King calls for creative ways to tackle inequality

I think the dispatches programme was delayed one week then again the next
Unusual .

None of this is new - Elizabeth Windsor got herself excluded from hundreds of laws and enriched her own family at the expense of the people
The Dutchy’s rip offs only came to light as a result of the Panama papers expose .
Look that up . The so called ‘queen’ had her riches invested abroad to enrich herself and avoid paying the tiny voluntary tax offering she’d had her arm twisted to pay.
How anyone supports this greedy feudal set up is beyond me

Id even accept Charles ( not William though) if he had no public money and paid all his taxes

I am just watching Dispatches. This article I linked (https://archive.ph/k2CGM) covers it on paper really well, but it's quite gobsmacking seeing it covered so extensively with commentary from everyone from Stephen Fry to Margaret Hodge and tenants, ordinary people. To see a public Affairs Committee stonewalled by the Keeper of the Purse for Duchy of C, just not answering questions.

I wonder if this programme for Channel4 was only agreed if it had a short term on the catch up service... it's ony available for 30 days.

All you need is Andrew to head up a child abuse charity, and you'd have a full house.

Oh I think they are well aware .
They count every penny .
It sheer hypocrisy is breathtaking ,
How much did the coronation cost us ? A couple of hundred million? Yes of course it’s a made up nonsense but part of the liturgy had the population handed over to his ‘care’
It’s all theatre .
Wave at the plebs from your tacky golden coach (except the plebs don’t turn up any more do they?) and hurry back to your palace to rip off the very taxpayer funded state services we all depend on

Yeah I think someone might want to sit Charles down and explain about how and why he is so rich.

Maybe he could watch a bit of C4 dispatches

The king wants creative ways to end inequality ?
How about you stop trying to claim ownership of lands stolen nearly 1000 years ago ?
When George handed over the crown estates centuries ago ( in return for the state rescuing him from bankruptcy) the Dutchies were overlooked as then they were mainly farm lands

Tine to take them back under state control .and stop this outrage .
If that isn’t creative enough Charles, no more state hand outs and pay your taxes !

@Ukisgaslit it's well worth a read but it's long! It has uncovered every plot of land owned by the Duchies. (which are called 'private fiefdoms' !)

The Duchy Files show the royals charge for the right to cross rivers; offload cargo onto the shore; run cables under their beaches; operate schools and charities; and even dig graves. They earn revenue from toll bridges, ferries, sewage pipes, churches, village halls, pubs, distilleries, gas pipelines, boat moorings, opencast and underground mines, car parks, rental homes and wind turbines

The detail on this, within this article is shocking.

I wish they’d all stfu.
Chazza wants to tackle inequality.
Camilla domestic abuse.
William apparently is going to cure homelessness.
Because of course they all have such vast first hand experience of these matters.
And all oblivious of how fucking entitled and hypocritical they sound.
The French had the right idea in the C18.

I haven’t read that article @BustingBaoBun but I will.

Im still shocked by the Dispatachea programme - and believe me I didn’t think my opinion of the Windsors could fall lower than it was .
Please watch it .
Even the most brain washed royalist must feel some anger at the revelations. I knew William was an empty suit mouthing platitudes for PR but now we see him claiming fmto care about homelessness while being a slum landlord !

William is charging the taxpayer 25 million to allow the government to use Dartmoor prison.

Charles is charging the NHS 11 million to use car parking space for ambulances . The ambulances were designed to help improve the response time to emergencies . Charles’ PR had the temerity to tweet about ‘being happy to have granted a warehouse to the NHS ‘ - but kept the bill they were charging quiet

These are public services ( NHS ) that the royals are charging rent to. So they only only take from the taxpayer in security costs / billions for their coronations and jubilees etc but they are charging our public services millions and millions in secret !

They do not own these Dutchys . 100 % of the revenue went to state before Elizabeth Windsor got it changed by Osborne .

The royals are taking over 100 000 000 annually from the people in their so called sovereign grant meanwhile they are secretly creaming off rent from charities ,schools and the nhs etc

Charles Is patron of Macmillan cancer and Marie curie cancer charities . Lots of pr there and brain dead royalists claiming he helps charity

He charges these charities rent ! So when you donate to charity some of that money is going directly to Charles and William .
So much rent in fact that both MacMillan and Marie Curie have had to leave the building .

Never mind the fact that William and. Charles do not pay corporation tax because they are ‘royal’

I would just ask anyone who is interested or concerned about inequality to spare the time to read this.
Yes, it's a long read but worth looking at

That's all

How can ANYONE think this is right?

https://archive.ph/k2CGM

I have archived this as it's behind a paywall

Well... indeed.... I have no idea @Ukisgaslit why on earth he was being paid £1million anyway. If his ex wife (I lump them together because even though they've been divorced for 30 years, they live together and no doubt their finances are intertwined)... if she can afford a £5M property in Mayfair, Andrew can't be that brassic.

I agree with you. No doubt he will still be receiving an allowance, it will just be coming from somewhere else. It just needs to be hidden from the useless yearly Royal Report which the public are privy to.

I would imagine the 'Charles is pushing Andrew out of the Windsor Royal Estate' headlines will ramp up. It always does when there's something to hold our noses about... like the Dispatches programme tonight.

