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Is this harassment?

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HiImNewE · 22/10/2024 12:06

Okay so i went out on 5 dates with much older man ( im mentioning this as maybe it's just what men in his generation do ?)

I wasn't feeling it and tried to end it but he'd send flowers and get in touch other ways when i blocked him . And convince me to give him another chance

So i decided to tell him a lie that i met someone else . He became very angry and send me letter to my address being all sarcastic, cocky saying i should of waited to "break up " ( he was never my man , it was just handful of dates
As he purchased some expensive jewellery for me ( it's insulting to me , no amount of jewellery will make me change my mind i'm
not for sale

He proceeded to bash my character and call me cheater and liar . How can i cheat on a man who was never mine ?

I got few flowers from him too . I'm worried and regret letting him know my address. I don't want letters and flowers

So he called me liar and cheater , bashed my character in letters as he is blocked and send flowers .

Should i be worried ? he sounded unhinged. Or is this just what men reaching 60 do as its different generation?

I live with my 7yo daughter and don't want him showing up at my place

Even though he lives 30 mins drive away i saw him in my local Sainsbury's other day

he can shop anywhere he likes but i am worried he came to try and bump into me

Dunno what to do now , any advice ladies ? x

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Ihearyounow · 30/11/2024 08:25

I've just been to a talk about stalking and thr police officer said that the aim of the perpetrator is to keep in the victims yeeline and head, he is doing this with flowers, gifts etc and will escalate so please report every incident.

Donkeyfromshrek · 30/11/2024 07:49

Is he still contacting you? I wouldn't give up on the police. Tell them every time you receive something from him. This is definitely something they should be dealing with.

VenusStarr · 29/11/2024 21:01

I'm sorry the police haven't taken this seriously @HiImNewE this website has some useful information, including a link to the Suzy Lamplugh Trust - it might be worth talking to them too? www.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/sh/stalking-harassment/what-is-stalking-harassment/
This contact by him is unwanted and does constitute harassment. Keep a record of everything and keep trying the police. You have been very clear you don't want to have anything to do with him.
If you are feeling anxious and panicky, it might also be worth speaking with a mental health practitioner, you can usually see someone at your GP surgery. X

Jaehee · 29/11/2024 20:40

Stop contacting him! This is what he wants! And don't contact the flower shop, his work or try to intervene in any other way.

Block him and keep him blocked. If he sends you anything else, make a note of the date and take a photo. Any kind of communication or unusual phone calls, screenshot/photograph them and make a note.

If he turns up at your house DO NOT open the door or speak to him. Call 999 and tell them a man who has been stalking you has turned up at your home and you are afraid. Likewise if he approaches you in the street. It's a game, just stop playing.

1clavdivs · 29/11/2024 20:37

This is my professional area. Some of the advice you've been given on this thread will increase risk and undermine a criminal case, so please contact the National Stalking Helpline (run by the Suzy Lamplugh Trust). They can assign a caseworker who can advocate with the police and go through a detailed safety plan. In the meantime:

  • It's not harassment, it's stalking. When you speak to the police, keep using this word
  • Do not contact him or respond to him in any way, even to tell him to stop. Keep all evidence and a log of all the contact you receive from him. The police will need to see all contact is one way only. If they say you have to tell him to stop, this is a myth and more than once I've seen this used to undermine a case further down the line
  • If you're blocking him, do not block him everywhere; keep one avenue of communication only (but do not respond)
  • If the police offer to talk to him or give him a caution, do not accept and ask them to investigate properly
  • Report every incident to police and quote the original crime reference number, so the course of conduct can be identified.

The Helpline will be open again on Monday. I'd call them and ask for an advocate as the police are not actioning your reports.

B0RING · 29/11/2024 20:23

@HiImNewE please understand , he is doing all these things to get a reaction from you. So he does 5 things and you react, he knows just how many times he needs to harass you to get what he wants.

Its very VERY important that you dont

contact the florist
go to his work
put anything in writing
warn him
have anyone else speak to him
threaten him
return any gifts

unless of course you are told to do that by SL trust.

Don’t waste your time doing a Claire’s law request , if he is a dentist he can’t have any convictions like that .

HiImNewE · 29/11/2024 20:12

Whowhatwhere21 · 29/11/2024 19:12

Do you know the name of the company that delivered the flowers?? Could you get someone you know to call him claiming to be from the flower company and just say that they attempted delivery but unfortunately the delivery person was told the person the flowers are for moved out of the address a few weeks a go?

what?

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Balloonhearts · 29/11/2024 19:33

Whowhatwhere21 · 29/11/2024 19:12

Do you know the name of the company that delivered the flowers?? Could you get someone you know to call him claiming to be from the flower company and just say that they attempted delivery but unfortunately the delivery person was told the person the flowers are for moved out of the address a few weeks a go?

I'd be worried he would turn up on the doorstep if she does that.

DanceMoveGrooveAndShoutIt · 29/11/2024 19:33

Whowhatwhere21 · 29/11/2024 19:12

Do you know the name of the company that delivered the flowers?? Could you get someone you know to call him claiming to be from the flower company and just say that they attempted delivery but unfortunately the delivery person was told the person the flowers are for moved out of the address a few weeks a go?

Don't muck around playing stupid pretend games. Do not engage.

Whowhatwhere21 · 29/11/2024 19:12

Do you know the name of the company that delivered the flowers?? Could you get someone you know to call him claiming to be from the flower company and just say that they attempted delivery but unfortunately the delivery person was told the person the flowers are for moved out of the address a few weeks a go?

PossiblyPertunia · 29/11/2024 19:05

I would do a Claire's law request to the police! If he flashes up on that, they will take you very seriously!

LittleGreenDragons · 29/11/2024 19:04

I agree with pp, please contact the Suzy Lamplugh Trust ASAP. They have issued a super complaint against all UK police forces for not talking stalking seriously enough. They will help and support you with reporting this. Don't ignore this problem as it won't go away.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/27/stalking-victims-left-at-serious-risk-by-police-failures-report-finds

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 29/11/2024 18:53

No no no

There was a total twat on your thread saying some foul stuff.
I was talking to them but their posts have now been deleted

NippyCrab · 29/11/2024 18:49

HiImNewE · 29/11/2024 18:48

so it's my fault?

No the person who's comments have been deleted not you. Xx

HiImNewE · 29/11/2024 18:48

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 29/11/2024 18:27

Ah. You're a twat. I was wondering.

so it's my fault?

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 29/11/2024 18:27

Ah. You're a twat. I was wondering.

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"You've dates no one stale beef flaps she should be grateful end of"

What?

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EBearhug · 29/11/2024 18:01

It's not a generational thing. I'm in my 50s, and I've dated plenty of men round this age. Usually, they take no for an answer and don't harass you. This guy is being a creepy stalker.

B0RING · 29/11/2024 18:01

@HiImNewE

You’ve had some good advice here and you need to listen to it . Thsi is what I think you should do .

Write a very factual timeline , just facts . Cut out all the Drama and comments that make you look a bit unhinged ( the flowers are ugly, is it because he’s 60 / black / whatever). . Just put the dates in order like this

12 august - met online on this app
14 august - exchanged emails / phone numbers
20 August - went to date to X

etc .

Tomorrow o please phone this charity and ask for their advice .

https://www.suzylamplugh.org/

In the meantime do NOTHING to contact him in any way whatsoever . Don’t message him , call him, send message cia someone else . Don’t reoply to any texts or answer call from anyone you don’t know . If you pick up by mistake and it’s him , hang up without a word .

Nothing - do you understand ?

Lockdown all your social media . I mean all.

Make sure your voicemail message is just the automated one and not your voice.

keep copies of everything he sends you.

If he approached you in teh street , say nothing to him and walk into a shop and ask for help . Call the police .

Suzy Lamplugh Trust

Support victims of stalking through the National Stalking Helpline and London Stalking Support Service, as well as training for organisations in Lone Working and Personal Safety as well as Stalking Awareness. We want to reduce the risk of violence and...

https://www.suzylamplugh.org

ObtuseMoose · 29/11/2024 17:51

I've reported those comments, just someone looking for a reaction.

Bankholidayhelp · 29/11/2024 17:49

HiImNewE · 29/11/2024 17:46

pardon me ?

It's a twat posting so don't give them any oxygen/response. Like your stalker

HiImNewE · 29/11/2024 17:46

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pardon me ?

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