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MrsBunTheBakersMum · 23/10/2024 16:24

I want to preface this with violence is never the first answer and there was better ways of dealing with it.

I got a call from ds (13) school to say that he had been in trouble because he punched a boy in the face and knocked him to the ground, ds is autistic and wears a hat as a comfort item, he’s worn a hat every day for three years and is extremely protective of his hats, no one touches them not even me and his dad. The last time he got into trouble for violence was nearly two years ago when a kid took his hat and wouldn’t give it back. My ds is also gender confused at the moment, and has been since he was 7! (Still Goes by he/him) most people see a quiet gentle effeminate boy and think he will be a pushover but he’s not.

basically the kid took his hat and denied it, ds got in his face and asked for it back and he threw it into the mud at which point ds pushed him towards it and said “pick it up” (all on cctv with audio) the kid said no and pushed back, there was a scuffle and next thing the kid is on his arse on the floor holding his face and ds just calmly picked up his hat and walked off.
school were surprisingly understanding and said he wouldn’t try it on with ds again! Ds is getting isolated at break times for a day but won’t be suspended.

obviously I’ve spoken to ds about how there’s better ways to deal with things than resorting to violence but part of me wants to give him a high five! He’s always been a target for bullies for obvious reasons but I’m quite old and from the generation that understood that if you didn’t knock a bully on their arse and humble them they’d never stop. Hopefully this kid was suitably humiliated by getting his arse handed to him by a boy in a pink hat in front of the whole school and will learn a lesson from it.

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Member984815 · 24/10/2024 09:43

Good for him, violence is not usually the answer and I wouldn't celebrate it in front of him but persistent bullying sometimes needs a strong resistance. And fwiw to me satanism is just another religion , I don't get the pearl clutching .

SassK · 24/10/2024 09:34

Over40Overdating · 24/10/2024 09:21

@SassK that statement shows not only your ignorance but your insecurity in organised religion.

If your faith is such that you see someone else’s beliefs as a calculated insult, the problem is you, not other religions.

Abrahamic religions have one core thing in common - the need to recruit and retain members through fear mongering and demonisation of all other belief systems.
Free will and critical thinking are the first things they want control of. A belief system that encourages the opposite therefore must be evil. Why?

More destruction, death, pain, societal and generational harm has been done in the name of God than any other demon or deity.

If there is a definition of evil, it fits god and his agents very well.

The Temple of Satan in the US advocates for abortion as health care and helps women in need access that healthcare while good ol Christians want women and children to bear children at any cost, under any circumstances, and if they die, well that’s God’s will. Once those forced births result in live children, there is no Christian charity in sight, only moral judgement.

But let’s focus on satanists as try hard, and an insult to ‘people of faith’.

Signed, an ex Catholic.

I have no religious faith/belief; I'd describe myself as agnostic.

Satanism isn't a belief system, it isn't even about rejecting beliefs. As I said, it's by design a mocking and taunting position.

Over40Overdating · 24/10/2024 09:23

@TheaBrandt if someone is twisting in knots, it’s not me.

Passive aggression is the lowest form of intellectual wit. Most people grow out of that by 18 too.

Over40Overdating · 24/10/2024 09:21

@SassK that statement shows not only your ignorance but your insecurity in organised religion.

If your faith is such that you see someone else’s beliefs as a calculated insult, the problem is you, not other religions.

Abrahamic religions have one core thing in common - the need to recruit and retain members through fear mongering and demonisation of all other belief systems.
Free will and critical thinking are the first things they want control of. A belief system that encourages the opposite therefore must be evil. Why?

More destruction, death, pain, societal and generational harm has been done in the name of God than any other demon or deity.

If there is a definition of evil, it fits god and his agents very well.

The Temple of Satan in the US advocates for abortion as health care and helps women in need access that healthcare while good ol Christians want women and children to bear children at any cost, under any circumstances, and if they die, well that’s God’s will. Once those forced births result in live children, there is no Christian charity in sight, only moral judgement.

But let’s focus on satanists as try hard, and an insult to ‘people of faith’.

Signed, an ex Catholic.

TheaBrandt · 24/10/2024 09:14

Twist yourself in knots all you like but we all know the “ I’m so naughty and wild and out there and you parents are dull squares” is absolutely classic teen! Most grow out of it by 18 thankfully.

Over40Overdating · 24/10/2024 09:10

@TheaBrandt passive aggression dressed up as nonchalance is also something teenagers do to seem interesting, FYI.

Over40Overdating · 24/10/2024 09:07

It’s not trying to troll or be provocative to acknowledge that a lot of posters on here are exceptionally judgmental and narrow minded when it comes to any beliefs outside of Christianity, even if those posters claim atheism. Tarring anyone with alternative beliefs as being try hard for attention is as reductive and dull as the pearl clutching Boden mummy trope.

So if you don’t like being referred to as a pearl clutcher or basic boden mummy, don’t live down to those stereotypes in the same way you reduce people who follow the beliefs of satanism to the very dull and uninformed view you have of them.

Basically, mind your business, keep your ignorance to yourself and your feelings won’t be hurt. Which I believe is one of the laws of satanism. Much more useful the ‘thou shalt feel morally superior to everyone who isn’t you’ rule so many Christians live by.

SassK · 24/10/2024 08:51

TheaBrandt · 24/10/2024 08:19

The satanist thing is just abit….weird. The gleeful “you boden loving mummies will be shocked” post was funny too. It’s rather teenage behaviour “look at us we are so out there and spicy but we really need to tell you we are satanists it’s the most interesting thing about us”. The only response is a “that’s nice dear”.

I like a laugh, but the pearl clutching patter is boring. It's trolling by any definition, as is calling yourself a satanist.

