Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

King calls for creative ways to tackle inequality

281 replies

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 06:37

AIBU to think this displays a breathtaking lack of self-awareness from one of the richest men in the world?

Well, how about you make a start with that Charles?!

OP posts:
5128gap · 25/10/2024 09:10

What did he suggest? He's the guy earning the big bucks. I await the unique, insightful and superior contribution from him that will creatively resolve the issue thus demonstrating what we keep him for.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 25/10/2024 09:05

taxguru · 25/10/2024 08:18

Charles and a tiny number of other "slebs" were spot on back in the 70s when they started talking about the environmental problems, pollution, climate change, etc. They were mocked back then, but have now been proved to have been right.

But they were clearly only interested at a "Ooh, fancy that!" level - they obviously don't believe in it and aren't concerned enough about it to actually restrict their own lifestyles in any kind of meaningful way.

Same as Biden - having a fleet of his own cars FLOWN over to a CLIMATE conference, on a continent where we already have plenty of cars that would have been available for hire.

It's like turning up at a food bank in a new Ferrari that you bought yesterday and bawling about just however will you manage to feed and clothe your kids?

ChocNice · 25/10/2024 09:05

This thread isn’t about solving inequality. The RF giving away their jewels doesn’t even begin to address inequality. Think so much bigger. Everyone RF included needs to take this seriously. So I’m fine with the RF questioning publicly about inequality. Everyone should. For example, climate change is a massive driver of inequality. What are we doing about that?

anxioussister · 25/10/2024 09:03

Bin universal credit and increase the minimum wage - it is lunatic that the government / tax payer is subsidising businesses paying people too little to live on.

if a business can’t afford to pay its staff a reasonable living wage (one that they can live on without top ups) then it can’t afford to function.

There would be a short term market panic - but long term it would redistribute the tax burden onto corporations and away from individuals.

and people could earn actual livable money for their work. Which is repeatedly demonstrated to be better for heath / self esteem / family social + educational outcomes

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 09:02

Interestingly, nearly 30% of voters think I am being unreasonable. I’d love to hear why?

OP posts:
MayaPinion · 25/10/2024 08:55

He could sell one of his castles for a start.

Or, if he doesn't own them, he could move to a more modest council house and let the state sell them off or use them for social housing.

HowardTJMoon · 25/10/2024 08:44

taxguru · 25/10/2024 08:18

Charles and a tiny number of other "slebs" were spot on back in the 70s when they started talking about the environmental problems, pollution, climate change, etc. They were mocked back then, but have now been proved to have been right.

He was also a big proponent of homeopathy and other woo nonsense. Even a thick stopped clock is right twice a day.

Lentilweaver · 25/10/2024 08:37

I remember Boris Johnson yapping on about how African and Indian women had 8 children. Then he had 8 children. Each one with about 50 times the carbon footprint of an African or Indian child.

MoodEnhancer · 25/10/2024 08:37

I have a creative solution: strip the royals of their wealth and status.

Use their properties to house people, and build lots of homes on their massive tracts of land.

Use their immense unearned wealth and income (and the savings from our ongoing support of them) to put into things like sure start centres and schools, as well as mental health support. These are all things which would help create a more equal society.

I don’t want to be wholly unfair to them and make them start from scratch, so let’s make sure we set them up in a 3 bed semi somewhere. They’ll need to earn money, so maybe they can sign up for a relativity TV show which follows them trying to build a life like everyone else has? Bet that’d be a good earner for them. Or they can just get normal jobs and work out how to make ends meet like the rest of us?

Creative enough, Charlie??

Thisbastardcomputer · 25/10/2024 08:35

Nesbi · 25/10/2024 06:42

We could make everyone royal, and we’d all have to be called Ma’am, or Sir. And the RAF would do a flyover for all our birthdays

Brilliant

Seasmoke · 25/10/2024 08:35

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 08:29

And yet the RF owns rather a lot of moorland in Scotland, and it is managed as a carbon source not a carbon sink because shooting the ‘wild’life is more important

The Late Queen also said a similar thing about people 'saying not doing'; on climate change when she had lobbied to get an exemption for herself for Scottish Environmental protection legislation (and got it) Of course the press forelock tugged about how straight talking she was.

Seasmoke · 25/10/2024 08:32

Twixfixing · 25/10/2024 07:11

Maybe Charles could give up the fleet of range rovers? A few houses? William & Kate could holiday less, lots of options.

