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For sending only one of our daughters to private school

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FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 11:49

I have two daughters, and they are currently in years 6 and 8. Where we live schools are split into primary school (kindy to 6) and high school (7 to 12). dd1, who is in year 8, goes to a selective state school. She is doing really well there as she is pretty academic and thrives in that environment. There has been a lot of opportunities for her to extend her knowledge, in the subjects she is interested in. She is also in one of the top sets, which naturally gives her a smaller class size and extension work.

My year 6, dd2, does okay academically, but is not as inclined that way compared to her sister. I think she will get lost in the crowd should she attend the state school her sister attends. This option is always open for her as we live in the local catchment. dd2, however, is an exceptional musician and has obtained a diploma in both the cello and piano.

At the private school near where we live, dd2 has gotten a music scholarship which partially covers the school fees. My husband and I want to send dd2 there as they have a wonderful music program and smaller classes for everyone. We can afford to send both daughters to the private school if we wanted, but I genuinely feel like the state school suits dd1 better and the private school suits dd2.

We don't want to be unfair to dd1, and we are happy to pay for dd1's schooling too, but I think it should be more about finding a school that suits them. My husband is having some hesitations as we pay considerably more for dd2 as it costs money for her music lessons, competitions, and other musical opportunities she often have, but we are happy to pay for dd1 to learn as well, and she is doing a language lesson outside of school. I would also like to add that some of the science opportunities dd1 has at her state school won't be available at the private school.

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AlertCat · 23/10/2024 07:09

FlakySwan · 23/10/2024 07:04

The thing is, dd2 will also need further education as a musician, so its kind of hard to be exactly fair.

I guess that’s always true unless you keep receipts for everything and save the exact amount of the difference and give it to the one who ‘gets’ less?

Don’t sweat it. As long as the parenting is equal- love, affection, celebration of achievement, support in difficult times, boundaries and rules- I don’t really see the problem.

FlakySwan · 23/10/2024 07:04

AlertCat · 23/10/2024 06:41

it sounds like the two schools suit the two different girls best.

If you worry about the spending disparity- it’s possible that your dd1 with her academic interests may want to do further higher education so could you keep the money you aren’t spending on her now and support her through Masters and PhD education? Or to live in a foreign city to study her area of interest?

The thing is, dd2 will also need further education as a musician, so its kind of hard to be exactly fair.

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AlertCat · 23/10/2024 06:41

it sounds like the two schools suit the two different girls best.

If you worry about the spending disparity- it’s possible that your dd1 with her academic interests may want to do further higher education so could you keep the money you aren’t spending on her now and support her through Masters and PhD education? Or to live in a foreign city to study her area of interest?

Futurethinking2026 · 23/10/2024 06:34

FlakySwan · 23/10/2024 06:22

So all good to send dd2 to the private?

Given everything you’ve said, yes I think so.

Badgerandfox227 · 23/10/2024 06:34

Sorry OP but having been in the position where one sibling went private and I went state, I still very much resent that decision my parents made. I was happy at my state school - I knew no different at the time, but the private school offered very different opportunities to mine that I can see as an adult, you must see that if that were not the case your DD2 could just go to the state school.
As a minimum you need to put an equal amount into an account for her to access when she’s older, maybe a house deposit or higher education costs.

FlakySwan · 23/10/2024 06:22

So all good to send dd2 to the private?

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Futurethinking2026 · 23/10/2024 06:12

FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 22:45

I would be but it feels unfair to dd2 as its not her fault state schools won't be able to nurture her talents

I definitely wouldn’t go down the saving the actual monetary amount but I would put some money aside in case DD1 needs some practical help in future for opportunities such as language exchanges, overseas science conventions etc.

FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 22:45

PeloMom · 22/10/2024 22:09

I wouldn’t send dd1 given the circumstances to the private school however are you able to set aside the same amount spent on her sister’s eduction into an account for DD1?

I would be but it feels unfair to dd2 as its not her fault state schools won't be able to nurture her talents

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IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 22:45

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 17:48

It’s strange though, most mumsnetters insist private’s an utter waste of money. Many adults who went private say they would rather have gone to state because they didn’t like it, even though they may or may not have liked state. Adults really should have enough critical thinking skills to see that.

Personally at work and in life I’ve never noticed that private educated people are any different to anyone else. Our experiences are all individual.

FWIW I have one in private, due to a state school going rapidly downhill (RAAC issue), shes happy enough there and is doing well but is intending to go back to state for 6th form.

But ironically I think a lot of private school educated people fail to see the advantage they were given. It's subtle things, even at the primary level, like being able to actually play sports rather than bench ball, having a school orchestra, having more confidence and better communication skills from the drama classes, introduction to science in a lab at an early age, introduction to latin and french and other languages at an early age, surrounded by well spoken people, much more attention in the staff ratios, parents of peers being successful and an inspiration/good influence. Certainly I've noticed this in peers- all things that you can't quite put your finger on. The thing is nobody can really know how they would have turned out following another route.

PeloMom · 22/10/2024 22:09

I wouldn’t send dd1 given the circumstances to the private school however are you able to set aside the same amount spent on her sister’s eduction into an account for DD1?

FlakySwan · 22/10/2024 22:06

Mipil · 22/10/2024 14:31

Ah… you aren’t in the UK. I was going to ask that when you said conservatorium. The British music colleges/conservatoires (tertiary/university level) have Saturday junior music colleges where highly gifted students come from all over the country to take music and theory lessons, play in orchestras and smaller groups. I agree with a PP that diploma level in year 6 is an extraordinary level of talent. What does her teacher suggest? Are there no boarding music specialist schools in Australia? Not that I would really want my child to board at that age but we are talking about a uniquely gifted child…

dd2 does do an orchestra and a music theory class in the conservatorium, its just not a saturday school. Her teacher suggest the private school as quite a few great musicians in the city graduates from there.

