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Need advice quickly please. To go to A&E? Waiting for a call back from 111 - beginning to really panic *MNHQ content warning for blood*

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TheKhakiBee · 22/10/2024 02:09

Hi, my daughter has been having a nosebleed for the past 20 minutes or so. Have tried everything to stop it, head forward, pinching the soft part of the nose continously. There is ALOT of blood. Waiting for 111 to call back. AIBU to A&E for this? I don't drive, don't know if a taxi would take us. Photo shows some of the blood.

Need advice quickly please. To go to A&E? Waiting for a call back from 111 - beginning to really panic *MNHQ content warning for blood*
OP posts:
x2boys · 22/10/2024 08:10

Demonhunter · 22/10/2024 07:53

It's only life threatening in VERY rare cases and are accompanied by a multitude of other symptoms.
Nosebleeds are one of few things that are, 99% of the time, nothing serious. People need to stop scaring people. Ambulances wouldn't be needed unless there was something like chest pain, vomiting or coughing up the blood that was going down the back of the throat, dizziness etc.

Driving to A&E or urgent care, to ease your mind over a child is understandable, but those saying Ambulance, are part of the problem with the strain the service is under.

Hope your daughter is feeling better now OP x

But nobody on the Internet can say wether it's serious or not
My son was critically ill last year fir the first couple of days his symptoms were very vague not to concerning, untill they weren't, and he nearly died he was in DKA we had no idea he was diabetic
So i would never police threads on here about Ambulances and waste of resources.

Floralsofa · 22/10/2024 08:10

x2boys · 22/10/2024 08:05

How would you know?
Ambulances will always prioritise those with life threatening conditions
So the Op calling one won't prevent those in more urgent need getting one.

Because there's a photo. It's a nose bleed, it may need A&E but certainly not an ambulance. (HCP)

FlyMeToPluto · 22/10/2024 08:08

Poor you, it's always such a fright when they bleed like this

My two were absolutely prolific nose bleeders when they were younger. Some warning signs to look out for

  1. When they have had colds (don't let her pick her nose!)
  2. When the weather changes (particularly when it gets warmer)
  3. Any slight knock to the nose

The capillaries are really close to the skin in the nose so it's easy to bleed. The doctor can cauterise them if necessary. There is actually quite a lot the GP can do - including some sort of cream they prescribe that does help.

I would get an urgent appointment with the GP if you can so they can give you something! And they can check there's nothing else worrying going on!

x2boys · 22/10/2024 08:05

Floralsofa · 22/10/2024 02:35

Ah yes, the photo definitely shows a life threatening amount of blood loss.

No wonder ambulance wait times are what they are.

How would you know?
Ambulances will always prioritise those with life threatening conditions
So the Op calling one won't prevent those in more urgent need getting one.

FlingThatCarrot · 22/10/2024 08:04

This all sounds very dramatic for a 20 minutes nosebleed! It looks like a lot of blood but go and throw 50ml on red wine on the counter and mop it up- it'll be way more.

I had tons of nosebleeds as a child, so does my son now- at one stage it was 3 a day at nursery. All medical professionals were very chill about it but there were a couple of staff members who freaked out a lot like yourself. Apparently can be worse during a growth strut or hot weather. 20 mins is really not that long.

My mum had one last a few hours- she had to go to hospital for it to be cauterised. They're an inconvenience rather than an emergency.

Toomanyemails · 22/10/2024 08:01

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 22/10/2024 02:32

'whenemmafallsinlove', call an ambulance? For a NOSE BLEED? No wonder the NHS is in such a mess! For a nose bleed you either drive there yourself, get a neighbour or parent to help, or call a taxi. Ambulances are for life threatening emergencies, NOT nose bleeds, however bad they may seem!

People can die or get seriously ill from any large loss of blood. The reason the NHS is in a mess is years of Tory cuts and harmful policies, not people using it when they're seriously ill. Always best to call 999 or 111 and get medical advice.

Stickly · 22/10/2024 08:00

Possibly needs cauterised, how scary! Will you phone your GP?

TheKhakiBee · 22/10/2024 07:55

Hi all, thanks for all the replies. It eventually stopped last night but we've just had a repeat exactly the same this morning. No idea what's going on. My eldest used to have pretty bad nose bleeds regularly but the bleeding now seems very excessive.

