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A Maximum BMI for nurses

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soapydopeybubbles · 23/10/2024 20:17

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/21/how-public-thinks-nhs-should-change/

According to the Telegraph one of the most popular ideas for improving the NHS is to have a maximum BMI for nurses. This is from the website set up for suggestions but also continues in the comments for the article.

I'm a neonatal nurse and I am classed as obese. I wear L/XL scrubs and I'm a dress size 14-16.

Does the public honestly think that I'd be a better nurse if I was thinner? Or, as written in the comments, if I wore a cap and apron, had no tattoos and didn't dye my hair?

I'm a large woman but I'm pretty sure I wasn't magically better and making up complex medications, changing ridiculously tiny nappies and resuscitating sick newborns when I was rather thinner than I am now.

I can see why people might have the opinion that if we're giving out health advice we should lead by example but it's mainly the doctors giving the advice and the nurses doing the hands on caring.

I just don't understand why there seems to be such a focus on how a particular staff group looks, rather than the actual issues in the NHS.

AIBU?

Weight limits for nurses and charging tourists – how public thinks NHS should change

Bizarre online suggestions blight first day of Government’s consultation

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/21/how-public-thinks-nhs-should-change

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 24/10/2024 20:44

Rachie1973 · 24/10/2024 20:27

I love my DHs oncologist. He got him into remission and gave us time.

quite frankly I wouldn’t care if he presented in a bikini 3 sizes too small, a bald tattooed head and a banana up each nostril so long as he continues to keep being the great Dr he is.

If this does happen could you post a pic?

Rachie1973 · 24/10/2024 20:27

daliesque · 23/10/2024 20:19

Because people are arses. From an overweight oncologist.

I love my DHs oncologist. He got him into remission and gave us time.

quite frankly I wouldn’t care if he presented in a bikini 3 sizes too small, a bald tattooed head and a banana up each nostril so long as he continues to keep being the great Dr he is.

Midsizegal29 · 24/10/2024 20:19

It’s because the majority of nurses are female and using weight as a public/political football is an easy way of making headlines. Same vein as cutting the school holidays without mentioning that this would involve changing the contracts of every single school employee (and paying them more by doing so). It’s a quick win headline that’s all!

LIJ · 24/10/2024 19:58

Luv it😂😂

Tessabelle74 · 24/10/2024 19:55

I don't give a flying fuck what you look like, as long as you're competent in your job you could dress in a blow up Tyranasaurus costume for all I care

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/10/2024 19:47

I'm willing to put money on the mental image for a lot of those people involves a lot more than just larger build nurses - after all, the NHS is one of the most ethnically diverse employers - and they're thinking back to a imagined past where nurses looked as though they were in Carry On, Matron (and in their head, would behave like it, too).

Metro45 · 24/10/2024 19:21

It's the bird 🐦 from me to the Telegraph. Size 20 RMN

ridl14 · 24/10/2024 19:17

People are awful, that was one of the most ridiculous suggestions. And if they're suggesting that, then why not stopping doctors from smoking/drinking or worse to cope with the stress?

I think the public probably feel defensive about their poor lifestyle choices and want to turn it back on the professionals who might tell them to act differently. Gross behaviour! Not least when we have such a crisis in healthcare, especially in nursing.

I do think that shift work must make it particularly difficult to eat well and healthily. As a teacher I feel limited in the food I can bring to school and eat very quickly, usually one handed in between working. I used to keep cereal bars in my desk to be able to eat in the morning, though they're full of sugar. I think the government should be helping anyone in a demanding public sector job to be supported to be healthy eg providing access to healthy snacks, fruit, maybe a professional discount on a meal subscription service. I can't imagine trying to plan healthy meals around a 12h overnight shift.

MMUmum · 24/10/2024 19:13

I hated those bloody cardboard hats that served no purpose. One patient on a dementia ward I was training on used to delight in knocking them.off when you bent down near her😡 I agree Nurses should lead by example but if it came to saving my life, fat or thin I wouldn't care.

Deeperthantheocean · 24/10/2024 19:09

Absolute codswallop! The only criteria should be how well anyone can do their job in every sphere.

Missymoo100 · 24/10/2024 19:06

It said it was a suggestion and there’s a screen shot showing all of …. 3 comments…I don’t think it’s a true reflection of public opinion, more of a silly headline

Literallywingingit · 24/10/2024 18:55

What a load of shite! BMI is such an antiquated measurement system. A person and their size rarely, if ever, reflects on their ability to show kindness and compassion. It would be different if they were physically unable to do their job but I highly doubt this is the case. People trying to police other people and their bodies yet again!

noodlebugz · 24/10/2024 18:55

fucks sake - there’s a direct link between obesity and poverty. There’s evidence that even some qualified staff are having to use food banks let alone our band 2,3 and 4 colleagues.
Pay us properly for our skills and responsibility - attack us about our weight later.
Pretty sure the former won’t happen so we don’t have to worry about the latter.

