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Is this revenge on the OW fair or not?

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pinkgown · 22/10/2024 02:58

Obviously we don't have the whole story, but would you be tempted to do this, to take revenge on the OW on your mother's behalf? I think I might, if I felt my mother and my family had been torn apart by her actions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9j9lpgjxlo

A mugshot of Eleanor Brown - a woman in her early twenties with dark shoulder length hair and blue eyes.

Eleanor Brown jailed for sharing naked photos of father's lover

Eleanor Brown posted the woman's photos on an escort site as an "act of revenge", a court hears.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9j9lpgjxlo

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NewGreenDuck · 22/10/2024 13:31

lalalapland · 22/10/2024 13:24

Not always worse to the person involved - I would far prefer an ex shared a nude photo of me than my current partner cheat on me.

But I wouldn't. I have no wish for nude photos of me to be on any social media. Particularly if the photos were attached to a website that inferred that I was a prostitute. And if my partner then received phone calls asking about the services provided.

lalalapland · 22/10/2024 13:24

unmemorableusername · 22/10/2024 10:31

No affairs aren't illegal or criminal.

Sharing photos is much much worse.

Not always worse to the person involved - I would far prefer an ex shared a nude photo of me than my current partner cheat on me.

lalalapland · 22/10/2024 13:21

SinisterBumFacedCat · 22/10/2024 13:16

Stephen Bear got 21 month prison sentence for sharing revenge porn videos of his ex, he served half his sentence.
Women are held to much higher standards in the justice system and are sentenced disproportionately longer than men. Presumably they think women are more of a threat to the public? More like these sentences are punishment for women falling from grace. Sexiest sentencing.

Agreed, this sentence is totally disproportionate. To those saying 'mens sentencing should be higher, rather than hers being lower' - that is simply not practical in our failing system. Precedence should not be based on gender

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/10/2024 13:20

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 13:09

Correct, I do.

Prisons are full. Judges need to use a bit of common sense.

Wow, talk about minimising sexual offences

TheyreStillGoingWithThemPlumsKerr · 22/10/2024 13:19

Never. It’s a disgusting thing to do. But the mother should never have involved her children in her marital issues, let alone encourage her daughter to do this.

What revenge would you deal
out to the father (the cheater in this situation) for tearing the family apart?
What revenge would you deal out to an OM if it was the mother who’d had the affair?

Jesus, it’s ALWAYS the woman’s fault isn’t it? Always the woman who needs to be taught a lesson

SinisterBumFacedCat · 22/10/2024 13:16

Stephen Bear got 21 month prison sentence for sharing revenge porn videos of his ex, he served half his sentence.
Women are held to much higher standards in the justice system and are sentenced disproportionately longer than men. Presumably they think women are more of a threat to the public? More like these sentences are punishment for women falling from grace. Sexiest sentencing.

lalalapland · 22/10/2024 13:15

I've definitely felt vengeful and said some nasty things under extreme emotional distress due to cheating, but these actions are illegal as she has found out.

I'd have more sympathy if actions were in the 'heat of the moment', because affairs cause real extreme trauma. The fact this has gone on for so many years is very concerning - But... I do wonder about the mental health impact of being subject to trauma through her teenage years and whether she was offered any support during that time. The fact her mum showed her nude pictures of OW when she was a teenager is pretty concerning.

I'm very strong in the opinion that cheating is emotional abuse. Especially sustained and repeated cheating. To do this to your daughters mother for sure has an impact on a teenager.

Unfortunately there is no recourse for someone who has been cheated on (and those hurt by it), so people seek their own revenge.

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 13:09

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/10/2024 13:06

Do you feel the same when men share revenge porn? I presume you think 3 years would be too long for men as well

Correct, I do.

Prisons are full. Judges need to use a bit of common sense.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/10/2024 13:06

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 11:58

Exactly.

No one is suggesting it is ok to share nudes that ow have sent married men, the point is the time should match the crime and it absolutely does not here.

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Do you feel the same when men share revenge porn? I presume you think 3 years would be too long for men as well

Lordofthechai · 22/10/2024 13:05

theworldie · 22/10/2024 12:52

RTFT (or the article posted)

She didn’t “just” post naked pics - she waged an all out hate campaign and involved others, and carried on after receiving a warning then denied wrongdoing/plead not guilty when in court meaning her victim had to give evidence.

She’s a fucking loon and deserves her sentence.

I don't disagree that this was an ongoing and awful campaign. I am not saying she has any leg to stand on. What I am saying is that the police regularly fail to even investigate when men do exactly this sort of ongoing appalling harassment to ex partners.

MoveToParis · 22/10/2024 12:54

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:37

'I still don't think we should put non-violent offenders in prison for long periods though. I'd suggest one month to give her a bit of a scare and then three years of electronic tagging'

Totally agree. Absolutely disproportionate sentence imo.

Whilst I generally agree with you, in this instance I think a prison sentence is deserved, and I think there should be significant prohibitions in terms of access to the internet, and a requirement to inform future partners of her offending, plus a lifetime restraining order.

How her sister and mother got off I have no idea.

Obviously I think men who post nudes online should face lengthy prison sentences too.

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 12:53

SpookyStar · 22/10/2024 12:51

I think 3 years was far too harsh. My friend’s ex husband shared videos of her and was never jailed so I don’t agree with 3 years in this case.

Or perhaps that’s an argument for your friend’s ex to have had a harsher sentence, rather than this woman getting a lighter one.