Questioning organised religion where necessary, and the harm it does (as well as the good, because there IS a lot of good), is perfectly reasonable. Calling yourself a satanist however is, by calculated design, only about insulting and taunting people of faith.

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 24/10/2024 08:26

Ds has a just admitted this kid has been trying to provoke him since the start of school.

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TheaBrandt · 24/10/2024 08:19

The satanist thing is just abit….weird. The gleeful “you boden loving mummies will be shocked” post was funny too. It’s rather teenage behaviour “look at us we are so out there and spicy but we really need to tell you we are satanists it’s the most interesting thing about us”. The only response is a “that’s nice dear”.

FamilyPhoto · 24/10/2024 08:01

Well done op's son.
My Dd was put into all day isolation once in primary for punching a boy who was throwing things at her friend.
Sounds like an over reaction?
DD's friend had Downs Syndrome and the boy was in year 6 while they were in year 3.
This boy had been targeting DD's friend for months, verbally, but as ther 1 to 1 was not present ramped it up to throwing clods of dirt and stones.
I have never been so proud, the friends mum brought her some sweets, the boys mum.asked the school NOT to punish her.

ToNiceWithSpice · 24/10/2024 07:51

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 24/10/2024 07:48

To clear things up, yes I’m a satanist, I’m a member of the satanic temple. I don’t worship or even believe in Satan I’d describe it as spicy atheism.
mum not and will never be associated with the church of Satan who have vey different views to me.

to believe in Satan you have to by default believe in god and I don’t, I joined the satanic temple because I agree with the tenets they live by and it’s a lovely welcoming community made up of people who want to be kind and help people because it’s the right thing to do rather than because their god will punish them if they don’t. so completely different to pearl clutching Christians. its unlikely I’ll post on this username again which is sad.

Ignore it, you can believe what you like.

myrtleWilson · 24/10/2024 07:50

Don’t let @themamanet bully you out of your username/presence on MN @MrsBunTheBakersMum

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 24/10/2024 07:48

To clear things up, yes I’m a satanist, I’m a member of the satanic temple. I don’t worship or even believe in Satan I’d describe it as spicy atheism.
mum not and will never be associated with the church of Satan who have vey different views to me.

to believe in Satan you have to by default believe in god and I don’t, I joined the satanic temple because I agree with the tenets they live by and it’s a lovely welcoming community made up of people who want to be kind and help people because it’s the right thing to do rather than because their god will punish them if they don’t. so completely different to pearl clutching Christians. its unlikely I’ll post on this username again which is sad.

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myrtleWilson · 24/10/2024 07:47

well I’m cool with protecting/securing reproductive rights so thanks Satanic Temple guys!

themamanet · 24/10/2024 07:25

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 24/10/2024 07:24

Church of Satan and the satanic temple are very different things, surely that came up in your extensive research

they are

and satanic temple is also profoundly disturbing

Evil many would say

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 24/10/2024 07:24

themamanet · 24/10/2024 06:52

why don’t you click on the link the above poster posted that the Op has started and take a read

and then take a ganda on “church of satan” on other sources

Edited

Church of Satan and the satanic temple are very different things, surely that came up in your extensive research

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themamanet · 24/10/2024 07:02

ToNiceWithSpice · 24/10/2024 06:58

Why? I'm not interested in the ops threads about Satan

fair enough

ToNiceWithSpice · 24/10/2024 06:58

themamanet · 24/10/2024 06:52

why don’t you click on the link the above poster posted that the Op has started and take a read

and then take a ganda on “church of satan” on other sources

Edited

Why? I'm not interested in the ops threads about Satan

themamanet · 24/10/2024 06:57

@Over40Overdating says The people who worship the altar of Jonny Boden and Ocado will have no truck with satanists!

Pretty sure i speak for the majority when i say…. I’m ok with having “no truck with satanists” 😆

themamanet · 24/10/2024 06:52

ToNiceWithSpice · 23/10/2024 23:43

You jumped on a quote where op was saying she didn't think she started a previous thread about her son

Then started banging on about Satan and that the op was lying about not starting a thread about it, which is not what the op did 🙄

why don’t you click on the link the above poster posted that the Op has started and take a read

and then take a ganda on “church of satan” on other sources

ConiferBat · 24/10/2024 00:42

Bikessmikes · 23/10/2024 17:19

You NEVER start it, but you're allowed to end it.

Do you all live in an Enid Blyton novel?!

Yes.
"The Famous Five are Taught Don't Throw the First Punch but they Know they're supported if they Fight Back" 😒

They all have a ginger beer at the end.

ToNiceWithSpice · 23/10/2024 23:43

themamanet · 23/10/2024 21:16

i am not referring to the op and a previous thread re her son? what are you talking about

it was purely the satan thread i was referring to

You jumped on a quote where op was saying she didn't think she started a previous thread about her son

Then started banging on about Satan and that the op was lying about not starting a thread about it, which is not what the op did 🙄

SassK · 23/10/2024 23:29

Over40Overdating · 23/10/2024 21:33

Oh dear @MrsBunTheBakersMum now that the extremely hard of critical thinking know you are a satanist, it’s curtains for your thread.

Pearls will be clutched and lips pursed at your ungodlyness. Never mine the tenets of satanism being more equitable and humane than the widely revered commandments. The people who worship the altar of Jonny Boden and Ocado will have no truck with satanists!!

Someone calling themselves a satanist is NOT seeking inconspicuousness. Indeed the worst thing you could do is ignore them, because if everyone ignored them then what would be the point?

I'm agnostic, a terrible sinner I'm sure, and I find it in very poor taste. You can fight the power, sock it to the man... you can object to organised religion without ripping the absolute piss out of people of faith (seeking only to insult them; making it your very raison d'etre, actually).

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