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Who is unreasonable, Mil or Ds?

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 09:19

So Mil is having DS 11 over. I left some revision for him to do for school. Not something that will be handed in to school, just answering questions to show me so I can see if he's got it or needs more revision. Well, he called me crying telling me to please come and get him because grandma is telling him his writing is awful. Talked to grandma and told her that btw us I didn't care about his writing, just about the facts since it's not a paper to turn in, it's just for me. Also, to no dripfeed, he has always struggled with handwriting but has learnt to write correctly, if not beautifully, so it's something he's quite sensitive about apart from him being a sensitive child.

Mil is angry and says that we indulge him too much and he needs to hear that his handwriting is bad. And in any case he has not to lock himself in the barhroom and call me, it's really rude.
I agree to a certain extent with her but I do think her comment was unnecessary and hurtful. She's not involved with his homework (doesn't know the subject) so if someone should say something it's me. Then again he's overreacting. That's how I feel, would like to hear fellow mums' perspectives..

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Whalewatching · 24/10/2024 13:02

Honestly @Maria1979- I’d be inclined to forget the small details of who did what to whom and look at the big picture. The main thing is that Granny doesn’t ruin her good relationship with DS by being harsh and shitty. DS need to realise that locking himself in the bathroom and ringing mum is not going to fill Granny with joy and love.
I would gently and diplomatically point out each them, and then not leave DS with homework to do at Granny’s, or if he has to, tell her for the sake of harmony not to criticise. It’s yours and his teachers job to parent and teach. Granny shouldn’t compromise her relationship with DS over this. Tell them to go back to just enjoying spending time together.

MargaretThursday · 24/10/2024 12:56

I suspect it was a convenient excuse for him to stop doing the work.

My brother used to do that if ever asked to do the washing up. Any passing comment from anyone (like is the water hot enough) was a criticism that meant he flounced off and locked himself in the bathroom until it was done by someone else.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/10/2024 12:54

I’m a grandmother. Fairly normal, I think 😁 I wouldn’t be so rude.

ginasevern · 24/10/2024 12:51

Sounds like a normal grandmother sort of remark to me. Unless she was going on and on or being deliberately spiteful. My grandfather (in my case) would have certainly pulled me up on my handwriting. It's all part of life's rich tapestry and learning how to navigate different people and situations.

endofthelinefinally · 24/10/2024 12:50

How fast is her typing?
They don't do nearly as much writing these days so it isn't surprising that handwriting standards are not the same as they used to be. As long as it is legible I don't think it matters.

Sugargliderwombat · 24/10/2024 12:49

Apolloneuro · 24/10/2024 12:46

Is this additional work to his school homework? Eugh. Should be out in the fresh air getting some exercise, not doing extra work.

This reaction is indicative of him feeling very stressed, if you ask me. Lay off the poor boy.

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Agreed! Extra work in one subject from one parent then additional criticism about something else from a grandparent. Poor boy.

Isthiscorrect · 24/10/2024 12:47

Digressing. Get his eyesight checked for convergence. It happened to DS. 20/20 vision on regular eye test. At 14 years old said to school what can we do? He wouldn't write anything. Specialist eye test diagnosed convergence, glasses that made it so much easier. Additionally he had an assessment and was granted extra time and use of a computer for exams.
Good luck.
And yeah tell MiL to butt out. My (D)M had been a teacher and knew everything 🙄🤦‍♀️ and was dreadful to DS about his writing.

Apolloneuro · 24/10/2024 12:46

Is this additional work to his school homework? Eugh. Should be out in the fresh air getting some exercise, not doing extra work.

This reaction is indicative of him feeling very stressed, if you ask me. Lay off the poor boy.

Apolloneuro · 24/10/2024 12:43

Sugargliderwombat · 24/10/2024 09:52

Sounds like he's under a lot of pressure from everyone!

Yes. Why couldn’t he just go and have grandma time. Too much pressure.

FuzzyGoblin · 24/10/2024 12:35

I think you are the unreasonable one for not clearly setting the expectations and way of working. If you delegate a parenting task to someone, you have to expect them to do it their way unless you say otherwise. Sounds like your MIL and DS are experiencing the fallout of your failure to do this.

MiraculousLadybug · 24/10/2024 12:32

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:46

Yes, it's readable. It's been a couple of years since he had remarks from teachers.

In which case grandma is BU. The most important thing is that it's readable so examiners can pass him on things (if he doesn't qualify for adjustments of any sort). Anything else is OTT.

SeaToSki · 24/10/2024 12:11

If she insisted on saying over and over to him that his handwriting was bad, then MIL is unreasonable and cruel. She is not his teacher, his parent or a judge. IMHO grandparents job is unconditional love with a bit of spoiling thrown in, and if he was staying at MIL for a few nights, then she should keep it fun and happy…not be criticising and upsetting him.

