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Who is unreasonable, Mil or Ds?

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Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 09:19

So Mil is having DS 11 over. I left some revision for him to do for school. Not something that will be handed in to school, just answering questions to show me so I can see if he's got it or needs more revision. Well, he called me crying telling me to please come and get him because grandma is telling him his writing is awful. Talked to grandma and told her that btw us I didn't care about his writing, just about the facts since it's not a paper to turn in, it's just for me. Also, to no dripfeed, he has always struggled with handwriting but has learnt to write correctly, if not beautifully, so it's something he's quite sensitive about apart from him being a sensitive child.

Mil is angry and says that we indulge him too much and he needs to hear that his handwriting is bad. And in any case he has not to lock himself in the barhroom and call me, it's really rude.
I agree to a certain extent with her but I do think her comment was unnecessary and hurtful. She's not involved with his homework (doesn't know the subject) so if someone should say something it's me. Then again he's overreacting. That's how I feel, would like to hear fellow mums' perspectives..

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phoenixrosehere · 28/10/2024 12:52

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2024 12:39

Speaking as a DGM who had to get involved in homework, it doesn't end well

Luckily it was eventually knocked on the head

Don't involve her at all with it

OP’s words

Fifth time: did not send work for Mil to supervise or help with. Only stuff he could do by himself. Mil went and had a look and commented.

diddl · 28/10/2024 12:46

My son's handwriting is bad.

He knows.

Keep telling him doesn't alter that!

If she wasn't trying to help in some way then she has upset him for no reason.

MsNeis · 28/10/2024 12:46

Labeling a child as "sensitive" is a red flag to me. A grandmother who makes her GC cry by criticizing them is an awful person, imo. Your son even rang you to come pick him up
I would not let him alone with her again.

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2024 12:39

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 11:40

He's spending several days at Mils's. Homework max 30 minutes per day so not excessive.

Speaking as a DGM who had to get involved in homework, it doesn't end well

Luckily it was eventually knocked on the head

Don't involve her at all with it

Swiftie1878 · 28/10/2024 12:31

As well as learning a little resilience, your son needs to be allowed to be a little more independent. He’s in Year 7, not a toddler.
I dislike your references to ‘we’ in relation to his school work. You should be teaching him how to organise his workload and time, not dictating when he does what.
You are setting him up to fail by this over-involvement in his school work. Be a parent, not a nagging school teacher.

Hankunamatata · 28/10/2024 12:13

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 14:04

He absolutely needs to learn resilience because he takes things to heart to easily. Do you have any suggestions? I have tried respiration excercices and mental images to no good...

Hi op. We did role play. So we replayed situation that got dc upset.
So would get dc to be grandma and say what she said then I gave him several choices perhaps he could have used to reply to grandma and how he could have expressed himself without getting upset. Or reflected back at dc letting them think how he could have handled situation differently

Emmz1510 · 28/10/2024 12:09

I wouldn’t be asking an 11 year old to revise for something when he’s not at home. Homework yes maybe if there is no other time and he’s being minded by gran, an older teenager revising for exams yes. But a little boy I’d just be letting him chill at grans.
Is it usual for your child to seem to ‘overreact’ to mild correction and guidance? If it’s not then it sounds like gran was unkind and unnecessarily critical. Even if he did ‘overreact’ that’s potentially a sign something is going with him. You as his mother knows it’s something he’s sensitive about, which is another reason I would probably want to supervise and support him myself rather than expect someone else to and expose him to their scrutiny.

Psychologymam · 28/10/2024 11:57

I’m not going to comment on anything apart from if he wants to contact his mother he is allowed to do that. Full stop. You might agree with grandma, you might chat to him later about behaviours and other choices, but no one would tell me kids they couldn’t contact me or tell me something. Work with lots of safeguarding though so could be colouring my view!

ChoccieCornflake · 28/10/2024 11:51

Just a thought. Teach him resilience by all means, but please don't ever tell him he's too sensitive. People who are sensitive to criticism tend to also be sensitive and caring to other people's feelings (as you've said yourself) and it's a complete mindfuck being told that sensitivity is bad one moment ("too" sensitive) and good the next (how good it is to be kind and sensitive to others). Just tell him being sensitive is great, and here's how to manage that without getting hurt by people's comments.

