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To wonder if yoga is becoming less popular now?

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GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 14:10

I have been practicing for 8 years. We had one local class, a kind of fast ashtanga with a pretty dire teacher for a few years, which I stopped attending after 6 months.
Around 2019 our local class count grew to around 5, mostly nameless types which just endlessly went through sun salutations for an hour.

The popularity seemed to grow rapidly through lockdowns and has now petered out altogether. The original class finally shut it's doors a few weeks ago. No one here seems to be bothered anymore.

Has anyone else noticed this?
I know a lot of these things are prone to fashion and fads, but I do sense a general drop in interest all around in the past year or so. Online spaces that chat about yoga seem less lively too.

I am wondering if there is a new thing people are getting in to, perhaps?
I asked two people that I am familiar with why they stopped going to classes, and one said she had a small knee injury that grew worse with her teacher's instruction to ease it.
The other said she felt more at home with pilates.

Anyone else noticed it?

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greengreyblue · 22/10/2024 17:53

Allfur · 22/10/2024 17:45

If you can't bend over without farting, there may be something wrong with your diet

It’s the time of day of classes though. In my area it’s 7 pm ish so it’s a bit tricky after dinner! I have a healthy diet but eat lots of fibre and veg .😂

Allfur · 22/10/2024 17:45

PlayDadiFreyr · 22/10/2024 16:13

In person yoga is just an exercise in trying not to fart in front of someone's face. It's a no from me, I save that for my husband.

If you can't bend over without farting, there may be something wrong with your diet

HangingOver · 22/10/2024 17:43

The area is saturated round here. It's a hippy part of the country with millions of yoga teachers so they struggle to fill their classes.

Lemonadeand · 22/10/2024 17:41

Is it that there are so many teachers and classes now that they exceed the demand?

Yogateacherherehello · 22/10/2024 17:38

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 16:31

Interesting to hear people mention bad teachers or issues from yoga. I would love to learn more about that. Are people becoming more aware of it now compared to previously?

How is focusing on flexibility dangerous? Perhaps if it is to the exclusion of strength then yes, it would be.

I must admit that over the years I get less of a buzz from my practice. I used to always feel invigorated or deeply relaxed after a session, but it feels a little flat this past year. I do add new things to keep it fresh but I feel a bit sad that something has kind of 'worn off' and it doesn't excite me as much anymore.

I still keep at it as I love the strength and physical 'certainty' that I feel with a regular practice.

I teach yoga and my aim is to help people improve their mobility and strength rather than flexibility alone. This means engaging muscle groups rather than stretching in an unfocused/floppy way.

Not all teachers have had the anatomy and physiology training to understand this though.
I only teach a few classes a week and the one I run and publicise myself is very popular. The other drop-in class, run by the local authority, less so.

There's been an explosion in the number of yoga teacher training courses over the last few years and, as a result, there a lot more teachers, not all of them good nor authentic.

Thereshegoess · 22/10/2024 17:25

Depends where you are I think. The studio I go to in London (not central), runs 50+ Yoga classes a week, all different types/levels. The couple I regularly go to are always fully booked (22 per class). I also went to a leisure centre gym for a little while where the Yoga classes always seemed to be fully booked too.

The plus side of the place I go to is there are so many teachers/types you can try and find a style you like and teachers you gel with. I tried a teacher I hadn’t tried before the other day as I couldn’t attend my regular class time and hated every second of it. Far too advanced despite being an all levels Vinyasa class and offered 0 modifications and seemed visibly irritated at the fact I couldn’t do some of what she was asking. If she was the only teacher there I’d have never returned. I wonder if that’s the case in smaller areas = less teachers = less people able to get into it because there’s less opportunity to love it.

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 17:21

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 22/10/2024 17:10

I used to do Ashtanga yoga at the Triyoga near my office, but post-Covid we all stuck with WFH and I found a lovely small class in a local community centre.

The teacher always asks about injuries, offers variations and props & goes round checking on everyone, and varies the practice according to the moon cycle - at the full & new moon times we do moon salutations & restorative / yin yoga, at other times it’s vinyasa. It’s much more fun than the Ashtanga classes were.

