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For us all to miss family wedding

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apothecarist · 23/10/2024 07:51

One of DH's siblings is getting married overseas next summer. The wedding is where the sibling's partner grew up and still has family, so understandable why they chose it.

It is quite fiddly to get to and from, however - looks like we'd arrive at the venue after midnight, having got up in the very early hours, and the wedding would then be that day. Wouldn't be the end of the world for just the two of us, but we have a toddler, and have just found out I'm pregnant and due a few weeks before the wedding.

DH decided told his sibling (apologetically) that it unfortunately wouldn't work with toddler and so we wouldn't be coming. Sibling seemed to take it ok at the time but hasn't spoken to us since. DH's parents on the other hand have said we're letting his sibling down by not making it work with toddler, who should definitely come.

We weren't planning on telling anyone about the pregnancy for a little while. I had complications last time and the scrutiny got a bit intense. But in the circumstances would it be better to come clean? And presumably if we do that they would accept us all staying at home and leave it there?

OP posts:
eastegg · 25/10/2024 14:34

FreebieWallopFridge · 24/10/2024 22:23

What UTTER rubbish

I know! Not only thinks OP should go, but that DH should then use his AL just after the birth to stay on for a week without the OP 😂

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:20

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:16

“Even” went to all their weddings, followed by sniping about hassle and expense. Kind of says it all really.

Haha. No sniping - just said 'despite' as a couple of my other siblings couldn't go to one or other due to having very young kids, not enough money to dedicate to it and complicated pregnancies. And everyone was fine with them not going because we actually like each other and are considerate enough to understand that not everyone will always be able to attend a wedding if it's very far away from where they live.

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:18

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:14

I have one son born after 5 years of fertility treatment. My husband and I love him beyond words. He is 8 years old so the newborn days are still a fairly recent memory. I have zero specific memories of any given week after he was born, and (like most fathers) my husband was back at work when he was 3 weeks old so any memories he has of that time are only evenings and weekends!

And yet the OP has said her DH doesn't want to miss this time. Once more, it's her baby, his sibling, he's prioritising her and the baby so your experience isn't relevant in this case.
Memories aren't always the point - immersion in a new life is.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:16

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:14

No, I like them and even went to all their weddings despite some being a real hassle in that they were extremely expensive and difficult to get to. In fact, I like them so much that if one of them was having a baby far away at a time I was getting married I'd encourage them to spend time with the baby rather than come to my wedding.

“Even” went to all their weddings, followed by sniping about hassle and expense. Kind of says it all really.

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:16

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:12

Utter bullshit that having a week away from a newborn child stops you bonding with them.

???? Didn't say that. Did say that for many people it's a really important bonding time.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:14

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:11

You must really dislike your kids

I have one son born after 5 years of fertility treatment. My husband and I love him beyond words. He is 8 years old so the newborn days are still a fairly recent memory. I have zero specific memories of any given week after he was born, and (like most fathers) my husband was back at work when he was 3 weeks old so any memories he has of that time are only evenings and weekends!

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:14

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:31

You must really dislike your siblings.

No, I like them and even went to all their weddings despite some being a real hassle in that they were extremely expensive and difficult to get to. In fact, I like them so much that if one of them was having a baby far away at a time I was getting married I'd encourage them to spend time with the baby rather than come to my wedding.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:12

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:09

I think that for many many people the memory of a week with a newborn baby is more important than the memory of a wedding, and I'm not silly. For many people it's a deeply profound and almost sacred time of welcoming a whole new person into the world, of helping them adjust to life, of holding them and caring for them and helping their sibling (in this case) come to terms with this huge change. It far far trumps spending a week travelling to and from a party to formalise a sibling's relationship.

42% of all UK marriages end in divorce anyway, 51% of children are born outside marriage so what exactly is being celebrated at a wedding that makes it so massively important? It's a glorified party to formalise two people's (intended) commitment to one another and their legal entanglement. Weddings can be lovely, and very meaningful and important for the people getting married but they're not even vaguely as important as bonding with someone you have brought into the world and will be responsible for for the rest of your life!

Utter bullshit that having a week away from a newborn child stops you bonding with them.

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:11

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:31

You must really dislike your siblings.

You must really dislike your kids

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 14:09

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:29

I have had both a wedding and a baby and stand by the comparison. We’re not taking about the birth, just a week in the life of a non-verbal infant who will not remember a thing about that week. In the age of video calling. And nobody is saying OP should attend.

Fine to focus on the fact that OP may need practical help and emotional support. But to claim that the memory of a wedding is less significant than the memory of a week with a newborn baby is just silly.

I think that for many many people the memory of a week with a newborn baby is more important than the memory of a wedding, and I'm not silly. For many people it's a deeply profound and almost sacred time of welcoming a whole new person into the world, of helping them adjust to life, of holding them and caring for them and helping their sibling (in this case) come to terms with this huge change. It far far trumps spending a week travelling to and from a party to formalise a sibling's relationship.

42% of all UK marriages end in divorce anyway, 51% of children are born outside marriage so what exactly is being celebrated at a wedding that makes it so massively important? It's a glorified party to formalise two people's (intended) commitment to one another and their legal entanglement. Weddings can be lovely, and very meaningful and important for the people getting married but they're not even vaguely as important as bonding with someone you have brought into the world and will be responsible for for the rest of your life!

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 14:03

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:02

Still assuming it’s a bride and groom?

oh Sorry we now need to get into if it’s bride and bride or groom and groom or a them and they. 🙄

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:02

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 14:01

My mistake. I must of read someone else call
it her dhs brother and it just stuck.

Either way the bride or groom made a choice on which side where the most important to attend and it was not the dh’s sibling.

Still assuming it’s a bride and groom?

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 14:01

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:00

There is nothing in any of OP’s posts that says that the DH’s sibling is male, or that the DP who grew up outside the UK is a woman.

My mistake. I must of read someone else call
it her dhs brother and it just stuck.

Either way the bride or groom made a choice on which side where the most important to attend and it was not the dh’s sibling.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 14:00

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 13:56

I mean they are just words. Signing the contract is the legal legal part. Just sitting down singing papers confirming it and even then it can be simply annulled if you don’t have sex 😮 so so important are the words that no sex makes them not count.

Yes indeed so one sides family was always going to be less important in this case. The groom decided his were less important than the brides. That’s their choice.

There is nothing in any of OP’s posts that says that the DH’s sibling is male, or that the DP who grew up outside the UK is a woman.

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 13:56

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:54

The “I do” bit is not just words you know. And at least it IS actual words and profound emotion, unlike the meaningless gurgles of an infant.

Did you miss that half of the couple was brought up in the wedding location? The couple were never going to be able to make it equally easy for both of their families. We know nothing at all about the balancing act they had to perform.

I mean they are just words. Signing the contract is the legal legal part. Just sitting down singing papers confirming it and even then it can be simply annulled if you don’t have sex 😮 so so important are the words that no sex makes them not count.

Yes indeed so one sides family was always going to be less important in this case. The groom decided his were less important than the brides. That’s their choice.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:54

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 13:38

Oh come on. A siblings wedding is just a wedding. It’s a I do followed by a party.

Also spin it. The brother can’t really care about his siblings attendance since they decided to hold it in a difficult to access location. Must not like his siblings much huh.

The “I do” bit is not just words you know. And at least it IS actual words and profound emotion, unlike the meaningless gurgles of an infant.

Did you miss that half of the couple was brought up in the wedding location? The couple were never going to be able to make it equally easy for both of their families. We know nothing at all about the balancing act they had to perform.

Round3HereWeGo · 25/10/2024 13:42

Some of these responses are batshit. Wedding does not trump time at home with a newborn, a confused toddler and a mum thats just had her body fucked up. Having a baby is the biggest life event with the whole new life and all.

These days a wedding is just a big party anyway - flippant but true - as couples already act married long before the wedding, living together etc.

I adore my siblings but wouldn't even consider going if I was OPs DH. Of course any other time in life it would be a priority but not a few weeks after a new baby.

Wellingtonspie · 25/10/2024 13:38

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:31

You must really dislike your siblings.

Oh come on. A siblings wedding is just a wedding. It’s a I do followed by a party.

Also spin it. The brother can’t really care about his siblings attendance since they decided to hold it in a difficult to access location. Must not like his siblings much huh.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:31

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 13:18

A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.
Of course it is! A week of a baby being newborn can be a hugely important memory, and certainly more memorable than a sibling's wedding

You must really dislike your siblings.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:29

Savingthehedgehogs · 25/10/2024 13:21

It’s astonishing to even to compare the birth of an actual baby with a wedding! A newborn is only new born for 12 weeks! Even if they could fly without jabs and op could walk miles around the airport after a c section!

I have had both a wedding and a baby and stand by the comparison. We’re not taking about the birth, just a week in the life of a non-verbal infant who will not remember a thing about that week. In the age of video calling. And nobody is saying OP should attend.

Fine to focus on the fact that OP may need practical help and emotional support. But to claim that the memory of a wedding is less significant than the memory of a week with a newborn baby is just silly.

Savingthehedgehogs · 25/10/2024 13:21

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 13:18

A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.
Of course it is! A week of a baby being newborn can be a hugely important memory, and certainly more memorable than a sibling's wedding

It’s astonishing to even to compare the birth of an actual baby with a wedding! A newborn is only new born for 12 weeks! Even if they could fly without jabs and op could walk miles around the airport after a c section!

independencefreedom · 25/10/2024 13:18

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:04

The baby will be a newborn once. He wants to be there for it, have all the memories and photos and stories to talk about for years. He shouldn't be missing a week and a half of it to attend the siblings one day event.

That’s crackers. A wedding is hopefully a once-in-a-lifetime event for the couple. A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.

Look, I am not saying that the husband should attend the wedding. It sounds like the date will fall at a time when it is simply not practical for him to do so. However I do find it ridiculous that people are trying to minimise the fact that missing your sibling’s wedding is a big deal. It’s quite alright for everyone to feel sadness and regret that he won’t be able to make it, and to be open about that. That is not mutually incompatible with accepting that he can’t be there and not insisting that he find a way. Sometimes clashes happens between two very important things and the solution is not to just pretend that one of them was never important.

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A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.
Of course it is! A week of a baby being newborn can be a hugely important memory, and certainly more memorable than a sibling's wedding

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:14

FlyingHighFlyingLow · 25/10/2024 13:12

It is a big deal that he's missing his siblings wedding. But the way the wedding was planned means he can't attend as leaving his family to attend the wedding would be bigger deal. They've clashed, he's prioritised correctly. They need to explain to his family and if they're reasonable they'll understand.

Yes, that’s what I said.

FlyingHighFlyingLow · 25/10/2024 13:12

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:04

The baby will be a newborn once. He wants to be there for it, have all the memories and photos and stories to talk about for years. He shouldn't be missing a week and a half of it to attend the siblings one day event.

That’s crackers. A wedding is hopefully a once-in-a-lifetime event for the couple. A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.

Look, I am not saying that the husband should attend the wedding. It sounds like the date will fall at a time when it is simply not practical for him to do so. However I do find it ridiculous that people are trying to minimise the fact that missing your sibling’s wedding is a big deal. It’s quite alright for everyone to feel sadness and regret that he won’t be able to make it, and to be open about that. That is not mutually incompatible with accepting that he can’t be there and not insisting that he find a way. Sometimes clashes happens between two very important things and the solution is not to just pretend that one of them was never important.

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It is a big deal that he's missing his siblings wedding. But the way the wedding was planned means he can't attend as leaving his family to attend the wedding would be bigger deal. They've clashed, he's prioritised correctly. They need to explain to his family and if they're reasonable they'll understand.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/10/2024 13:04

The baby will be a newborn once. He wants to be there for it, have all the memories and photos and stories to talk about for years. He shouldn't be missing a week and a half of it to attend the siblings one day event.

That’s crackers. A wedding is hopefully a once-in-a-lifetime event for the couple. A week of a baby being a newborn is nether here nor there in terms of memories.

Look, I am not saying that the husband should attend the wedding. It sounds like the date will fall at a time when it is simply not practical for him to do so. However I do find it ridiculous that people are trying to minimise the fact that missing your sibling’s wedding is a big deal. It’s quite alright for everyone to feel sadness and regret that he won’t be able to make it, and to be open about that. That is not mutually incompatible with accepting that he can’t be there and not insisting that he find a way. Sometimes clashes happens between two very important things and the solution is not to just pretend that one of them was never important.