TicklishMintDuck · 28/10/2024 11:36

IslandSkies · 24/10/2024 09:57

I think your MIL is criticising his hand writing because in her day this was relatively important. Now a days it really isn’t. My best friend is a teacher and GCSE exam marker. She told me not to to focus on hand writing as teachers are experts and with exams a lot is scanned by computers now. Your MIL was probably out of depth with the homework itself.

Aside from that I would support your DS nonetheless, he is a child, you gave him the phone so he could contact you and I would support him. You aren’t spoiling him as MIL says.

Only multiple choice answers are scanned; extended answers are still read and marked by examiners, so it does need to be at least legible.

Maria1979 · 28/10/2024 10:17

So there is a whole range of opinions all from me being abusive to send homework when he's staying 5 days with grandma (which has never been a problem until now) to grandma being evil and abusive for saying his handwriting was awful to DS being ridiculous crying over a remark. It's really interesting to see how our prior experiences tend to interpret scenarious. Someone who can't stand boys being emotional, others who demonize the GM based upon one remark. And judges me severely for portioning out homework so there won't be too much at once.. Some posters are nuanced and try to explain and understand the protagonists different perspectives while others only side with the one they feel closest to due to their experience.

Everything is back to normal. My lovely Mil won't interfer anymore because even though her heart is at the right place she can be a bit plump which is due to her upbringing. DS is sensitive and I'm his safe place and I will never tell him off for calling me when upset so I can help him reason and dedramatize. His school is demanding and I will continue to have him work a little bit everyday rather than piling it up so he gets overwhelmed.

Thank you to everyone for leaving comments. Even though I don't agree with everyone It's been interesting to have different takes on a situation and I try to understand where you are all coming from.🌼

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phoenixrosehere · 28/10/2024 10:11

Maddy70 · 28/10/2024 09:36

She told him his handwriting was bad. She didn't give him 30 lashes

Phoning your mum because a grandparent made such a comment is a bit 'wet' tbh

Yes, the adult choosing to comment on a child’s handwriting knowing the child’s personality and their sensitivity about it is not an issue, the child complaining about it to their mum is the issue. 🙄

phoenixrosehere · 28/10/2024 10:06

godmum56 · 28/10/2024 09:29

This. I put the blame for this entirely on you and his grandmother. You shouldn't have sent him off to a sleepover with work to do but given that you did, she should have let him get on with it without getting involved and also she shouldn't have made the comment about indulging him. Poor child. If I had been him, I wouldn't just have locked myself on the bathroom, I'd have left the house and gone for a burger.

It’s part of his routine. This may shock some, but some children need routine even if it is a bit of homework and not doing it for several days or an entire week can kill their routine and make it harder for them to get back to it or try to get out of it because they didn’t have to do it during xyz so why do they have to do it now.

My parents nor my in-laws would have reacted this way or been as rude as OP’s MIL, but that’s because they understand how our children are, think education is important and know 30 minutes a day won’t damage their grandchildren.

Maria1979 · 28/10/2024 10:03

Rainbowstrike · 28/10/2024 09:54

Does your son have dysgraphia?
If so then MIL is very insensitive and your son has to work extra hard at making his writing look vaguely legible, he should be encouraged for his writing attempts despite the outcome

He doesn't. His handwriting is not bad at all when he makes an effort, which he does in school. This was not to be handed in to school though and he knows I don't care if he writes quickly as long as I understand it.