Thanks for highlighting this programme.
Did anyone else notice the timing of the announcement that the king will stop Andrew’s £1000 000 payment ?
Carefully timed to distract from the Dispatches programme no doubt . The PR is so clumsy .

So a few related questions :
why was Andrew being paid £1000000 a year in the first place ?

Why stop it now after years of saying they are ‘stopping it’ but failing to . Is it really being stopped or is it the usual out of one pocket into another that the Windsors use as wheeze to fool the sheep ?

I was about to ask if this million was public money . Silly question . It’s ALL public money All of it - even their so called ‘privately owned’ Balmoral and Sandringham were paid for by the public . Victoria claimed she was bankrupt and took the begging bowl to parliament

But guess what - over one hundred years ago Victoria read the room and took a reduced annual payment from the population, she opened the accounts on the Duchys and paid income tax on them! She also - get this Charles- she contributed to the cost of her jubilee

We now know of some of the Royal corruption ( sexual abusers Mountbatten and Andrew) financial greed and bags of cash , manipulation and secret deals with the media etc
And yet the Windsors are happily pocketing an extra 45 million annually from he crippled Uk economy .
No shame

Remember that Price William is choosing to keep his finances private. It's not surprising
probably because it doesn't fit in with the just like you image the Wales's love to portray.

I suspect William has learnt from his granny and great granny's knee about entitlement but not much about ' service' even tbough that means different things to the Royals. How can he still be learning? Again, it hardly a major shock that his 90+ year old grandmother died and he was going to be PoW. Why was he not being prepared for it? Could he just not be bothered? Never mind managing the Duchy. He couldn't even be bothered to learn a bit of Welsh, when he lived in Wales and was on course to be PoW. He started learning when he became PoW, as if it wasn't a given that would be his title. He is getting away with a lot because of his sick wife and because Harry is the current Royal whipping boy.

It's a good thing (for him) that he is not subject to a probationary period. In any normal job he would probably be on a performance improvement plan.

The civil list at least allowed for some parliamentary debate . Elizabeth hated that and devoted her efforts to getting the civil list stopped and replace by the sovereign grant . Osborne and Cameron were happy to oblige

Osborne and Cameron did us a HUGE disservice and then John Major passing a bill that says the sovereign Grant could never go down, only up. So even during covid they received the same amount of money for doing even less than they do now. If that is possible.

Then of course Elizabeth applied for the emergency heating covid assistance for the Palaces. Until she was told that perhaps it wasn't a wise move as this was an extreme poverty handout

You couldn't make it up

Sorry, hadnt read your post, I'm repeating you!

Remember that Price William is choosing to keep his finances private. It's not surprising.

Yes. And let's remember that whilst Charles agreed to pay voluntary tax on his Duchy Cornwall income and disclose how much to us (below what the general public would pay, I hasten to add)....William has REFUSED to disclose how much he has paid. Could be £4.50 for all we know!

Oh the irony!

The Windsors have always been greedy and DGAF about their ‘subjects’ .
They continue to get away with so much but more and more people are keeping notes .

And as the UK fails and more people suffer , the Windsors plonk on their ugly crowns and scoop up half a billion a year for mumbling about ‘learning about homelessness’ but cut their own income ? Don’t be ridiculous.

Yes this is true . Charles did make the ( admittedly doctored / limited ) duchy of Cornwall accounts available

Wiliam declined to do so when he was handed them
It was ‘ too early ‘ apparently .
He’s ‘still learning’ isnt that his general excuse for everything ?

@Ukisgaslit Good post. I couldn't agree more. I recently mentioned on one of the inheritance tax threads about the Queen deciding she didn't want her private estate that she left to King Charles to be subject to inheritance tax something that neither Charles or William have addressed and so the law was changed. God knows how much extra money that meant that King Charles inherited. That was money that should have come to country.

It's disgusting that Prince William can be so greedy, ignorant and (literally entitled) that he thinks it's ok to have this multimillion (more?.) unique tax relief whilst thinking he can lecture everyone on homelessness. It is sickening.

Remember that Price William is choosing to keep his finances private. It's not surprising.

The dismissive comments ( thankfully very small in number) here re the royals ballooning wealth are really gobsmacking . Oh it’s only 20 million here and there - small change right ?

The civil list at least allowed for some parliamentary debate . Elizabeth hated that and devoted her efforts to getting the civil list stopped and replace by the sovereign grant . Osborne and Cameron were happy to oblige .

This sovereign grant has ballooned since and happily for the Windsors without so much as a minute of debate . All done behind closed doors - as per their usual modus operandi .

Now does the money Charles takes from the taxpayer increase by 45 million or 45 % this year ? Oh what am I saying! What’s 45 million ! It’s nothing !

There are so many Byzantine sources of wealth that the royals access - the House of Commons have frequently commented that no, the so called accounts are not transparent
We know the Windsors describe the Duchys as public when it is financially advantageous for them to do so .

Oh and remember Elizabeth paying off Andrew’s accuser ? Duchy money . And that’s none of your business ! Your job is to pay your tax and keep inflating the royals coffers

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster