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For sending only one of our daughters to private school

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FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 11:49

I have two daughters, and they are currently in years 6 and 8. Where we live schools are split into primary school (kindy to 6) and high school (7 to 12). dd1, who is in year 8, goes to a selective state school. She is doing really well there as she is pretty academic and thrives in that environment. There has been a lot of opportunities for her to extend her knowledge, in the subjects she is interested in. She is also in one of the top sets, which naturally gives her a smaller class size and extension work.

My year 6, dd2, does okay academically, but is not as inclined that way compared to her sister. I think she will get lost in the crowd should she attend the state school her sister attends. This option is always open for her as we live in the local catchment. dd2, however, is an exceptional musician and has obtained a diploma in both the cello and piano.

At the private school near where we live, dd2 has gotten a music scholarship which partially covers the school fees. My husband and I want to send dd2 there as they have a wonderful music program and smaller classes for everyone. We can afford to send both daughters to the private school if we wanted, but I genuinely feel like the state school suits dd1 better and the private school suits dd2.

We don't want to be unfair to dd1, and we are happy to pay for dd1's schooling too, but I think it should be more about finding a school that suits them. My husband is having some hesitations as we pay considerably more for dd2 as it costs money for her music lessons, competitions, and other musical opportunities she often have, but we are happy to pay for dd1 to learn as well, and she is doing a language lesson outside of school. I would also like to add that some of the science opportunities dd1 has at her state school won't be available at the private school.

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kittylion2 · 22/10/2024 16:39

Haven't RTFT but this situation applied to me as a child - in the 60s so you may feel it isn't relevant today, I don't know.

In my area then, everyone did the 11+ exam and I went to the local grammar which was a 15-20 minute walk away at the age of eleven. There were 2 school years between my brother and I.

In that time, my father got a better-paid job in a nearby town which had a very good private school. Out of interest they entered him for the entrance exam a year early - and he passed. Unfortunately he was a bit too far out of the catchment area to get an assisted place - that went to his friend who lived a bit closer - so although they had to pay fees, they felt they still had to give him that chance. At the time they explained this to me, and they said that if I wanted, they could pay the fees for me to go to the private girls' school there too. I think I was in the equivalent of Year 8 at the time.

We discussed it and I decided I didn't want to. I was at a good school, my commute was a LOT shorter than his ended up being, it had taken me a long time to settle in and we were all worried that I might not do so as a new starter in an already established class. Also, although he made friends, they were not in his local area - so he had to travel to socialise. I think the after school commute was the worst though (Dad couldn't give him a lift home as it was too early). By the time he got home, I had already done at least one lot of homework - I felt he had a much more tiring day than I did because of that.

I have never regretted not going to that school and I have never judged or blamed my parents for their decision - they did consult with me after all. However a few of my brother's friends/girlfriends assumed that my parents had been willing to pay for their son's education but not their daughter's. I know this wasn't the case - but certainly one gf continued to believe this and to state it, despite being told the situation. There will always be those who judge.

Edit: I forgot to mention the sixth form. They paid 5 years of fees, but the sixth form was free, however they were less impressed with the sixth form - something to do with the timetabling and the use of student teachers struggling with poor behaviour (yes! in the sixth form!) with exam classes. They went in to complain about the latter and were told by the Head that this never happened. The next day, the class had their usual teacher back.

BearHuntAgain · 22/10/2024 16:32

I haven't read all the way through but from my experience, I'd keep her in the state school. I was in a state school (not a selective one - although I did pass to go to a grammar). I was top set in everything, they were really nurturing of my academic abilities. In year 9 my parents came into some money and wanted to send me to a private school. I did - it was horrific. I scraped by my GCSEs, had no friends and hated every minute of it.

As a PP suggested, maybe put some money aside for DD1, so that if she wants to take up an activity or something, there's money there for that.

I wouldn't presume for your DD1 that private = a better education. It definitely wasn't that way for me (or my DH).

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/10/2024 16:30

I was sent to private school for the last two years of secondary due to mental health problems. My elder sister stayed at state school right through. We’ve discussed it since and she takes the view that she’s happy she didn’t have my problems.

From what you’ve said, sending DD1 to the private school would actually be a case of removing her from a school that suits her well and sending her to one that is less suitable purely for the sake of “being fair”. That’s madness! Send DD2 to the right school for her, and keep DD1 in the right school her. Since you’ve said you could afford it, you could potentially move DD1 at a later date if the current school stopped suiting her.

Wilfrida1 · 22/10/2024 16:30

Treating them fairly doesn't mean treating them the same. It sounds to me as if you are well aware of each daughter's strengths and needs and are treating them accordingly. Money doesn't come into it.