OP posts:
Demonhunter · 22/10/2024 07:53

It's only life threatening in VERY rare cases and are accompanied by a multitude of other symptoms.
Nosebleeds are one of few things that are, 99% of the time, nothing serious. People need to stop scaring people. Ambulances wouldn't be needed unless there was something like chest pain, vomiting or coughing up the blood that was going down the back of the throat, dizziness etc.

Driving to A&E or urgent care, to ease your mind over a child is understandable, but those saying Ambulance, are part of the problem with the strain the service is under.

Hope your daughter is feeling better now OP x

Tallulahbelle1038 · 22/10/2024 07:17

I’d suggest A&E as may need cauterising

Sorbiecorner · 22/10/2024 07:16

Hopefully it’s stopped now OP and you’re home again and managing to sleep.

cookiedough174 · 22/10/2024 07:15

OH OP that must've been so traumatic for you both! And it's so hard knowing what to do sometimes. I really hope all is ok!

CheekySwan · 22/10/2024 07:12

How is your daughter?

Andwhatfreshhellisthis · 22/10/2024 07:12

Zonder · 22/10/2024 07:09

I experienced this as a child. It was an haemorrhage. I hope you have been seen at A&E now.

I hope you are in A and E and I hope it has stopped

Zonder · 22/10/2024 07:09

I experienced this as a child. It was an haemorrhage. I hope you have been seen at A&E now.

ForGreyKoala · 22/10/2024 06:51

ImustLearn2Cook · 22/10/2024 03:15

Going by your username, are you in Australia? I’m in Australia and it’s ok to call an ambulance for a child who has had a nosebleed for over 20 minutes that isn’t stopping after first aid.

Also, the dispatchers here are trained to ask the right questions to determine the level of emergency. So, they are not going to prioritise a nosebleed over someone who isn’t breathing etc. People in critical conditions are not going to miss out on an ambulance because people are calling an ambulance for less critical situations.

No, NZ. Same here, they aren't going to prioritise a nosebleed over an emergency.

Natsku · 22/10/2024 06:46

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No idea who they based the 'few tablespoons' period on but I use a cup so I know how much I bleed and its a hell of a lot more than a few tablespoons!

MassiveSalad22 · 22/10/2024 06:42

Hope she’s ok OP! I once had a nosebleed that lasted 2 hours before my mum took me toA&E/OOH and obviously by the time we got there it had stopped 😅 she was told she should have brought me after 15 mins, so a lot of horrified people here are wrong. This must have been 25 years ago so that guideline has been in place for ages.

Evetually got my nose cauterised which was fine and effective.

Bananainpj · 22/10/2024 06:28

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mooncloud1 · 22/10/2024 06:21

Fabulosia · 22/10/2024 05:20

I went to A&E with this recently. They will try to cauterise it ( totally painless). Then they’ll pack with nasal tampon which inflates. They kept me in overnight but got it sorted eventually.Good luck

When I had my nose cauterised recently it absolutely was not 'totally painless' 😆 glad it was for you though!
OP hope you've gone to hospital and everything is ok.

TypingoftheDead · 22/10/2024 06:07

My dad scratched the side of his nose during the night once, not quite the same thing but we did call paramedics in the end as it wouldn’t stop bleeding. Turns out he’d scratched a vein and the blood was pumping out at the same rate his heart was beating. In the end it was a simple fix, but they did debate taking him in - and didn’t think we were being ridiculous to call them.

Fabulosia · 22/10/2024 05:20

I went to A&E with this recently. They will try to cauterise it ( totally painless). Then they’ll pack with nasal tampon which inflates. They kept me in overnight but got it sorted eventually.Good luck

thistlepiedpiper · 22/10/2024 04:28

Hope your dd is ok
Was she sleeping when it started?

CottonCandyLand · 22/10/2024 04:27

Another vote for A&E. I had a non stop nosebleed a few years ago. I couldn’t plug it or pinch my nose because I would start choking on the blood.
DH took me to hospital and I passed out from blood loss. I came round and vomited up a load of blood. I had this inflatable thing inserted in to my nose and kept in overnight. I’m an adult so I definitely wouldn’t take chances with a child.

SageBlossomBunny · 22/10/2024 04:15

Hope she's okay.