Charles cant even get his own family to cut their carbon footprint or their wealth by cutting down the size of the Royal Family and telling William he cant fly around in a helicopter all the time, or have 4 houses, or say his grandchildren shouldn't have titles or get his brother to leave his 30 bedroom house etc.

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 08:29

taxguru · 25/10/2024 08:18

Charles and a tiny number of other "slebs" were spot on back in the 70s when they started talking about the environmental problems, pollution, climate change, etc. They were mocked back then, but have now been proved to have been right.

And yet the RF owns rather a lot of moorland in Scotland, and it is managed as a carbon source not a carbon sink because shooting the ‘wild’life is more important

OP posts:
Seasmoke · 25/10/2024 08:26

Marchitectmummy · 25/10/2024 07:29

Why target the Catholic Church and not any of the other wealthy religions?

Exactly. How do you think the Royals are so staggeringly rich? Mainly from Empire, but also because they took some of the vast wealth of the Catholic church in England including properties for themselves.

Lentilweaver · 25/10/2024 08:24

taxguru · 25/10/2024 08:18

Charles and a tiny number of other "slebs" were spot on back in the 70s when they started talking about the environmental problems, pollution, climate change, etc. They were mocked back then, but have now been proved to have been right.

I don't have a car.
I have never eaten meat.
I only have two children who have quite small carbon footprints as they don't use cars either.
I dont have multiple homes or fly about recklessly in helicopters.
I don't think I have anything to learn from the royals, sorry.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 25/10/2024 08:20

Theunamedcat · 25/10/2024 07:41

According to the Sunday Times he isnt the richest he is the 258th richest so maybe bitch about the other 258 not sharing the wealth?

I think a lot of the vast riches that he and his family exclusively enjoy may not technically belong to him - so the raw data will be very much skewed.

I actually have a lot more respect for extremely wealthy people who just accept it and get on with enjoying it, without trying to justify or lecture ordinary people about 'doing their bit'.

I also hold the same contempt for Charles' own father and scientist James Lovelock, who both spent decades banging on about the dangers of overpopulation - yet each was the father of 4 children.

Ordinary folk who have 4 kids but also don't feel the need to doomsay and complain about others who also choose to have big families? No issue at all.

taxguru · 25/10/2024 08:18

Lentilweaver · 25/10/2024 07:31

It will be a cold day in hell before I ever listen to the royals on any subject.

Charles and a tiny number of other "slebs" were spot on back in the 70s when they started talking about the environmental problems, pollution, climate change, etc. They were mocked back then, but have now been proved to have been right.

HeadacheEarthquake · 25/10/2024 08:11

Cynic17 · 25/10/2024 07:24

Some of the responses here are so breathtakingly juvenile....

Alright Camilla?

KingOfPoundbury · 25/10/2024 07:59

I only meant 'you lot', outside the castle walls.

000EverybodyLovesTheSunshine000 · 25/10/2024 07:59

Coming from the pinnacle of inequality himself 👍

category12 · 25/10/2024 07:55

Maybe I'm being unfair- did he start his speech with

"I know it's ludicrous that I, a man with huge wealth and an exalted position in life given to me purely by accident of birth and no actual merit of my own, get to speak down to you, but hear me out .. "

ssd · 25/10/2024 07:45

Maybe Charles could open up many of his luxurious houses and let the homeless people i pass every morning going to work, sleep in them??

AlertCat · 25/10/2024 07:45

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 06:37

AIBU to think this displays a breathtaking lack of self-awareness from one of the richest men in the world?

Well, how about you make a start with that Charles?!

Have you read Queen Camilla by the late lamented Sue Townsend? It’s hilarious 😂

category12 · 25/10/2024 07:43

Theunamedcat · 25/10/2024 07:41

According to the Sunday Times he isnt the richest he is the 258th richest so maybe bitch about the other 258 not sharing the wealth?

Happy to.

Especially the ones expounding about inequality on a huge platform.

StandardBox · 25/10/2024 07:42

DustyLee123 · 25/10/2024 06:40

I’d start with getting the Catholic Church to sell its gold and land.

Alright Henry VIII, give it a rest.

Who is it going to sell it to? That’s right, wealthy people - thereby having zero impact on wealth inequality.