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 16:24

And I know from my own experiences in my own family that when children are grown up, they have different views of the childhood they had.

Thats up to them as adults. And is a lot wider than schools. Some adults are just unreasonable full stop. All parents can do at any time is their best.

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 16:23

OP you need to do what’s right for your kids and live for the moment. Theres always someone on mumsnet who carries a lifetime of resentment for something, and they would always find something to resent anyway. But having one child miserable won’t make for short term or long term happiness for anyone.

Quite clearly sending one DC to private and one to state sink schools for their whole school career is unfair and stupid. But most kids are not in private for their whole school career, so as long as they have in the long term the same options that’s fine imo. Loads of families have one in each at any one time for whatever reason.

HelenHywater · 22/10/2024 16:17

Well I think I'm going to go against the majority here - I don't think you can treat them differently. And I don't think you can put this on them to decide.

In this country at least, there are many perceived advantages of private school, and even if you are academic enough to thrive in a state school, you'll lose the other advantages.

And I know from my own experiences in my own family that when children are grown up, they have different views of the childhood they had. Perceived differences in treatment or favouritism stay with a child for ever, and many of these views of favouritism arise in retrospect when the kids are grown up and are reflecting on their relative successes/struggles etc. I think you have to treat children the same in respect to private school unless you are sending a child to private school because of disability etc.

iamtheblcksheep · 22/10/2024 16:09

I thrived at private school. I too would have underachieved lost in the state school system. I believe I have undiagnosed ADHD. I am musically gifted but didn’t know how to apply this concentration academically. Thank got bored and lost focus very easily in a class of 30. Smaller class sizes definitely enabled me to get through school and into a good uni.

My sister was intent on doing what she wanted to do and had a clear career goal. She would have achieved this in the local sunk school or at a top private school.

Delphiniumandlupins · 22/10/2024 16:03

It sounds as if you are considering all the options and making the best choices for each of your children. Sending the elder to the private school, or the younger to state, would actually disadvantage them in an attempt to treat them equally! Hopefully both girls grow up knowing that their parents love and value them and their individual accomplishments. When a person feels a sibling was treated more favourably it often has little to do with the amount of money spent on education.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 22/10/2024 16:03

No, it's fine. Spending money doesn't always equal love and support, it's important what individual children need.
I went to a state school while my sibling went to a private school which suited her better. I ended up with a better education.

Savingthehedgehogs · 22/10/2024 16:00

I’m not sure we can apply the same principle if you are not in the U.K as education can vary hugely at international schools.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/10/2024 15:56

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/10/2024 15:54

@FlakySwan

To be honest both my sister and I feel strongly even now that we were sent to the wrong school because we weren't sent to a school that really suited the eldest but didn't suit us, so fair play to you YANBU.

WhitneyBaby · 22/10/2024 15:52

I'm confused about the top sets being smaller in size. The tops sets when I was at school were 30+ with only 6-10 children in sets 5 and 6
Same for my older son

In what country?

JohnCravensNewsround · 22/10/2024 15:47

Fair is not always equal in the moment.
You say that DD1 is more academic. You may end up supporting her through undergrad and masters.
We supported our children in their ambitions. One went through uni, the other went to work at 18, and we helped by paying for lessons and a first car.
Life is long so don't tie yourself in knots about parity being related to costs, it's not

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 22/10/2024 15:42

LimeCookie · 22/10/2024 12:03

I would have 1-1 time with you eldest. Write it all out, the pros of each school specific to her. Go on a tour of the private school with just your eldest, so she has time to take it all in and come to an independent decision. When she’s an adult, I think it will be good for her to look back and know her parents really did try to make sure the best decision is made. I didn’t go to private so I don’t know the ins and outs, but thinking about when she finishes school, will she have wider opportunities if she had been to the private school? Are there other opportunities more suited to her, that you could offer her, alongside state school?

Edited

This is a great approach

Frith2013 · 22/10/2024 15:28

I'm confused about the top sets being smaller in size. The tops sets when I was at school were 30+ with only 6-10 children in sets 5 and 6.

Same for my older son.

LBFseBrom · 22/10/2024 15:20

You are not at all unreasonable. You can do other things for your eldest daughter.

I'm sure they will both do very well.

Anywherebuthere · 22/10/2024 15:18

Your reasons are totally justifiable.

But my worry would be about when they are older. Will one feel hard done by compared to the other?

It might seem trivial now but resentment can drive a wedge between siblings. Other than this it makes sense to place them both where they will thrive even if that's in different schools.

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 15:13

CrikeyMajikey · 22/10/2024 15:09

I had a similar situation, DC1 in selective state secondary and DC2 in private because private was able to provide DC2 the environment and support they needed at that time. My thoughts are you do what is best for child. However, DC1 was asked termly if they wanted to switch to private but they never did. DC2 joined DC1 in selective state secondary in Yr8. The cost & amount spent on DC2 never bothered or worried me until DC1 went to Uni. Am I prepared to let DC1 leave Uni with £50,000 in debt when I paid far more than that on DC2’s education for 4 years? This situation really doesn’t sit well with me and so I am paying DC1’s UnI costs. No doubt I will pay for DC2’s too.

You seem very perceptive. I wish my parents had seen the irony in this and perhaps, as a gesture, paid my uni fees to level the playing field somewhat.

Cerealkiller4U · 22/10/2024 15:11

I think this will cause huge issues if I’m honest

its the type of thing I’ve seen in therapy sessions (online) when one child feels more loved than the other.

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 15:11

Cluelessasacucumber · 22/10/2024 13:44

I was the grammar school girl in this situation whilst my less academic sister went to private. I think you've gone about this in the right way but I thought it may be helpful to share my perspective.

I didn't resent my sister going to private, it was the right decision for us both. But I did resent the mindset of this decision and the knock on impacts for me. I felt that my parents did, and still do, see my sister as "needier" whereas they think of me as capable, therefore she gets more support. I am naturally more independent and academic but I also internalised this perception, so I wouldn't approach them for help because I feel I'm not supposed to, or will be refused. My parents have always been keen to stress how much they've given us both in life, and how many opportunities we've had compared to them growing up - this is true, and I'm grateful but it wasn't always equitable.

In practice, how this paned out during the school years is there was a hobby I didnt get to do and I never got to go on any overseas school trips. I honestly can't even remember if I asked, or if I just assumed because of other "we cant afford that" conversations, but I know the option wasn't there for me and I felt quite angry about that. I was also pressured to get a job as an older teen which was a struggle on top of trying to maintain grammar school expected grades and extra curricular (mostly volunteering) which I was told was needed to get ahead, so I felt a constant sense of not meeting the expected standard which still sits with me.

I really struggled financially at uni, which was of course partly down to my choice of course and location (although I dont think I fully understood that decision at 18). My parents did help me but nothing like the financial equivalent of my sisters schooling. Im in my 30s and unlikely to pay off my student debt anytime soon. My sister chose a subsidised course at a much cheaper location, so she had much lower costs, but she would never have got a place on the course without private school and considerable investment in tutors. The gifts my parents gave her have meant she was essentially able to pay off uni and buy a property in her 20s.

This is of course my personal circumstances but the point I want to make is these decisions can be far reaching. I think most importantly you need to keep the conversation with your older daughter OPEN. It shouldn't be a done deal just because she didn't want to move schools at 14. You need to keep talking to her and understanding what her needs are (even if she seems to be doing well) as she grows.

This is my experience too

CrikeyMajikey · 22/10/2024 15:09

I had a similar situation, DC1 in selective state secondary and DC2 in private because private was able to provide DC2 the environment and support they needed at that time. My thoughts are you do what is best for child. However, DC1 was asked termly if they wanted to switch to private but they never did. DC2 joined DC1 in selective state secondary in Yr8. The cost & amount spent on DC2 never bothered or worried me until DC1 went to Uni. Am I prepared to let DC1 leave Uni with £50,000 in debt when I paid far more than that on DC2’s education for 4 years? This situation really doesn’t sit well with me and so I am paying DC1’s UnI costs. No doubt I will pay for DC2’s too.

Ozanj · 22/10/2024 15:05

Cantbelievethatimafoolagain · 22/10/2024 15:02

My older sibling went to a private secondary school which they started from year 6, not year 7. They're very very clever and our primary school just wasn't good enough. My parents couldn't afford the fees at first but then made it work. I was supposed to go to a grammar school but didn't get in. I never minded going to a normal school and my sibling going private. Private school would have been wasted on me. With my cousins, one went to grammar and the other went to private. I think it's more common than people realise. I don't think it's unfair. We are all different.

You say this now because you never experienced private school. But it’s the kids who don’t do well academically who benefit most from going to private school. Eg several of my neices have built thriving businesses straight out of school because they managed to get early seed funding and business support from their friends’ parents. You can’t miss what you don’t know.

MissUltraViolet · 22/10/2024 15:04

Question is - would DD1 have chosen the private school had the choice been given to her back when she was in year 6? It was never going to be a straightforward choice for her to make now she’s in her second year of secondary, has settled in and made friends.

I would definitely try come up with ways to make it all fairer, both financially and how much time you dedicate to each child’s interests, hobbies etc.

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