I am assuming that if she was having him for a few nights, that they know each other quite well and she would know he is a sensitive sort..which makes it worse that she made multiple critical comments to him.

Maray1967 · 24/10/2024 12:09

And I think MIL should think carefully about whether her comments are likely to encourage DS to want to spend much time with her in the future.

Maray1967 · 24/10/2024 12:07

I suspect that at least one of mine would have had a similar reaction - and I would have gone and fetched him if I could.

Neither of mine coped well with DGP criticism - -and I have no memory of receiving criticism like that from mine. I got a very rare telling off when they were looking after me, yes - but I richly deserved it. I’d like to think I wouldn’t tell a DGC of mine that their handwriting is messy. I’d just try to help with the work if needed.

SummerSnowstorm · 24/10/2024 12:04

Her just saying "can you try to do your writing neater" would be fine, but the whole needing to hear its "bad" and that you indulge him shows a completely different attitude.

Does he generally enjoy seeing her alone/is it essential that he does for childcare reasons or can you do more family meet ups in future?

Otherwise if things like this keep happening he's not likely to have much relationship with her longer term.

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 12:03

CautiousLurker1 · 24/10/2024 11:17

Is grandma’s point that he doesn’t write in cursive? Ie in the way she was taught? Most schools simply prioritise legibility now.

I know I will be an outlier, but I would tell her to butt out as his writing is none of her business and she should apologise/tell him she spoke out of turn. And she did speak out of turn - telling an 11 year old that their writing is ‘bad’ is not a neutral or constructive comment, is it? Unless grandma recently retired from a secondary teaching career and therefore understands what current norms are, she is not qualified to comment - and if this were the case, I’d hope she’d handle her grandson and former pupils with a little more tact and sensitivity.

However, as his mother, I wouldn’t have sent him with homework that wasn’t required for school anyway, so I’d also be apologising for setting up this situation. If there is an underlying reason for the handwriting issue - mild dyspraxia, adhd etc - then I definitely can understand why he may be sensitive about it and likely to get distressed (and also, again, would not have sent homework with him to grandmas).

He writes in cursive and it's readable. It's required by school to know your lessons (3 tests coming up) so I made him revise that. I didn't make stuff up.

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 12:01

AppropriateAdult · 24/10/2024 11:54

If she phrased it like that ("awful") then she's very rude and should be apologising to him.

To be fair she knows he can write better than that, otherwise it would have been cruel. But he knows that as long as it's readable I don't care if it's pretty. He makes an effort in school that's good enough for me whereas grandma thought he ought to always make an effort.

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:59

nomoretreats · 24/10/2024 11:55

Your asking work to be completed on grandmas watch. Of course she is going to look to make sure he is doing said work.

You'd son is being dramatic and actually so are you. Grandma good enough to look after him for 'several days' but not good enough to say anything about the work.

You can't have it both ways.

Well, he's always done it on his own without incidents so far. And she doesn't need to supervise anything, that's exactly what I don't want because I don't want to give her extra work. It's btw him and me and until today no problems.

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:56

Threelittleduck · 24/10/2024 11:20

The person being most unreasonable was you. If you want to know where he is work wise do it on your time, not MILs
My DD has awful writing and would be upset if her grandparents pointed it out to her (because she already knows, as I'm sure your son does). Has she moaned about your son's writing before? How much did she say to him? I'm also baffled that you and MIL think it's rude for your son to lock himself in the bathroom and call you but it's not rude for her to criticise him,.

I don't think he was rude for locking himself in the bathroom. Mil said it was rude. I think it was a bit immature but he had his feelings hurt. I had prepared questions for him on subjects we already revised so just repeating things he already knows (or should know).

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nomoretreats · 24/10/2024 11:55

Your asking work to be completed on grandmas watch. Of course she is going to look to make sure he is doing said work.

You'd son is being dramatic and actually so are you. Grandma good enough to look after him for 'several days' but not good enough to say anything about the work.

You can't have it both ways.

AppropriateAdult · 24/10/2024 11:54

If she phrased it like that ("awful") then she's very rude and should be apologising to him.

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:51

MagpiePi · 24/10/2024 11:49

You keep saying she 'insisted on his handwriting'. What does that even mean?

She insisted on his handwriting being awful.

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:51

Tiswa · 24/10/2024 11:42

Is he year 6 11 and preparing for something because that does seem excessive

Year 7. They got tests coming up and I make him work maximum 30 minutes per day in order to play videogames. My mil said it took him 15 minutes. He can choose to do no revision but then there are no videogames so guess what he prefers.

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MagpiePi · 24/10/2024 11:49

You keep saying she 'insisted on his handwriting'. What does that even mean?

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:46

MiraculousLadybug · 24/10/2024 09:50

Is his handwriting actually readable by the average person in a reasonable amount of time? Because if it's not, she might have a point. Some children know all the stuff but if they can't write it down they can't pass tests/exams.

Yes, it's readable. It's been a couple of years since he had remarks from teachers.

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