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To be depressed about how expensive but shyt the UK is

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OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 09:46

God it's expensive God it's shit

Please regale me with examples of how other places are also shit and it's not just here

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Ic3333 · 25/10/2024 06:22

greatoceanroad · 24/10/2024 23:41

I do think this is a case of the grass is always greener. I've lived in a few countries now and honestly the UK is not bad. Yes it's expensive but so is everywhere. I know the NHS has its faults but damn I have had outstanding care this year from them. Even today my GP called me with blood test results and told me to go straight to my local hospital to be assessed and I was seen immediately and I am getting a blood transfusion tomorrow. I think if you are miserable you will be miserable everywhere

Lucky you, my kids are on multiple waiting lists some so long we have no idea they’ll be seen. We’re living with the impact such waits and lack of care bring.

RareFatball · 25/10/2024 05:14

RamonaRamirez · 23/10/2024 10:25

A grumpy person can always find things to complain about and make themselves more miserable

have you ever lived anywhere else? I have lived in lots of different countries, EU and developing world, and nowhere is Utopia (not even Sweden, trust me, the Dutch are not happy either, the Spanish face lots of issues)

yes there are lots of things here that could be better but it is a bit of a glass half empty approach to say everything is shite”

if you genuinely believe that though, and feel that strongly can you look at moving abroad? Maybe you are not in the best country for you? Maybe You would be happier somewhere else? Sometimes it is good to not just complain but also take action. You might love it in Oz/Europe/US/Asia/anywhere

be brave

Could not agree more with your comments.
I am currently in Turkey and many of the turkish people think the exact same about their own country. They think UK would be a better option for them. Have said we have same problems but without the sunshine.

ForGreyKoala · 25/10/2024 04:57

dramallama25 · 23/10/2024 20:11

The only country I can compare to is Australia, which is no shit in a lot of ways, but if you think the UK is expensive then you'd be shocked at the cost of things over there.

I think you will find the wages are higher, which surely compensates somewhat. You can't compare prices without looking at income.

Lostsadandconfused · 25/10/2024 01:56

chubbychopsticks · 24/10/2024 22:15

In Australia, you pay a lot for everything. Depending on where you live you pay more than other states. Going on holiday ridiculously expensive and far away from most places. Going out unless it’s the beach is expensive. it’s always hot. So hot you can’t go to the beach or leave aircon places. Running aircon day and night so you can escape the terrible heat is expensive.
Food more expensive than UK.
Healthcare expensive and hospitals always full. 8-9 hour waits in A&E. I could go on!

I lived in Europe also and whilst it’s cheaper spending pounds when you earn the local currency it’s ridiculously expensive also.

UK isn’t so bad.

Have you actually ever been to Australia?

You know it snows here. And the southern part of the country is cool to moderate most of the year. I turned my aircon on 3 days last summer. And our electricity costs pretty much peanuts compared to the UK.

Lostsadandconfused · 25/10/2024 01:53

echt · 24/10/2024 23:00

It is not always hot in Australia - for a start it's a continent as well as a country - you wouldn't say that about the USA would you? Everywhere in Australia has seasons.

I've been to A&E on a number of occasions and have always been seen in about 20 minutes.

A UK friend who lived here in Melbourne for year in '23 said everything was much the same as the UK except alcohol, and Australian wages were way higher.

A lot of things are the same cost in AUD as GBP.

But you get 2 AUD for 1 pound.

So a takeaway coffee here, $5, 5 quid in the UK.

McDonalds Big Mac meal, $13 here, 13 quid in the UK, etc

Lostsadandconfused · 25/10/2024 01:47

What is a meal deal?

I’m Australian, visited the UK for a month recently. Almost everything was significantly more expensive there. With the exception of some supermarket groceries. The cost of petrol and utilities alone in the UK is much more expensive than here.

Tourmalines · 25/10/2024 00:54

echt · 24/10/2024 23:00

It is not always hot in Australia - for a start it's a continent as well as a country - you wouldn't say that about the USA would you? Everywhere in Australia has seasons.

I've been to A&E on a number of occasions and have always been seen in about 20 minutes.

A UK friend who lived here in Melbourne for year in '23 said everything was much the same as the UK except alcohol, and Australian wages were way higher.

