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King charles Heckled in Australia

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Albaamy121 · 22/10/2024 23:16

Did anyone see that King Charles was heckled in Australia this week by an Australian senator, Lidia Thorpe.

She shouted at him "you are not my King, this is not your land, you have stolen our land".

Any thoughts?

I didn't see any thread on it, so I started this one.

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 11:33

NoisyDenimShaker · 23/10/2024 11:26

I don't think Britain should apologise for its history because it would make us look weak on the world stage. Nobody alive today had anything to do with any of it. Colonisation is part of history. Most people don't spend their time with a huge chip on their shoulder about the past; it's a small but vocal minority who live in the past and wants to bully Britain into flagellating itself in order to humiliate it.

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A recent German prime minister apologised for Nazi atrocities. It hasn't made Germany look weak.
Germany economy is very strong.

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 11:32

NoisyDenimShaker · 23/10/2024 11:26

I don't think Britain should apologise for its history because it would make us look weak on the world stage. Nobody alive today had anything to do with any of it. Colonisation is part of history. Most people don't spend their time with a huge chip on their shoulder about the past; it's a small but vocal minority who live in the past and wants to bully Britain into flagellating itself in order to humiliate it.

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Its never easy to apologise or admit that you've done anything wrong.

I think the King should acknowledge some things though

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 11:30

Renamedyetagain · 23/10/2024 06:37

I thought you said it was because King of the United Kingdom was too long to say 🙄

Am Scottish and anti monarchy btw, but it pisses me off that you've taken a point and pretended it's yours all along. Your ignorance shines through on this thread. How old are you? Do some bloody reading.

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Your ignorance and nastiness actually shines through strongly, if you think that a person can only think one thing about a topic.

I thought both things.

I thought that she said "king of England" as I have heard people say that in other countries, and I believe they say that,

as it is less of a mouthful than the longer term "king of the United kingdom". I've never heard proper say "King of the United Kingdom". They say "King of England"

I also think that she may have used the term king of England, as she has repeatedly call him a coloniser, and she maybe doesn't see him as a king of other countries.

I thought it. But another poster posted the second part, before I did. And I said that I agreed with her..

Im not sure why you think people can only think one thing about a topic. That was an ignorant and strange post of yours.

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NoisyDenimShaker · 23/10/2024 11:26

I don't think Britain should apologise for its history because it would make us look weak on the world stage. Nobody alive today had anything to do with any of it. Colonisation is part of history. Most people don't spend their time with a huge chip on their shoulder about the past; it's a small but vocal minority who live in the past and wants to bully Britain into flagellating itself in order to humiliate it.

Westea · 23/10/2024 11:22

@EverybodyLovesString

One letter does not prove that indigneous people were officially classified as fauna - an urban myth rejected by indigneous scholars - which is the point I have been making the entire time.

They weren't officially classed as fauna, but they were treated as such. The letter excerpt illustrated how colonists thought of indigenous people - although this letter was more complimentary than most as it was in the vein of wildlife protection. He was saddened to see fewer native flowers, bees, platypuses and aborigines in his daily walks. Do you see what I'm getting at?

NoisyDenimShaker · 23/10/2024 11:12

Lavenderfarmcottage · 23/10/2024 03:56

** case in point Carole Middleton - I think here if you were a flight attendant and started a (for the most part) successful business and bought a multi million dollar house, educated your children well, you’d be very well respected for that. You’d definitely not be admonished for a lack of title or your house not being old enough.

Most people do respect the Middletons for that. Snobby headlines in the Mail don't reflect the majority of people.

KnottedTwine · 23/10/2024 10:50

The Greens in Aus are clearly every bit as unhinged as the Greens in Scotland.

category12 · 23/10/2024 10:00

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 09:05

Take it from someone that knows, money doesn’t change a cancer prognosis or change the effects from surgery, have a bit of a heart and just stop please, you could be doing so many things instead your arguing somebody’s cancer wasn’t that bad.

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I'm not arguing it's not bad.

But wealth and status smooth the way where Joe Bloggs has to manage on his own. You can't compare someone on just his state pension trying to get to hospital appointments by bus etc and say the King doesn't have it easier. 🙄

Whether he should be doing what he's doing is a different question.

If Charles is not well enough to be doing his public duties, which IMO include being heckled by discontent people, then he shouldn't be there.

Let him retire, abdicate, stop public duties, whatever, if he's not fit.

justasking111 · 23/10/2024 09:23

EasternStandard · 23/10/2024 08:09

This doesn’t show much. You already have one of the most hardline approaches in place

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I thought that the coastguard, border controls are very well funded and efficient.

