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God I said something awful on purpose to my grandfather

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DenimTurtle · 24/10/2024 18:30

My mum left me in the care of grandparents as a a very young child. My grandparents effectively raised me.

My childhood was awful. Mostly because of my grandfather who was extremely physically abusive - hair pulling, throwing objects, spitting on me to name a few examples. He would make me sleep on the floor as a punishment also. He was very introverted around other adults and I think tried to regain a sense of empowerment by abusing me. The man could just not experience any discomfort without his eyes popping out his head and his whole body puffing up. He was a monster.

Anyway, I left the country as soon as I could.

I returned recently and at the request of my grandmother went to see my grandfather at the retirement home he know lives.

He leads a sad life. Sitting in a chair all day and watching tv.

When I saw him he started getting angry over something minuscule. He started the whole routine of his face going red and I just said “I’ve had enough of this, thank God you’ll probably be dead the next time I’m in England. I can’t stand you”. I touched on how pathetic he and his life was.

Trust me I am a nice person. I donate around £300 each month to charity. I give neighbours kids’ a lift when I can. I just snapped.

Just needed to get off my chest.

OP posts:
ItsTheGAGGGGGGGGG · 24/10/2024 21:35

GOOD. Now never see him again

sprigatito · 24/10/2024 21:35

Anyone smell socks?

diptiqur · 24/10/2024 21:34

What does giving to charity and giving lifts to children have anything to do with anything?

Apart from you trying to brag .. odd post.

TENSsion · 24/10/2024 21:31

He had it coming. Long over due

Ambienteamber · 24/10/2024 21:30

Good for you. I'm glad he cried.
Not many people get together the guts to make their abusers cry.
Least he can do considering all he did.
Don't go and see him again. He's got the sad boring empty loveless end of life he deserves. Just leave him to it.

JassyRadlett · 24/10/2024 21:30

If you'd shown an ounce of human compassion for the OP before gleefully condemning her, people wouldn't have told you to just stop. Your inability to see that is quite odd.

Very interesting you chose to play karma for this OP, rather than the really quite different philosophy of "an eye for an eye, tbh you let him off lightly."

To be honest, it feels like OP had a reaction that was entirely based in her own abuse and trauma, and neither karmic energy nor earthly retribution have a single thing to do with it. I hope in time it gives her a sense of closing this chapter and her relationship with him. And I wish her nothing but peace from this monster from here on in.

LostTheMarble · 24/10/2024 21:29

Mebebecat · 24/10/2024 21:17

Wow that's bad OP. Being abused doesn't mean you have to go on to abuse. Some people manage not to. You chose to do this but presumably this is not the sort of person you want to be. I'm not going to sanction elder abuse under any circumstances. Don't visit him again. And do whatever it takes to deal with your likely very justified feelings without acting on them

Telling a fuckwit they’re a fuckwit who will not be missed after their final breath isn’t elder abuse. There’s not a special age you turn where all your evil deeds are forgiven without second thought.

JohnSt1 · 24/10/2024 21:26

You showed him that he no longer has the power to abuse you.

FoxWedding · 24/10/2024 21:23

I can’t understand people who feel pity for horrible old men just because they’re old. They’re still the same horrible men they always were, only difference is time has caught up with them.

SwingTheMonkey · 24/10/2024 21:19

Mebebecat · 24/10/2024 21:17

Wow that's bad OP. Being abused doesn't mean you have to go on to abuse. Some people manage not to. You chose to do this but presumably this is not the sort of person you want to be. I'm not going to sanction elder abuse under any circumstances. Don't visit him again. And do whatever it takes to deal with your likely very justified feelings without acting on them

This is not elder abuse ffs.

LunaTheCat · 24/10/2024 21:19

Well done you! Take your power!
I am so sorry about the abuse over many years from this man.
you sound amazing!

SwingTheMonkey · 24/10/2024 21:17

@Tink3rbell30 and @BlitheSpirits What in the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Even if you disagreed with what op did, you can surely see that this person is a victim of serious childhood abuse and is suffering. What part of you thought your nasty input was necessary? Surely you could have scrolled past, knowing that what you intended to say would make a hurt person feel worse. ‘Just because I can’ is not a good enough reason for causing hurt to someone with your words.

Mebebecat · 24/10/2024 21:17

Wow that's bad OP. Being abused doesn't mean you have to go on to abuse. Some people manage not to. You chose to do this but presumably this is not the sort of person you want to be. I'm not going to sanction elder abuse under any circumstances. Don't visit him again. And do whatever it takes to deal with your likely very justified feelings without acting on them

Tink3rbell30 · 24/10/2024 21:15

JassyRadlett · 24/10/2024 21:11

Pointing out that you're talking arrant nonsense on everything from karma definitely exisiting to the apparent equivalence of narcisstic traits and psychosis isn't "policing". It's pointing out your nonsense.

TBH I think it was the brave martyr/crusader post that brought most of the comments.

I hardly do advanced searches but I was curious to see whether you do actually believe in karma or whether it was just a good opportunity to kick a person in distress. Turns out you're up for an eye for an eye and revenge when it suits the narrative.

People were trying to police and tell me to stop commenting 🤦‍♀️ yes I've already said I believe in karma and yes I believe in eye for an eye, I think I commented that about the Y.R.

Nikitaspearlearring · 24/10/2024 21:14

Can people please stop quoting Tinkerbell because it is only encouraging her and making half the thread about her.

OP, you were goaded. You stood up for that little girl. He can handle it. Please forgive yourself, and forget it.

AngryLikeHades · 24/10/2024 21:14

Do not blame yourself or question your worth, this man had it coming.
I had a similar experience with my mother and your grandad has done well to get away with you only saying that.
He was a massive prick to repeatedly intimidate and degrade a child. What a coward.

Sneezeless · 24/10/2024 21:13

Don't feel bad, it seems like you needed it. Slightly OT but in a lot cases of elder abuse the motive is revenge.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 24/10/2024 21:11

There are some formerly abusive old people in my family but I've started seeing the vulnerability of the flesh in them and wouldn't want to hurt what they've become just because I have the power now and they don't.

I'm sorry OP, sorry you were put under stress, it's understandable you lashed out and spoke up, maybe you need positive healing, one good memory of unnecessary and slightly mad generosity to draw a line under it all and be the bigger person.

JassyRadlett · 24/10/2024 21:11

Tink3rbell30 · 24/10/2024 20:56

Which is fine but people are trying to police the post 🤦‍♀️ they either want to keep replying to my comments or they don't.

Pointing out that you're talking arrant nonsense on everything from karma definitely exisiting to the apparent equivalence of narcisstic traits and psychosis isn't "policing". It's pointing out your nonsense.

TBH I think it was the brave martyr/crusader post that brought most of the comments.

I hardly do advanced searches but I was curious to see whether you do actually believe in karma or whether it was just a good opportunity to kick a person in distress. Turns out you're up for an eye for an eye and revenge when it suits the narrative.

Tink3rbell30 · 24/10/2024 21:10

EightChalk · 24/10/2024 21:08

No. Posting something really objectionable and callous to a victim of abuse on an emotional thread and then being all wide-eyed innocent about "but people just keep replying to me!" instead of going away is very transparent. You are not here in good faith, and it's very obvious.

They do though? If they stopped then I couldn't reply any further really. OP doesn't have to agree with my opinion either.

Supperlite · 24/10/2024 21:09

DenimTurtle · 24/10/2024 18:57

Thank you. And thanks to everyone sharing comforting words.

I thought I would get a bollocking. I’m trying to remind myself this man often made me cry to the point of being sick and hyperventilating.

I just feel conflicted when I remember the good times (however few they were). He did show me some kindness.

My father was abusive. When I had my DC, I suddenly understood very very clearly how vile and cruel he was to treat me in that way. I wouldn’t never, NEVER treat my DC even half as bad as he treated me.

I think we can get stuck in the perspective of being the frightened child, and so these moments of bravery feel like you’re disobeying. But you aren’t. Really. You aren’t. It sounds like you told him some home truths, that’s all.

You are able to re-parent yourself now to show yourself the kindness you should have been shown as a child.

Gillbil · 24/10/2024 21:09

Blueuggboots · 24/10/2024 18:35

You are allowed to be rude to your abuser. You are allowed to tell him how you feel.

You did nothing wrong.

This👆
100% Agreed.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 24/10/2024 21:09

Being old and dependent on carers who may not be kind changes things. It's understandable you wanted to say your say, but it reignited an abusive dynamic. Can you grit your teeth and send him a card and flowers or cologne -- something he can 'show off' to the other service users, without you having to be present or involved. How much does he even remember or is he old enough to be turning babylike? Life is horrible enough sometimes not to heap hurt on hurt. Sounds like neither of you was left feeling good? And no kind of justice can be done to the child you were except you loving and healing yourself and having a good life...

EightChalk · 24/10/2024 21:08

Tink3rbell30 · 24/10/2024 20:55

I'm just replying to people who keep replying to my comments as I didn't agree with what OP said.

No. Posting something really objectionable and callous to a victim of abuse on an emotional thread and then being all wide-eyed innocent about "but people just keep replying to me!" instead of going away is very transparent. You are not here in good faith, and it's very obvious.

BibiBlocksberg · 24/10/2024 21:06

He reaped what he sowed imo OP