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King calls for creative ways to tackle inequality

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AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 06:37

AIBU to think this displays a breathtaking lack of self-awareness from one of the richest men in the world?

Well, how about you make a start with that Charles?!

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BustingBaoBun · 04/11/2024 09:31

Talking about Charles calling for inequality, I have (for my sins) just listened to Angela Levin's defence of Charles and William in the light of the Dispatches programme.

"Charles is not a greedy man, he has his clothes sewn up if there's a hole in them"

Right.....

I daresay the tailor or seamstress gets quite well paid too. 🙄 Or are we supposed to picture Camilla darning his socks?

BustingBaoBun · 04/11/2024 09:31

Talking about Charles calling for inequality, I have (for my sins) just listened to Angela Levin's defence of Charles and William in the light of the Dispatches programme.

"Charles is not a greedy man, he has his clothes sewn up if there's a hole in them"

Right.....

HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 09:25

Marchitectmummy · 03/11/2024 19:26

Just the Christians or do you fancy taking from any of the religions who are far wealthier?

Shall we stick to Christianity for the time being as that's the God the Royal Family want us to believe has anointed them better than us all?

AshLeaf · 03/11/2024 20:43

Got it now, thank you

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AshLeaf · 03/11/2024 20:36

Well done for archiving the article Busting, I’m having a bit of trouble getting the programme to play on the C4 website - have other people been able to access it ok?

I was fine with it... but watched it on TV on All4, channel 4's catch up thingy

AshLeaf · 03/11/2024 20:36

Well done for archiving the article Busting, I’m having a bit of trouble getting the programme to play on the C4 website - have other people been able to access it ok?

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Marchitectmummy · 03/11/2024 19:26

Arwinsdanceshoes555 · 25/10/2024 10:31

I’d have a look at the Church of England and its direct involvement in chattel slavery. All the papers are viewable at Lambeth Palace.

Just the Christians or do you fancy taking from any of the religions who are far wealthier?

Marchitectmummy · 03/11/2024 19:23

HelterSkelter224 · 25/10/2024 09:44

Well yes agreed but also the Royal family given it's Charles looking for ways to tackle inequality? 🤔

OK and the other religions that are wealthy? Do you want money from them too or just the Catholics?

AshLeaf · 03/11/2024 16:51

JudgeJ · 03/11/2024 15:47

Most are very predictable, as I'm sure you wanted!

If you’ve read the thread, it seems to have deepened from a bit of lighthearted banter about our King’s lack of self-awareness, to an understanding that his majesties are in fact, very self-aware, and very keen that the general public should be kept very much not aware of their finances/tax breaks/legislative opt-outs.

I never expected this - my eyes have been opened!

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JudgeJ · 03/11/2024 15:47

AshLeaf · 25/10/2024 07:06

Loving these responses 😆

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Most are very predictable, as I'm sure you wanted!

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 15:45

Totally agree. This detail in the Dispatches doc and relevant articles took years to uncover. Imagine what we don't know about.

Livingtothefull · 03/11/2024 15:43

I haven't had much respect for the Royals for some time now; but after the latest revelations I can say that my view of them is in the toilet.

The future king has been outed as a slumlord. What do monarchists make of that? I think one of the worst things about this documentary was the fact that the tenants had to be quoted anonymously and by actors....they were too scared of reprisals to go public. And this from a self styled champion of the homeless.

It also emerged that they are taking money via rents from charities which they are patrons of, and which we contribute to. It gives a whole new meaning to the word 'patron' doesn't it?

And this is all just what we now know....God knows what else they have managed to keep still covered up.

Arwinsdanceshoes555 · 03/11/2024 13:48

Livingtothefull · 03/11/2024 12:30

The frankly sinister media hate campaign against Harry and (especially) Meghan is a blatant distraction from the scandalous situation of the current Royals. It is as though they haven't noticed that H&M left the UK years ago and don't cost the public anything.

The RF can't even keep their own members together...Charles has fallen out with half of his own family and we are supposed to not notice that or even think it odd. So it must of course be H&M's fault.

I think they wanted H&M gone because they outshone the ones left behind.

Compare & contrast Meghan speaking fluent Spanish in Colombia with William stumbling over French and unable to speak Welsh....despite knowing all his life that he would be Prince of Wales. And despite him having the best education money could buy (paid for by us of course).

I agree the campaign against M and H is sinister. And I say that without hyperbole!

It’s like someone in the heart of the establishment in a back room of the Admiralty or somewhere, has pressed a big black button marked “destroy” 😃

Jokes aside, H and M haven’t helped themselves perhaps in all situations, but the more I observe, the more I feel that Harry’s upset about being used as “distraction” fodder is well founded!

Livingtothefull · 03/11/2024 12:30

Arwinsdanceshoes555 · 03/11/2024 12:11

Please keep posting!

I had forgotten about the Panama Papers!

Harry and Meghan are a very useful distraction from what is actually going on!

The frankly sinister media hate campaign against Harry and (especially) Meghan is a blatant distraction from the scandalous situation of the current Royals. It is as though they haven't noticed that H&M left the UK years ago and don't cost the public anything.

The RF can't even keep their own members together...Charles has fallen out with half of his own family and we are supposed to not notice that or even think it odd. So it must of course be H&M's fault.

I think they wanted H&M gone because they outshone the ones left behind.

Compare & contrast Meghan speaking fluent Spanish in Colombia with William stumbling over French and unable to speak Welsh....despite knowing all his life that he would be Prince of Wales. And despite him having the best education money could buy (paid for by us of course).

Livingtothefull · 03/11/2024 12:21

If the King and the RF really cared about inequality they would have at least done the following to demonstrate it:

  • Provided complete transparency about royal finances years ago;
  • Paid all the taxes that would be due to them, which would in turn have contributed to public services;
  • Foregone (or at least drastically reduced) the coronation, on the basis that a lavish event to glorify one person was utterly inappropriate during a cost of living crisis following a major epidemic;
  • Used their public roles to support good causes, and be seen to have fought tirelessly for years against inequality. This is a reason why William has no credibility; despite all his privilege he has reached his 40s without any major achievement to his name. We all know that he couldn't care less about the underprivileged - but he does care very much about looking good. Actions speak louder than words I'm afraid.
Arwinsdanceshoes555 · 03/11/2024 12:11

Ukisgaslit · 03/11/2024 11:03

I’m sorry to keep posting so much but I have one last point .

I remember Elizabeth Windsor being implicated in the Panama papers expose and I remember Margaret Hodge ( I think) asking questions in the commons . The Dutchys activities were mentioned then .
This was years ago ! Maybe 10 years ago . Why did it take so long for this to be looked at properly ?
I want to thank Dispatches for this work .
i bet it was uphill all the way
The royals obstruct every attempt to get answers while filling their pockets .

Please keep posting!

I had forgotten about the Panama Papers!

Harry and Meghan are a very useful distraction from what is actually going on!

SighTime · 03/11/2024 12:06

@Ukisgaslit I love your posts. I feel like we would get on. I'm not usually someone that feels strongly about things but I've always found the love for the Royal Family baffling.
I love English history and find it as rich and fascinating as anyone but don't understand why so many people are so accepting of an 'institution' that is so outdated and ridiculous.

JasperTheDoll · 03/11/2024 11:41

DustyLee123 · 25/10/2024 06:40

I’d start with getting the Catholic Church to sell its gold and land.

Not sure how you think that would end inequality as any proceeds from sales would belong to the Catholic Church?

Livingtothefull · 03/11/2024 11:34

I think they are fully aware of how they got to be & remain so rich.....judging by how they fight to keep their finances opaque and obstruct every effort to obtain more clarity.

They refuse to pay any taxes and then engage in fronting projects like William's 'I will end homelessness' campaign. There is nothing in it, it is all just a PR exercise to make him look good while others are doing the real work. Charities like Shelter & Centrepoint have been fighting homelessness for years; if William wanted to he could just show support for these, rather than putting the spotlight on himself.

Prince William has the nerve to pontificate that “everyone having a right to a safe and stable home” whilst making money on what are essentially slum dwellings. And remember that this is while a £369 million renovation of Buckingham Palace is ongoing courtesy of the taxpayer.

I agree that everyone should watch the documentary and familiarise themselves with the issues. The RF have no credibility at all; their greed, hypocrisy and arrogance know no bounds. How anyone can continue to support this setup is beyond me.

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 11:14

Ukisgaslit · 03/11/2024 11:03

I’m sorry to keep posting so much but I have one last point .

I remember Elizabeth Windsor being implicated in the Panama papers expose and I remember Margaret Hodge ( I think) asking questions in the commons . The Dutchys activities were mentioned then .
This was years ago ! Maybe 10 years ago . Why did it take so long for this to be looked at properly ?
I want to thank Dispatches for this work .
i bet it was uphill all the way
The royals obstruct every attempt to get answers while filling their pockets .

Well... you ought to see the Keeper of the Purse for one of the Duchies... literally stonewalling a Public Affairs Committee. Not answering questions, calling the Duchies 'private estates' , more or less saying it was none of our business.

AshLeaf · 03/11/2024 11:07

Well, this has turned out to be a more interesting and illuminating thread than I’d imagined! Thankyou everyone for your contributions, especially Busting and UKisgaslit and anyone else who has highlighted the despatches program and the related article. Everyone should be fully aware of this stuff

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Ukisgaslit · 03/11/2024 11:03

I’m sorry to keep posting so much but I have one last point .

I remember Elizabeth Windsor being implicated in the Panama papers expose and I remember Margaret Hodge ( I think) asking questions in the commons . The Dutchys activities were mentioned then .
This was years ago ! Maybe 10 years ago . Why did it take so long for this to be looked at properly ?
I want to thank Dispatches for this work .
i bet it was uphill all the way
The royals obstruct every attempt to get answers while filling their pockets .

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 11:00

Watching the programme, the bit from 19 mins onwards is shocking. It really shows up the eco credentials of William and Charles. It even highlights Earthshot and William's words as hypocrisy.

All I know is... William and Charles will hate this programme. It is lifting the curtain on what goes on. Only a bit, but it's a start....