Agree , and the uk takeaway is much dearer . And the bloody parking fees everywhere!

greatoceanroad · 24/10/2024 23:41

I do think this is a case of the grass is always greener. I've lived in a few countries now and honestly the UK is not bad. Yes it's expensive but so is everywhere. I know the NHS has its faults but damn I have had outstanding care this year from them. Even today my GP called me with blood test results and told me to go straight to my local hospital to be assessed and I was seen immediately and I am getting a blood transfusion tomorrow. I think if you are miserable you will be miserable everywhere

antikkiti · 24/10/2024 23:15

grimupnorthnot · 23/10/2024 11:07

I was in France 3 weeks ago and if definitely didn't feel expensive to either shopping or eat out. In fact, eating out was a lot cheaper than where I live in the UK

I live in France and can assure you that the price of supermarket shopping is almost 25% higher than in the UK. Eating out is reasonable providing you avoid the more upmarket restaurants and stick to the menu du jour. But generally life here in France is every bit as expensive as the UK. For example, a second hand car here could cost twice the price of the same car in the UK.

Meadowlands · 24/10/2024 23:09

Wouldn't it be nice if negative people started to appreciate what they have rather than what they haven't got ?
People's lives are being destroyed around the world by wars, droughts, famines, hurricanes, floods etc and here we have complaints about rain and prices.

echt · 24/10/2024 23:00

chubbychopsticks · 24/10/2024 22:15

In Australia, you pay a lot for everything. Depending on where you live you pay more than other states. Going on holiday ridiculously expensive and far away from most places. Going out unless it’s the beach is expensive. it’s always hot. So hot you can’t go to the beach or leave aircon places. Running aircon day and night so you can escape the terrible heat is expensive.
Food more expensive than UK.
Healthcare expensive and hospitals always full. 8-9 hour waits in A&E. I could go on!

I lived in Europe also and whilst it’s cheaper spending pounds when you earn the local currency it’s ridiculously expensive also.

UK isn’t so bad.

It is not always hot in Australia - for a start it's a continent as well as a country - you wouldn't say that about the USA would you? Everywhere in Australia has seasons.

I've been to A&E on a number of occasions and have always been seen in about 20 minutes.

A UK friend who lived here in Melbourne for year in '23 said everything was much the same as the UK except alcohol, and Australian wages were way higher.

antikkiti · 24/10/2024 22:55

OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 10:15

Absolutely everything has gone up. Clothes, food, travel, accommodation. Fun. Everything. It's so extortionate compared to over the channel.

I live "over the channel" in France and food prices here are higher than in the UK. The grass is always greener, they say...

fetchacloth · 24/10/2024 22:54

BigDahliaFan · 23/10/2024 12:00

To me it's gone back to a bit like it was in the 80s, more unemployment, petty crime, everywhere is a bit grubby, there's no sense of optimism.

The 1970s were much worse. At least things improved during the 1980s and quite quickly. Frankly I would return to the 1980s in a heartbeat.

bumblebee1000 · 24/10/2024 22:32

I spend a lot of time in Barcelona, own a share of a house there with 2 friends who live permanently...the supermarket shop is appx 25% dearer...electric is dearer, water and gas about same as uk. transport is much cheaper. council tax lots cheaper. generally its safe to walk around, no stabbings, phone thefts, streets are clean, lots of police. our place is just outside so its totally safe, centre of barcelona has lots of pick pocketing. but you just dont see the swarms of crack users that london has and the fly tipping and rubbish all over. health insurance is not too dear and its excellent. all dentists are private but appx 30% cheaper than uk. I would love to move over permanently, so much is free...music festivals, and the nice weather to just be outside and go for walks or the beach etc. coffee in cafe is also cheap at £1.20, not the stupid london prices of £4.20........but overall, its just so civilised, no gangs of teens or druggies on the streets intimidating people.

Movingon2024 · 24/10/2024 22:25

I moved to a southern European country earlier this year. Not one of thr richest. What I would say is:

  • healthcare is definitely better - yes you pay for use but it's an insurance system and fees are low. And you can get appointments immediately, usually the same day, and the care, both GP and hospitals, is top notch.
  • food, eating out, entertainment etc are cheaper and better quality though food is more seasonal
  • anything to do with govt is much harder than the uk
  • societally it's more traditional/conservative so sometimes I miss the diversity of the uk & social progressiveness
  • local schools are well regarded and of a good standard, teaching seems to be held in high esteem as profession
  • rubbish collection is worse, the uk seems very clean in comparison.
chubbychopsticks · 24/10/2024 22:15

In Australia, you pay a lot for everything. Depending on where you live you pay more than other states. Going on holiday ridiculously expensive and far away from most places. Going out unless it’s the beach is expensive. it’s always hot. So hot you can’t go to the beach or leave aircon places. Running aircon day and night so you can escape the terrible heat is expensive.
Food more expensive than UK.
Healthcare expensive and hospitals always full. 8-9 hour waits in A&E. I could go on!

