Page 11 | To be depressed about how expensive but shyt the UK is

OptimismvsRealism · 2024-10-23T08:46:41+00:00

God it's expensive God it's shit Please regale me with examples of how other places are also shit and it's not just here

AngelicKaty · 23/10/2024 17:11

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 23/10/2024 17:02

@AngelicKaty

In fact, I'd make it law that any Boomer who calls people on benefits "scoungers" be forced to volunteer for a charity that provides services to vulnerable and less well-off people!

So you are OK with people from other generations calling people on benefits 'scroungers' then? What a strange world you live in where you only see this attitude from one generation- which - by the way is probably more likely to be the one doing the volunteering.

Why on earth do you think I would be happy with anyone calling people on benefits "scroungers"? That's a ludicrous conclusion to draw. I'M a Boomer(2) and I only ever hear fellow Boomers calling people on benefits "scroungers" - I've never heard it from other generations, but if I did, I'd condemn that too.
40% of people claiming UC are also working because their incomes are so low - employers in the UK seem to think it's OK to have their wage bills subsidised by the state.

Margorett · 23/10/2024 17:08

OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 10:18

You would have to be pretty self-centred to think this is typical

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add me and those around me to the self centred list too!

Ubertomusic · 23/10/2024 17:06

Jabtastic · 23/10/2024 16:29

I have seriously wondered about exactly this recently!

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Have a look at your bills and you won't need any bots.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 23/10/2024 17:03

Only good thing about the UK that I can think of is we’re not being bombed/shelled/ shot at. I’m grateful for that every day.
But you’re right. Everything else about the UK is shite.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 23/10/2024 17:02

@AngelicKaty

In fact, I'd make it law that any Boomer who calls people on benefits "scoungers" be forced to volunteer for a charity that provides services to vulnerable and less well-off people!

So you are OK with people from other generations calling people on benefits 'scroungers' then? What a strange world you live in where you only see this attitude from one generation- which - by the way is probably more likely to be the one doing the volunteering.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 23/10/2024 16:53

When I visited Scandanavia, I felt like I was visiting a higher world.

Where did you visit @Albaamy121 ? And how long did you stay there ?

Ic3333 · 23/10/2024 16:48

Ubertomusic · 23/10/2024 16:31

So basically let all poor and disabled die on the streets ASAP.
Nice.

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Apparently the uk’s many problem’s are down to the disabled, Sen children going to school and MH.🤣

So much ableism, fabrication and complete ignorance in that post.

VictoriaSpungecake · 23/10/2024 16:48

It's really shit if you're poor. But everywhere is shit if you're poor.

I suppose some people live in abject poverty in other parts of the world (I don't) but that doesn't make me feel it is any less shit here, because it is absolutely shite at the moment.

Labour isn't helping because their approach is so f'ing grim. When Tony Blair took over we at least felt optimistic., However, I have faith in Starmer and am willing to grin and bear it while they get the economy right so that they can fund some important societal needs in the future.

Boomer55 · 23/10/2024 16:48

My son emigrated to the US 15 years ago (married an American woman). From what he says, it’s the same there.

I think this time is pretty general in the West. 🤷‍♀️

JudgeJ · 23/10/2024 16:46

OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 10:18

You would have to be pretty self-centred to think this is typical

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No more self centred than you are claiming your experience is the norm!

Ubertomusic · 23/10/2024 16:45

coffeesaveslives · 23/10/2024 14:04

Well, quite. People talk about Sweden and Denmark but wouldn't want to pay their levels of tax!

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Friends escaped to Sweden and never looked back. Apparently they get something there in return for their taxes - we don't.

usernamealreadytaken · 23/10/2024 16:42

OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 10:35

You are. Thousands of people are waiting years in agony. The NHS needs to go and people like you stanning it are just causing needless delays (and concomitant suffering).