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Grapesnbubbles · 22/10/2024 18:33

I have had 2 in Grammar and one in Private after not getting on at the local state . The middle child is a little resentful of his brother being at private but wouldn’t want to join him !

I will be trying very hard to save towards uni for him so that he doesn’t end up with massive loans and he has an expensive hobby which we cover no questions .

We live quite frugally otherwise - no flash clothes cars or holidays but he doesn’t seem to have noticed that !

urbanbuddha · 22/10/2024 18:24

Could you level it up by making sure DD1 goes on all her school trips, including ski-ing if they offer it? Or by offering her another out of school activity she’d like to try. Books don’t really cut it imo.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 22/10/2024 18:23

Flugelb1nder · 22/10/2024 12:01

I am afraid I do not agree with the crowd on this one

Imagine your sibling being afforded much better opportunities than you. It starts in childhood - This would not only make you believe your parents had a clear favorite, but would impact the rest of your life and you could grow up resenting your parents

Either send them both, or not at all.

Imagine winning a scholarship to a school and not being able to go because your big sister didn’t want to switch and your parents wanted you both at the same place…..

Hankunamatata · 22/10/2024 18:21

Give dd the option to go private for 6th form? If really needs balanced out

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 18:18

OhTediosity · 22/10/2024 18:14

I think this is, in essence, the difference between the major public schools and minor day schools, but I wonder to what extent this is a uniquely British quirk and less relevant to an Australian OP. It’s misleading to describe them all homogeneously as ‘private’. A really well-run state school will knock spots off many mediocre private schools.

I dunno but I rather imagine that when we talk about families with one child in state and one in private, we are talking specifically about the privately educated child being in a minor day school rather than at Eton……

And you are right the two things are not in any way comparable.

OhTediosity · 22/10/2024 18:14

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 18:04

That is very much a tiny minority of private school pupils though and is likely to change in the future.

I think this is, in essence, the difference between the major public schools and minor day schools, but I wonder to what extent this is a uniquely British quirk and less relevant to an Australian OP. It’s misleading to describe them all homogeneously as ‘private’. A really well-run state school will knock spots off many mediocre private schools.

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 18:04

Ozanj · 22/10/2024 18:00

You don’t see a difference until you’re in senior positions in certain industries where suddenly everyone was educated privately and have shared stories of school skiing trips etc.

That is very much a tiny minority of private school pupils though and is likely to change in the future.

Ozanj · 22/10/2024 18:00

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 17:48

It’s strange though, most mumsnetters insist private’s an utter waste of money. Many adults who went private say they would rather have gone to state because they didn’t like it, even though they may or may not have liked state. Adults really should have enough critical thinking skills to see that.

Personally at work and in life I’ve never noticed that private educated people are any different to anyone else. Our experiences are all individual.

FWIW I have one in private, due to a state school going rapidly downhill (RAAC issue), shes happy enough there and is doing well but is intending to go back to state for 6th form.

You don’t see a difference until you’re in senior positions in certain industries where suddenly everyone was educated privately and have shared stories of school skiing trips etc.

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 17:48

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 17:39

I disagree. It is only really as an adult looking at private schools for my children do I truly understand the advantages it gives. At 13 I couldn't see why I should move from my state school to private when it was perfectly ok. Also meeting people in the workplace who have had this advantage makes me realise what I missed out on.

It’s strange though, most mumsnetters insist private’s an utter waste of money. Many adults who went private say they would rather have gone to state because they didn’t like it, even though they may or may not have liked state. Adults really should have enough critical thinking skills to see that.

Personally at work and in life I’ve never noticed that private educated people are any different to anyone else. Our experiences are all individual.

FWIW I have one in private, due to a state school going rapidly downhill (RAAC issue), shes happy enough there and is doing well but is intending to go back to state for 6th form.

IvyIvyIvy · 22/10/2024 17:39

Teateaandmoretea · 22/10/2024 16:24

And I know from my own experiences in my own family that when children are grown up, they have different views of the childhood they had.

Thats up to them as adults. And is a lot wider than schools. Some adults are just unreasonable full stop. All parents can do at any time is their best.

I disagree. It is only really as an adult looking at private schools for my children do I truly understand the advantages it gives. At 13 I couldn't see why I should move from my state school to private when it was perfectly ok. Also meeting people in the workplace who have had this advantage makes me realise what I missed out on.

cestlavielife · 22/10/2024 17:27

dd2, however, is an exceptional musician and has obtained a diploma in both the cello and piano.

So she needs a special school for her talents it s fine.

You can buy dd1 a Sumnmer school.in science etc . Invest on other ways in her interests and education. A field trip to borneo or Costa Rica for example if interested in nature . Membership junior for science orgs . Subscription to new scientist. Outings to geographical org talks in London plenty you can do with her

Don't make it seem like she is being dumped in state..she isn't!

Haver74 · 22/10/2024 17:12

My older sibling went to private school and I went to a state school as I was clever and it was assumed I would do well anywhere. Whilst I certainly did well academically, I never really fitted in and now don't have the same confidence as my sibling, nor do I have a friendship group from school. I would have benefited from the private school environment and I do feel resentful I wasn't given that option.

Acornsoup · 22/10/2024 16:43

Something to think about is how the DC will perceive the choices you have made for them when they are older. A lot will come down to the outcomes later on. They won't look back and think a but I needed this environment or that one. It will be this one had this opportunity and I didn't. I have seen this first hand. Not an easy choice.

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