I lived in Europe also and whilst it’s cheaper spending pounds when you earn the local currency it’s ridiculously expensive also.

UK isn’t so bad.

BySparklyMoose · 24/10/2024 22:05

It’s the rain. Gawd. It’s constant now and the lovely autumnal blue skies and crisp cold days can feel like another age. Having said that, I’ ve lived in 3 other countries and I started to miss the rain but I also missed our seasons, these are not so well defined just a few years later. But, I also missed the radio, the music, the tv and the BBC, the chat, the knowing of the ways, norms and values, basically our culture. You don’t appreciate it so much until you don’t have it. But it’s special.

SpunkyKoala · 24/10/2024 21:09

I lived in Canada if you think the UK is expensive you should try that on for size - if they could find a way to tax air they would

Iceboy80 · 24/10/2024 20:41

No you're totally correct it's an absolute dump and we pay through the nose whilst in turn subsidising the bone idle and newcomers and it makes me sick. So your 100% right.

Efrogwraig · 24/10/2024 20:28

Umbrella15 · 24/10/2024 18:57

I agree, the UK is shit. I remember when gp surgeries opened on Saturday, when schools actully taught kids how to do their time tables and spelling, by having regular spelling tests. When a single parent was very rare, because a man or a woman actully stuck around and couldnt use the internet to start affairs, (the internet had caused a lot of misery). When shops shut on Sundays and xmas day, so families spent the day together instead of working. Rubbish was collected and not dumped in streets. So yes this country had gone down hill rapidly. We are to overcrowded, so the nhs, the schools and housing are struggling. People no longer want to work, because in some cases they get more money on benefits than in a minimum paid job. Everything is expensive compared to other countries and the weather is just constant rain.

Yes Sundays were interminable.

emanresu3 · 24/10/2024 20:11

I am a woman in my seventies I dont drive, I use public transport or walk. I no longer feel safe in this country of pissheads, drug users and rowdy teenagers when out and about. Unlike in Spain where behaviour of the general public is 100% better. Unfortunately since Brexit I dont have a big enough income to be allowed to become a resident now. AlsoI dont enjoy much confectionary anymore . The price is extortionate and they use less chocolate and more milk and sugar. The price of food I have no complaints with but Yes I would say the UK is Shyte now

Ic3333 · 24/10/2024 19:56

Nagyandi · 24/10/2024 18:33

MH is a different animal, as I have sadly experienced for my family myself. The trouble with MH is that not only is there a shortage of beds/ staff/ funding, but there’s also a shortage of ideas of how to treat people with MH issues. I tried to access help privately and there’s a dearth of resources, especially for children—psychiatrist/ psychologist wait times are 6+ months, in many cases a year. I even considered taking my child abroad to
get treatment.

There are ideas, good ideas but they involve appointments with experienced and well qualified staff. Something we no longer seem to have available for the vast majority.

Ic3333 · 24/10/2024 19:54

coffeesaveslives · 24/10/2024 18:34

It's honestly not like that everywhere though - unfortunately it just seems to be a real postcode lottery.

It’s well known that nhs dentistry has gone,A&E waits are ridiculous,2 week waits for GPs and horrendously long hospital waiting lists are the norm. Anybody not experiencing that is the exception.

Stringofpearlies · 24/10/2024 19:24

Try living in New Zealand. God I miss the supermarkets in the UK.

CalmMintReader · 24/10/2024 19:23

HotPipe · 24/10/2024 17:19

Thanks for that, it is always interesting to hear how other nations manage their healthcare. It sounds expensive in Ireland - I was really impressed though at the cheap cost of a hospital stay in Sweden and their speedy service.

I am not one to knock the NHS. I have only positive things to say about them, but then I am not on a waiting list. Maybe that's what the grumbles are about.

Last month I rang my doctors at 11.15am for an appointment and they said can you get here for 11.30am! 15 mins - I scooted down there!! I booked a follow up appointment for one week later and had no issue. I am in the east midlands if that makes a difference and they are really good.
My surgery rang me in August and booked me in for a smear test. I had a mammogram this Wednesday. I have a migraine yearly check up in November. I honestly can't fault them.

The only thing I pay for is my migraine prescription.

Also, the weather is fine for me. I've lived in England a long time and it is what it is - not sure why people expect constant sunshine.

Totally agree with this, we’ve never had a problem getting appointments and the weather is fine - it’s a temperate climate. I think people don’t consider the disadvantages of living in hot countries and those with extreme weather.