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 09:05

category12 · 23/10/2024 07:29

There's lots of elderly men battling cancer. This particular one has immense wealth and privilege and the best possible care, and has lived a long and pampered life.

I'm sure he's heard worse.

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Take it from someone that knows, money doesn’t change a cancer prognosis or change the effects from surgery, have a bit of a heart and just stop please, you could be doing so many things instead your arguing somebody’s cancer wasn’t that bad.

Cookiecrumblepie · 23/10/2024 08:50

Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 01:47

For God's sake: stop with the racist BULLYING. If you KNOW your world history, throughout ALL of HISTORY - for EONS ALL countries/peoples/conquerers have taken over other lands; those being taken over are not always treated well! Tribes from ALL continents have been fighting other tribes for centuries; Nazi Germans vs Jews.

MOVE ON world.

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True, but people have a right to say something don’t they? They don’t have to move on just because you want them to. If they don’t know their grandparents because they’re part of the stolen generation for example why can’t they have feelings about it and say something?

StartupRepair · 23/10/2024 08:30

@LateAF please don't use the word 'natives' to refer to Aboriginal or First Nations people.

EasternStandard · 23/10/2024 08:14

Fraaahnces · 23/10/2024 08:10

@EasternStandard Why do you think I don’t do anything about this? My comment was an explanation for why Senator Lidia Thorpe’s vehement response to the royals had validity.
If you must know, I work in the arts and in regional health. I work with, for and among amazing Indiginous Australians and use my votes carefully every single time.

My posts are more directed at a general you as in voters in Aus

All the changes people want can happen but it’s more within your gift (general population) than anyone else

That includes becoming a republic if wanted

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 08:10

LateAF · 23/10/2024 08:09

Cool story. You may have experienced xenophobia - doesn’t mean you’re not white. But perhaps you should try have some empathy for and understanding of the experiences of ethnic minorities and natives in Australia.

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Hello, Brexit.

Fraaahnces · 23/10/2024 08:10

@EasternStandard Why do you think I don’t do anything about this? My comment was an explanation for why Senator Lidia Thorpe’s vehement response to the royals had validity.
If you must know, I work in the arts and in regional health. I work with, for and among amazing Indiginous Australians and use my votes carefully every single time.

EasternStandard · 23/10/2024 08:09

Ozgirl75 · 22/10/2024 23:31

lol, no. Australia is extremely multi cultural and certainly no more racist than the U.K. Of course there are some racists, but nothing like the scale of people who voted Reform.

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This doesn’t show much. You already have one of the most hardline approaches in place

LateAF · 23/10/2024 08:09

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 08:07

Let me put it like this. I have been told "Go back where you came from." HTH

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Cool story. You may have experienced xenophobia - doesn’t mean you’re not white. But perhaps you should try have some empathy for and understanding of the experiences of ethnic minorities and natives in Australia.

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 08:07

LateAF · 23/10/2024 08:06

If you weren’t white you would say. If you weren’t white you wouldn’t suggest Australia’s not racist. You sound racist - I’d take deranged over that.

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Let me put it like this. I have been told "Go back where you came from." HTH

LateAF · 23/10/2024 08:06

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 08:05

What? My ethnicity is none of your business. You sound deranged.

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If you weren’t white you would say. If you weren’t white you wouldn’t suggest Australia’s not racist. You sound racist - I’d take deranged over that.

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 08:05

LateAF · 23/10/2024 07:59

So you’re not an ethnic minority then 😂 please don’t go telling me which country is more racist from “your experience” because quite frankly you don’t have a clue

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What? My ethnicity is none of your business. You sound deranged.

LateAF · 23/10/2024 08:04

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 07:22

The Pale Blue Eye - Wikipedia

It's a film about Edgar Allan Poe.

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I’m actually pissed off and offended by the white people on here trying to deny that a country that killed off its native population for sport is not racist. It’s hugely offensive and diminishes the atrocities committed by white people in Australia that still pervade and influence the social, racial and cultural balance of the country.

Stop commenting on your experience racism if you’re white - you don’t know and you’d do better to shut up and learn.

LateAF · 23/10/2024 07:59

paleblueeye · 23/10/2024 07:22

The Pale Blue Eye - Wikipedia

It's a film about Edgar Allan Poe.

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So you’re not an ethnic minority then 😂 please don’t go telling me which country is more racist from “your experience” because quite frankly you don’t have a clue

KnottedTwine · 23/10/2024 07:37

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 00:26

Yeah I was thinking that too.

She probably said King of England, as she doesn't see him as King of Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland.

That they are forced colonies of his

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Well as a Scottish person she has no right to speak for me on that topic or represent what she assumes we're all thinking.

Stupid woman.

OneDandyPoet · 23/10/2024 07:34

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