This was a prolonged campaign of harassment that targeted not just the OW, but her husband and child as well.

theworldie · 22/10/2024 12:52

Lordofthechai · 22/10/2024 12:45

I absolutely would not do this. I might have these kind of thoughts but never act on them. However I think it’s telling that male domestic abusers frequently do this sort of thing and worse and don’t ever face justice. But because she was female they prosecuted.

RTFT (or the article posted)

She didn’t “just” post naked pics - she waged an all out hate campaign and involved others, and carried on after receiving a warning then denied wrongdoing/plead not guilty when in court meaning her victim had to give evidence.

She’s a fucking loon and deserves her sentence.

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 12:51

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:36

You said would i be happy with a fine and I'm explaining why I would.

You’ll be pleased to know then that the victim can take civil action against them, so it’s very likely that they’ll end up having to pay out to her too.

SpookyStar · 22/10/2024 12:51

I think 3 years was far too harsh. My friend’s ex husband shared videos of her and was never jailed so I don’t agree with 3 years in this case.

Lordofthechai · 22/10/2024 12:45

I absolutely would not do this. I might have these kind of thoughts but never act on them. However I think it’s telling that male domestic abusers frequently do this sort of thing and worse and don’t ever face justice. But because she was female they prosecuted.

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:37

'I still don't think we should put non-violent offenders in prison for long periods though. I'd suggest one month to give her a bit of a scare and then three years of electronic tagging'

Totally agree. Absolutely disproportionate sentence imo.

Fluufer · 22/10/2024 12:36

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:36

You said would i be happy with a fine and I'm explaining why I would.

If you say so, but you are still victim blaming.

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:36

Fluufer · 22/10/2024 12:34

You are victim blaming. That is exactly what you are doing.

You said would i be happy with a fine and I'm explaining why I would.

Fluufer · 22/10/2024 12:34

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:33

Well I wouldn't be so careless as to send nudes to a marred man anyway <not victim blaming just answering your question) but if I did, and someone else intercepted them and posted elsewhere I'd put it down to experience and not do it again.

If the other person then continued to harass me I'd of course report if I felt my safety was at risk it but then yes if it went to court I'd be satisfied with a fine and community hours.

You are victim blaming. That is exactly what you are doing.

MojoMoon · 22/10/2024 12:34

If she had shared nude photos of the women on pornhub with no identifying information - or printed them out and stuck them on a lamppost with no identifying information - she would rightly not have got a prison sentence.

The nude photo is just one part - she ran a persistent campaign of harassment and abuse against a woman, the woman's husband and the woman's daughter involving sharing their personal contact details with strangers who were then encouraged to harass them.

She refused to stop even when given first warning.
She plead not guilty in order to force a trial.

The punishment is rightly greater if you refuse to acknowledge you have done something wrong and continue to do so even after being explicitly warned.

I still don't think we should put non-violent offenders in prison for long periods though. I'd suggest one month to give her a bit of a scare and then three years of electronic tagging, forcing her to be at home from 7pm to 7am and either at a pre-agreed place of work during the day, with some of her earnings taken to pay a fine to the victims, or if not employed or in full time training, attending community service for working hours. Weekends/non working days spent tagged at home bar a couple of hours for errands.

Punishment through lack of liberty but also still working and paying taxes or contributing through community service. Much more likely not to reoffend and also much cheaper than prison.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 22/10/2024 12:33

The word 'revenge' answers the question. Revenge is not 'reasonable'.

Gloriia · 22/10/2024 12:33

Fluufer · 22/10/2024 12:09

For sharing nudes of other people? Community hours? A fine? Would you be satisfied with that were you the victim? I know I wouldn't.
And paedos should be locked up even longer. Neither should be getting off easy.

Well I wouldn't be so careless as to send nudes to a marred man anyway <not victim blaming just answering your question) but if I did, and someone else intercepted them and posted elsewhere I'd put it down to experience and not do it again.

If the other person then continued to harass me I'd of course report if I felt my safety was at risk it but then yes if it went to court I'd be satisfied with a fine and community hours.

theworldie · 22/10/2024 12:30

I was an OW and yes I think this girl deserves a prison sentence.

I don’t know the where’s and why’s behind the affair but in my case I was very much fed the whole “we’re not together anymore, haven’t had sex for years, just friends living together” line. He lovebombed me and led me to believe we were a couple, took me to meet his friends and to his house etc. He told me he’d broke the news to his wife that he’d met someone else and was moving out - even took me to look at flats with him.
Turned out eventually she knew nothing and thought they were very much together. When she found out he denied everything, made out I was a nutcase and threw me under the bus. I was heartbroken, and so horrified and upset for his wife.

Im not saying what I did was ok but what he did was far worse - these predatory men often treat cheating as a hobby and are very practiced at it. I doubt the wives ever get the full truth, they minimise everything and blameshift onto the OW. It’s textbook, I realise now.

And yes we sent intimate photos to one another - stupid of me but I don’t think I deserve to have a hate campaign against me or be slut-shamed. Having been on the other side I hate how OW’s are often spoken of on here because I know how often both the wife AND the OW are the victims of the mans lies and desire to have their cake.

Kbroughton · 22/10/2024 12:28

Also on revenge, the only person you really hurt is yourself and potentially innocent others as seen here. For me, I was determined not to live my life feeling bitter and consumed by exH and OW actions. The best revenge is to live your best life. Since I was cheated on, I have bought my own lovely house, have a lovely fiancé who treats me the way I want, I have been promoted twice, my daughter has exceled in school. I barley think about exH and OW. When I do it is to shake my head that I put up with a mediocre life for so long, and be thankful of the life I now have. That to me is the best act of revenge I can think of. Not sitting in a darkened room consumed with hate and bitterness. Or in prison, as this girl.

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