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To reduce from three days at work to two when my eldest starts school?

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jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 09:43

My DS starts school next year. I currently work three days but this doesn’t really work with the school we’d ideally like him to go to: their before and after school sessions aren’t early enough.

I could just reduce my time by three hours and start an hour later but it would still be a rush at the end of the day. I am considering dropping a whole day and therefore starting an hour later three days a week and finishing two hours early one day a week. Part of me thinks it’s a bit indulgent as I still have a younger child in childcare but I’ve felt so rushed this year I’m keen to avoid that.

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OllysArmyRidesAgain · 23/10/2024 15:35

OP I get it, my DH worked with a commute and lots of travel and there was no option for reduced hours, but he always had loads of leave and lieu days for travel so he could cover holidays (I am not a teacher). I had the local job and we purposely chose to live where we are so that I had virtually no commute, a support network and could be the on-call parent. Whilst I earned a decent living, DH was able to earn more and paid a higher share of the bills so all was fair.

You do what works for your family.

timetodecide2345 · 23/10/2024 15:19

Well if you need to then do it but also consider the longer term effects on your pension. This is exactly why women lose out financially and men don't.

Investinmyself · 23/10/2024 15:17

If that’s best decision go for it. Nothing is forever just keep under review. It’s a huge burden on you though he should appreciate.
If you have a few school options I’d look at them all. If there’s one with 7.30-5.30wrap around it would make life easier.
Totally left field but I do know teachers who have moved private and dc goes to school with them on reduced fees.
At end of day you know what is feasible for your specific situation. Good luck whatever you decide.

jumpaboardapirateship · 23/10/2024 13:24

If he was single then he probably wouldn’t be able to go to that school. We are literally just trying to balance what is best for DS, not be interrogated on working hours. I know - that sounds horrible and I don’t mean or want it to, but I am the best person to reduce hours because I don’t earn as much. It really is as simple as that.

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Investinmyself · 23/10/2024 11:11

What do his female colleagues do? Is there a day he never travels for example.
I appreciate some jobs it’s totally impossible but if he was single he’d need to make it work. My dc’s friend at primary had a single Dr mum (no dad on scene at all) She made it work with calling in favours from other mums and a very pt ‘nanny’ she found on Facebook (firstly a young girl then a retired lady). I’m sure a lot of men would have pulled the I’ve a big important job I can’t possibly do school runs but she did sometimes.
Lots will depend on aftercare club - some may take as an extra if he can’t do school run due to work one week. Neighbour/another school mum. What is your backup plan if you need to be away on a course/too ill to drive to school etc.
Him just going to work v you doing all school runs and holiday childcare and working often leads to resentment and a very frazzled mum. But if it’s only option you have no choice but I’d at least want him to look at his flexible working policy and discuss with his manager.

jumpaboardapirateship · 23/10/2024 03:19

He can occasionally I am sure. But even if he does every Monday except for the ones he is away, that still leaves us with the problem of what to do on those Mondays?

Childminders aren’t an option; the school is too small and the catchment too wide.

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User79853257976 · 22/10/2024 22:19

Childminder?

Investinmyself · 22/10/2024 22:18

You know what’s realistic but if he could flex and start later or finish earlier one or two days it would take some pressure off you. Has he checked his flexible working policy. It’s nice for him and dc if he does occasionally go to school.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 16:57

There’s no point in him dropping the odd Monday or whatever though, is there, if I’m at work and there isn’t suitable wraparound? Point is, if the wraparound isn’t there long enough then we need an arrangement for those days.

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 22/10/2024 16:41

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 13:03

I know and I’ve just ignored it to be honest as it would go like this

Me - DH can’t reliably do childcare because he works too far away and sometimes works away.

Mn - DH should get a new job / move house - reduce his hours / work flexibly

Me - none of those options are possible or suit

MN - I don’t know why you posted OP, you don’t want any helpful advice.

(also sarcastic comments re how men can never reduce their hours etc.)

just summed up the next two pages Smile

Can't ever do a drop off on a single day of the working week...all year?

The Relationships board is full of women who have put themselves after their husbands super important job, and their kids, and the state of the house, only to find themselves with little of the way of pension, separated and earning significantly less than they should.

You can ignore commentators including me. I do really, really hope you are one of the lucky ones because from what I read on MN an awful lot of women are heartily regretting their actions.

My experience for what it's worth, the early years are absolutely relentless even with a supportive spouse who pulls his weight. Changing the dynamic of your relationship whereby you become the default carer, the one who always sucks it up though? That is a really difficult balance to change back.