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My FIL, DH, both DCs and I have all very recently had fast and generally efficient service from the NHS. I was referred by GP for tests and was contacted for a hospital appointment within a week, similar for DH. I do think the model needs to change as it's expensive and many people don't get the treatment they need, but many others get the treatment they want so perhaps we need to address what the fundamental purpose is first.

rosestone19 · 23/10/2024 16:40

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Ros9 · 23/10/2024 16:39

Firsttimeagain · 23/10/2024 16:24

Not another post whingeing about the UK 🙄

Are Russian bots infiltrating MN and trying to make us all feel depressed?

Do you think they'd be so advanced to be familiar with the term 'shite'? 😅

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Sourisblanche · 23/10/2024 16:38

There are problems everywhere but you get more back for the tax you pay in NL and France in my experience - have family in both countries.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 23/10/2024 16:37

Let's just think about how much closer to power Marine Le Penn and Geert Wilders have got over the last 10 years or so and let that sink in.

Their rise in popularity would suggest that other countries in Europe are having problems too.

Sourisblanche · 23/10/2024 16:36

I used to find food in France more expensive but it’s comparable now with the UK.

We drove all over France this summer because we are buying a house and starting a business there. We found it bustling and smart and everyone seemed to be enjoying the Olympic coverage.

Savingthehedgehogs · 23/10/2024 16:33

We have visited various different countries in Europe this summer, and just back from France. I would say they are faring far worse there, it looked very run down almost everywhere. Even in the most expensive places.

It feels bigger than this country, the decline of the west. It is very worrying.

Ubertomusic · 23/10/2024 16:31

CoolNavyHelper · 23/10/2024 13:19

There are some things eating up UK budgets.

Housing: Both personal budgets but also vast amounts paid out in housing benefits. We need to bring down house prices. This would free up a lot of government money and make wages go further.
Transport costs for SEN children to schools is at risk of bankrupting many councils. No one wants to touch this as no one wants kids to suffer. But it has to be tackled and a solution must be found. The costs are astronomical.
Mental health: We are trying to provide mental health services to anyone suffering at all, which means money is spread ever more thinly, and those with serious mental health problems get a much worse service.
Social care: This should all be charged for, with a charge attached to assets when you die. If you currently do not pay for social care as your income is too low, the costs should be claimed back from your estate on death.
Disability benefits: I know they are very hard to get, I know lots of people are suffering, but disability benefits need to be reigned in. 24% of the UK population have a disability. 6.9 million people get disability benefits. The costs are spiralling. We need to maintain benefits for those with the most serious disabilities.

So basically let all poor and disabled die on the streets ASAP.
Nice.

Hatfullofwillow · 23/10/2024 16:31

I can't understand it. We've got private companies running our railways, energy, postal service, telecoms, water even our prisons. We're free to make fabulous trade deals with whoever we want. We spend less than most other countries on health, education & other public services and yet here we are.

If I didn't know better, I'd think that funneling public wealth & assets into the hands of the very wealthy & to the private corporations owned by them wasn't a sensible way to run a country.

Jabtastic · 23/10/2024 16:29

Firsttimeagain · 23/10/2024 16:24

Not another post whingeing about the UK 🙄

Are Russian bots infiltrating MN and trying to make us all feel depressed?

I have seriously wondered about exactly this recently!

Firsttimeagain · 23/10/2024 16:24

Not another post whingeing about the UK 🙄

Are Russian bots infiltrating MN and trying to make us all feel depressed?

Thisismetooaswell · 23/10/2024 16:23

OptimismvsRealism · 23/10/2024 10:15

Absolutely everything has gone up. Clothes, food, travel, accommodation. Fun. Everything. It's so extortionate compared to over the channel.

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Food is much more expensive in France than it is here

Lovelyview · 23/10/2024 16:20

I was driving along today feeling grateful I live somewhere peaceful and relatively safe with an NHS, free education, regular bin collections, a functioning democracy and all the other things we usually take for granted in this country.