For strength I’ve got weightlifting at the local gym.

sounds lovely

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EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 22/10/2024 17:10

I used to do Ashtanga yoga at the Triyoga near my office, but post-Covid we all stuck with WFH and I found a lovely small class in a local community centre.

The teacher always asks about injuries, offers variations and props & goes round checking on everyone, and varies the practice according to the moon cycle - at the full & new moon times we do moon salutations & restorative / yin yoga, at other times it’s vinyasa. It’s much more fun than the Ashtanga classes were.

For strength I’ve got weightlifting at the local gym.

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 17:09

I also think a lot of the youtuber favourites over use downward dog, too. It's a great transitional asana for me, but am a bit tired of the same old stuff online. I do prefer a more traditional Hatha approach though.

Agree about the market filling up with new ventures and businesses. I have been self employed for 17 years and it's actually taken a dive since covid, so I suppose I've seen the dark side of that. So much more competition in general.

The yoga teachers that worked in my area were pretty awful. I recall one woman not being able to do downward dog without pain and she repeated asked the teacher for tips. At the end of a class where I was still packing up I overheard her telling the student to keep. pushing it and work through the pain Shock

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biedrona · 22/10/2024 17:01

OkyDoke · 22/10/2024 16:46

Can anyone recommend any YouTube channels for pilates please?

Jessica Valante pilates YouTube

biedrona · 22/10/2024 16:58

I used to be into yoga myself but encountered so many teachers who, as you say, just do sun salutations all hour long and want to charge £20 per hour. I prefer mat pilates as it is a lot better for my back, hips, etc.

toomanydicksonthedancefloor1 · 22/10/2024 16:56

I started practising about 4 years ago, just from home with YouTube and I still love it now, also do HIIT and cycling. I don't think it has got less popular. During Covid I think a lot of people reevaluated their lives and lifestyles and people setting up small businesses and going self employed has sky rocketed. My Next Door app is absolutely littered with handy men, yoga classes, MLMs, nail technicians, dog walkers, baby sitters, cat sitters, house sitters, people trying to sell crap crafty stuff. I think they have a very rose tinted view of what being a business owner involves though and I do believe it will die off when people return to normal employment when they realise it isn't as easy as it appears.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 22/10/2024 16:54

It’s too expensive for me now at a small local studio (has won awards). I can do it online for free.

Pilates has been pushed more locally for backs and strength work.

Delatron · 22/10/2024 16:52

PaminaMozart · 22/10/2024 16:50

I prefer weight training with (heavy) dumbbells over pilates. More straightforward and effective I think. Try Caroline Girvan...

But I also do a lot of yoga-type stretching, courtesy of Kassandra and Livingleggings. Add in Growingannanas for HIIT and I'm sorted. At 70 I'm not doing too badly...

It doesn’t need to be either or. I do more strength training with heavy weights for sure but Pilates helps my back and core.

Pilates hits the smaller muscles that we don’t work in the gym. And loads of posture work.

bryceQ · 22/10/2024 16:52

I also think many current yoga teacher training courses are very poor and you have people qualifying without the required knowledge to teach safely.

bryceQ · 22/10/2024 16:51

I have a yoga studio, our revenue is higher than ever. There are more teachers locally than ever before but many struggle to build sustainable classes. The marketing side is really time consuming now especially with so much competition. I think people have a view that it's a nice job and don't realise how labour intensive it is.

I see a lot more fusion classes with pilates, Qi Gong, breathwork, sound bowls etc. I think we are getting further and further from yogic tradition but that's a different discussion.

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 22/10/2024 16:51

Delatron · 22/10/2024 16:42

I think with the wrong instructor pushing someone in to a position that is beyond their flexibility can cause issues. Torn muscles for example.

Also, everyone has a personal level of flexibility. If you could never touch your toes then that’s fine. Just maintain what is normal for you.

Occasionally in yoga you get super flexible people (who are just born like that so not really impressive) and that seems to be the goal with advanced poses.

In Pilates you just need to be strong to get to the advanced levels. And strength is more important than being super flexible. Flexibility without strength to back it up is not good. It’s just hyper mobility.