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Hereforaglance · 28/10/2024 10:02

Does child ring u for every negative comment made teachers must love you both

Rainbowstrike · 28/10/2024 09:54

Does your son have dysgraphia?
If so then MIL is very insensitive and your son has to work extra hard at making his writing look vaguely legible, he should be encouraged for his writing attempts despite the outcome

GrumpyPanda · 28/10/2024 09:41

Hoardasurass · 24/10/2024 11:03

Actually they're allowed to use voice to text or type these days if there's an issue with handwriting and scribes when a computer can't be used.
My ds has both dyslexia and severe hypermobility in his hands which renders his handwriting illegible and is 1 of many who don't have to write to pass exams

Handwriting is not just important to exams though. Students will be at a severe disadvantage if they're unable to take handwritten notes from a lecture, class discussion, or to summarise their own reading - there's a gazillion studies showing that typing simply doesn't involve the same kind of mental processing of the material that handwriting does. That's also why handwriting vocabulary cards works so well to reinforce foreign language acquisition. Mind you, all of that involves using handwriting for the individual's own use. Granny's most definitely out of line if she fancies herself a calligraphy teacher.

Maddy70 · 28/10/2024 09:36

She told him his handwriting was bad. She didn't give him 30 lashes

Phoning your mum because a grandparent made such a comment is a bit 'wet' tbh

godmum56 · 28/10/2024 09:29

Heidi00 · 24/10/2024 09:57

Why did he need to do this at grandma's to prove to you he could do it? It's hard for us to comment on MILs comment without actually hearing what was said, a little nudge about his writing is one thing, a rant or telling off is another.

This. I put the blame for this entirely on you and his grandmother. You shouldn't have sent him off to a sleepover with work to do but given that you did, she should have let him get on with it without getting involved and also she shouldn't have made the comment about indulging him. Poor child. If I had been him, I wouldn't just have locked myself on the bathroom, I'd have left the house and gone for a burger.

Wexone · 28/10/2024 09:22

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/10/2024 09:44

As a child with awful writing (due to a slightly odd educational experience) I can to some extent understand this child's reaction. To be criticised again for something that's not even relevant is dispiriting. I don't think I'd have flounced but such a comment would have made me miserable and therefore unable to concentrate on the actual revision.
I wouldn't have had the savoir faire to say, 'Yes, I know, I'm working on it'.

exactly 💯 percent. evey teachers parent meeting oh wexone needs to improve her handwriting my mother would constant criticise when saw my homework. I am now mid 40s and my writing is still terrible. thank god most is done by email etc now. Its just my own notes that are handwritten and I can read them that's all that matters. I am also a bad speller too so thank god for spell check

OhDearMuriel · 28/10/2024 08:47

I would get him back.

She's a nasty insensitive woman.

I think he should be commended for doing his revision and not be attacked negatively bu her!

Get the ignorant woman to look up disgraphia.

I hope you support and encourage your DS.

zeibesaffron · 28/10/2024 08:39

I see what the grandparent was saying but equally your DS was trying to complete school work just for you? and his Grandma was critical of his handwriting- poor kid!! If you’re concerned about a topic sit with him and ask questions or work through the issue yourself.

This all could have been avoided!

HappyTwo · 28/10/2024 08:17

Speak to your gp about his writing and a referral to your nhs Peds occupational therapist who can check his fingers for overly mobile joints.

Lennon80 · 28/10/2024 08:12

He’s going to need a thicker skin than that for secondary school!

lolapops1 · 28/10/2024 07:57

Maria1979 · 24/10/2024 09:19

So Mil is having DS 11 over. I left some revision for him to do for school. Not something that will be handed in to school, just answering questions to show me so I can see if he's got it or needs more revision. Well, he called me crying telling me to please come and get him because grandma is telling him his writing is awful. Talked to grandma and told her that btw us I didn't care about his writing, just about the facts since it's not a paper to turn in, it's just for me. Also, to no dripfeed, he has always struggled with handwriting but has learnt to write correctly, if not beautifully, so it's something he's quite sensitive about apart from him being a sensitive child.

Mil is angry and says that we indulge him too much and he needs to hear that his handwriting is bad. And in any case he has not to lock himself in the barhroom and call me, it's really rude.
I agree to a certain extent with her but I do think her comment was unnecessary and hurtful. She's not involved with his homework (doesn't know the subject) so if someone should say something it's me. Then again he's overreacting. That's how I feel, would like to hear fellow mums' perspectives..

I don't think anyone should say anything regardless of who they are. There is not a pecking order to have a go at someone.
Poor lad will be feeling so much pressure, it is a pretty hard age to be with hormones kicking in and they get so much homework.