I'm sorry but it doesn't excuse the behaviour we saw. People may be pissed off with what happened at the airport but it doesn't excuse smashing up mosques, beating up random black and Asian people, ripping hijabs off women, setting fire to hotels, stopping non-white people driving down the street. People don't behave like this every time a white thug does something. Where were the riots when Sarah Everard got murdered, or when that man killed his ex girlfriend, her mother and sister with a crossbow, when baby P was tortured to death or when Lucy Letby killed severely babies etc?
People of colour can't be held to account every time a black or Asian person does something bad.

The vast majority of people would condemn all the rioting we saw. Riots don't happen in a vacuum though.

SallyWD · 26/10/2024 09:02

User135644 · 26/10/2024 08:35

I think what the airport thugs did had an impact in terms of the riots as well (which was only a few days before). People seeing them on the news sniveling and playing victim with their lawyer, then the video footage comes out of what they actually did.

Tommy Robinson certainly whipped things up, but he speaks for a lot of people.

I'm sorry but it doesn't excuse the behaviour we saw. People may be pissed off with what happened at the airport but it doesn't excuse smashing up mosques, beating up random black and Asian people, ripping hijabs off women, setting fire to hotels, stopping non-white people driving down the street. People don't behave like this every time a white thug does something. Where were the riots when Sarah Everard got murdered, or when that man killed his ex girlfriend, her mother and sister with a crossbow, when baby P was tortured to death or when Lucy Letby killed severely babies etc?
People of colour can't be held to account every time a black or Asian person does something bad.