This is why proper instruction is important, your instructor should tell you which muscles to engage in the postures and should encourage you to prioritise alignment over depth. I remind people that their less flexible side is their stronger side 😊.

I've been practicing for 17 years and did yoga teacher training earlier this year. I'm now teaching 1-2 classes a week alongside my regular job. I love connecting with people. I know some people are put off by the spiritual side of yoga but that's a big draw for me, it really helps me regulate my moods and overall mental health. I love that moment at the end of the class when people open their eyes after savasana and you can feel the calm in the room 🧘‍♀️

He11oKitty · 22/10/2024 16:50

I used to go to yoga where I lived before but moved here and haven’t found a class I liked. Some were too “spiritual” ie chanting and incense, really not for me. Others were not super helpful for me, I have injuries and I can’t do some poses and they were a bit sniffy about it. I don’t want to damage my body and I don’t want a hyper competitive “push yourself to the limit” space, I get enough of that at work! One had a creepy man instructor who kept touching my body in a way I find hard to articulate but felt uncomfortable.

the yin yoga class I used to go to was soooo good, and I miss it a lot! The instructor put on modern music like lana del ray etc and was really chilled out and just told us to “relax into the pose” and would tell us off for trying to hard! (In yin yoga you hold a pose for ages). I may have had a platonic crush on her. It was full of type A people trying to relax and it was so theraputic, plus I did get stronger and more flexible. It felt like such a companionable space.

I do need to do something though 😆

PaminaMozart · 22/10/2024 16:50

I prefer weight training with (heavy) dumbbells over pilates. More straightforward and effective I think. Try Caroline Girvan...

But I also do a lot of yoga-type stretching, courtesy of Kassandra and Livingleggings. Add in Growingannanas for HIIT and I'm sorted. At 70 I'm not doing too badly...

Idontlikeyou · 22/10/2024 16:47

Plenty of both here (rural area), many yoga classes, mat Pilates and a new Reformer Pilates studio has opened.

I recently started a yoga class but had to abandon due to a non Yoga injury but will restart next year. I like the meditative side.

I also really like mat Pilates and used to do it regularly. But they have different breathing and I get very confused between the two.

But plenty of choice to be had.

OkyDoke · 22/10/2024 16:46

Can anyone recommend any YouTube channels for pilates please?

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 16:46

I would be interested in the mat pilates, so shall look into that.

Thanks for the explanations!

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greengreyblue · 22/10/2024 16:44

Oh have never heard of Pilates with machines! I’ve been to several classes and it was similar to yoga.

Delatron · 22/10/2024 16:42

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 16:31

Interesting to hear people mention bad teachers or issues from yoga. I would love to learn more about that. Are people becoming more aware of it now compared to previously?

How is focusing on flexibility dangerous? Perhaps if it is to the exclusion of strength then yes, it would be.

I must admit that over the years I get less of a buzz from my practice. I used to always feel invigorated or deeply relaxed after a session, but it feels a little flat this past year. I do add new things to keep it fresh but I feel a bit sad that something has kind of 'worn off' and it doesn't excite me as much anymore.

I still keep at it as I love the strength and physical 'certainty' that I feel with a regular practice.

I think with the wrong instructor pushing someone in to a position that is beyond their flexibility can cause issues. Torn muscles for example.

Also, everyone has a personal level of flexibility. If you could never touch your toes then that’s fine. Just maintain what is normal for you.

Occasionally in yoga you get super flexible people (who are just born like that so not really impressive) and that seems to be the goal with advanced poses.

In Pilates you just need to be strong to get to the advanced levels. And strength is more important than being super flexible. Flexibility without strength to back it up is not good. It’s just hyper mobility.

Delatron · 22/10/2024 16:37

GardenDreams · 22/10/2024 16:24

Here we are, the 'machines'. Perhaps it is an esoteric type of pilates that mumsnet hasn't heard of Grin

Yes reformer Pilates is Pilates. There’s mat Pilates and reformer.

Reformer Pilates is still a classical version of Pilates as taught by Joseph Pilates. But there really should not be these huge classes with loads of reformers - they can be dangerous and need a lot of attention from the instructor to make sure people are doing it right.

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