Investinmyself · 22/10/2024 16:21

It’s a danger that you end up staying in a job as hours suit (I did for years - not teaching)
But realistically there will always be teaching work and your school sound flexible. If he can’t drop off and pick up and afterclub is short hours then realistically it’s all on you until youngest is secondary age.
Are there any other options to 8-4pm wrap around eg childminder or different schools to consider. Those are very short hours.

Soontobe60 · 22/10/2024 16:20

Maybe between the pair of you both of you could drop enough hours to cover childcare?

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 16:00

I’m not overly worried about my pension because I worked full time for some eighteen years before I dropped my hours and also have a couple of rental properties. I’m more worried about if I had to change jobs for any reason I think …could end up being a bit stuck.

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Investinmyself · 22/10/2024 15:50

I do think you need to acknowledge as a couple that it’s a huge burden on you doing all drop off, all pick ups and all school holiday care. Look at impact on pension - can you address this as a couple eg make additional payments.
Even a small change eg dh requesting flexibility to pick up once a week would make a difference.
If it is all you then I’d arrange hours to suit you.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 14:30

There’s an after school club until 4 so I can get over there. Illness is usually DH but we’ve been lucky with a very healthy child - last day off for illness was eighteen months ago!

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converseandjeans · 22/10/2024 14:17

Just do it. If your DH isn’t keen it would be worth asking if he can find any flexibility in his schedule so he can do some of the running around.

This - what is his plan to cover picking eldest up? If he's ill? Will he do things like get food in, take them to medical appointments?

Cotswoldwithkids · 22/10/2024 14:12

it is not indulgent at all. Do what’s best for you and your family.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 13:41

Thanks. I’m UPS3, so definitely above minimum wage although I know what you mean re the stress! That’s what’s been pretty hard this year to be honest. I always used to take it all in my stride but the needs of two very young children plus work have meant I’m spread really thin and that’s even before I get into the housework!

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examadmin · 22/10/2024 13:36

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 12:09

Hmm google seems to suggest there isn’t a minimum - does that sound right?

When we were doing this a few years ago, I recall that the rules were that the salary had to be equal to 16 (?) hours a week on minimum wage over a certain time period to get to the minimum pay requirements per week.

If you're a teacher you're likely to be on higher than minimum wage (although not that much higher for the added stress [I'm a former teacher]!) but you should still look into it properly just to be sure depending on how far you are into your career, where you are in the country (inner/outer/fringe/elsewhere weighting) and/or if you have additional TLRs to boost the "base" salary.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 13:34

It does and I don’t disagree with that but I also can’t totally ignore the financial impact. Even though dropping an additional two hours is probably something and nothing, and it isn’t forever - just until they’re both at school (my younger child will start September 2027.) The main thing that puts me off is that I’d probably go up to three days spread over four when they are both at school which only leaves me one day a week and I know - it’s a lot more than many get! But I was so looking to two days a week to do housework (sad I know!) and to have some ‘me time!’

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Feetroot · 22/10/2024 13:20

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 13:03

I know and I’ve just ignored it to be honest as it would go like this

Me - DH can’t reliably do childcare because he works too far away and sometimes works away.

Mn - DH should get a new job / move house - reduce his hours / work flexibly

Me - none of those options are possible or suit

MN - I don’t know why you posted OP, you don’t want any helpful advice.

(also sarcastic comments re how men can never reduce their hours etc.)

just summed up the next two pages Smile

I think that info is relevant OP because if he is not offering to do any of the running around himself, his opinion on how you should arrange your work carries much less weight.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 13:03

I know and I’ve just ignored it to be honest as it would go like this

Me - DH can’t reliably do childcare because he works too far away and sometimes works away.

Mn - DH should get a new job / move house - reduce his hours / work flexibly

Me - none of those options are possible or suit

MN - I don’t know why you posted OP, you don’t want any helpful advice.

(also sarcastic comments re how men can never reduce their hours etc.)

just summed up the next two pages Smile

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JingsMahBucket · 22/10/2024 12:39

@jumpaboardapirateship what about your husband's role in childcare? Several people have you asked you that.

ManchesterLu · 22/10/2024 12:16

Heidi00 · 22/10/2024 09:54

It is indulgent, but does it work for your family set up? Can you afford it? Will your pension be OK? Do you have a partner and do they agree?

It isn't necessarily indulgent, as having more time away from work can help keep up with other things, like housework, admin etc, therefore taking the pressure off both parents.

Me and DH have always worked the hours we NEEDED to, as we don't want to be both be working full time for the sake of things.

jumpaboardapirateship · 22/10/2024 12:09

Hmm google seems to suggest there isn’t a minimum - does that sound right?

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