Thistlewoman · 24/10/2024 18:09

soapydopeybubbles · 23/10/2024 20:17

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/21/how-public-thinks-nhs-should-change/

According to the Telegraph one of the most popular ideas for improving the NHS is to have a maximum BMI for nurses. This is from the website set up for suggestions but also continues in the comments for the article.

I'm a neonatal nurse and I am classed as obese. I wear L/XL scrubs and I'm a dress size 14-16.

Does the public honestly think that I'd be a better nurse if I was thinner? Or, as written in the comments, if I wore a cap and apron, had no tattoos and didn't dye my hair?

I'm a large woman but I'm pretty sure I wasn't magically better and making up complex medications, changing ridiculously tiny nappies and resuscitating sick newborns when I was rather thinner than I am now.

I can see why people might have the opinion that if we're giving out health advice we should lead by example but it's mainly the doctors giving the advice and the nurses doing the hands on caring.

I just don't understand why there seems to be such a focus on how a particular staff group looks, rather than the actual issues in the NHS.

AIBU?

The weight limit idea is rubbish, and to be fair even the Telegraph calls it 'Bizarre' in the sub headline. Most normal people would rather have a health professional who is blooming good at their job, than a skinny one who isn't.

Tiredmomma86 · 24/10/2024 18:08

This is ridiculous and extremely irresponsible but don’t take a blind bit of notice. With love from an overweight (veterinary) nurse

Weald56 · 24/10/2024 18:01

Just imagine how much worse the shortage of nurses would get - no EU nurses thanks to Brexit, no slightly overweight nurses due to the Telegraph... 🤔

Icannotremembermyusername · 24/10/2024 11:29

This is so shocking. Can anyone honestly say that when you are ill or your loved ones are ill, that the first thing that comes to mind when they meet a nurse looking after them, is their size?? I mean come on! They are there to provide a caring and supportive service as well as excellent medical care. And I expect all that running around they are probably fitter than me.

Pottedpalm · 24/10/2024 11:27

MissTrip82 · 24/10/2024 11:19

That’s great advice! Amazing that you make this work for you around 12+ hour night shifts, how many years have you been doing them for now?

No one works 12 hour shifts every night of the week. They must shop for food and make meals!
Several family members work
in the NHS in role from Surgeon to ICU Staff Nurse to Dietician ( not sure of full tile). They work shifts and on call weekends and take their own food.

Thomasina79 · 24/10/2024 11:21

I’m having an operation in a couple of days and don’t give S……t what the staff’s BMI is as long as they know their job and look after me with gentleness, skill and kindness, which I am sure they will!

I admire all the professionals in our NHS and think they deserve more recognition.

Calliopespa · 24/10/2024 11:20

MissTrip82 · 24/10/2024 11:19

That’s great advice! Amazing that you make this work for you around 12+ hour night shifts, how many years have you been doing them for now?

Well I actually keep an oily rag in my pocket and sniff it.

MissTrip82 · 24/10/2024 11:19

Pottedpalm · 24/10/2024 11:16

Or they could take their own food! Flask of soup or pasta or stew, fruit, nuts, healthier snacks. No fridge or microwave needed. Why go to work knowing that the only food options available are snacks from a vending machine? Many, many people take their own food to work. It’s cheaper too.
Not having time to eat is another matter, but again one that many in other walks of life ate affected by too.

That’s great advice! Amazing that you make this work for you around 12+ hour night shifts, how many years have you been doing them for now?

MissTrip82 · 24/10/2024 11:16

dragonfliesandbees · 24/10/2024 07:43

Surely it’s about being physically fit enough to do the job rather than about looks? But BMI alone doesn’t tell you anything about a person’s fitness so it’s still a bollocks idea.

Of course it’s not about being physically fit. Why on earth would you think that motivated these comments.

Flat out misogyny is the problem here, hence the focus on a largely female professional group.

Pottedpalm · 24/10/2024 11:16

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 23/10/2024 23:11

I am not an NHS worker, but have spent a lot of time hanging around the local hospital for one family member or another in the past 10 years. I would say that if we want healthy nurses then they should be provided access to buy nutritious food on their shifts. If you are working all night, the vending machine is not going to provide that. No wonder someone might put on weight when all they have access to is a packet of walkers and a twix. One canteen worker could surely be enough to sell salads, sarnies, soups and fruit to give people a decent snack or 3am "lunch"?

Or they could take their own food! Flask of soup or pasta or stew, fruit, nuts, healthier snacks. No fridge or microwave needed. Why go to work knowing that the only food options available are snacks from a vending machine? Many, many people take their own food to work. It’s cheaper too.
Not having time to eat is another matter, but again one that many in other walks of life ate affected by too.

HollyKnight · 24/10/2024 11:09

I've said this before, as a tubby woman, I would rather discuss my weight with an overweight nurse than a slim one because I feel like there would be less jugement from an overweight nurse as clearly they understand the struggle.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/10/2024 11:04

ManyATrueWord · Today 07:41

I'd love to see the lawsuit on this! Massive sex discrimination payout not to mention the inappropriate use of BMI”

How is is sex discrimination?