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Husband shouted at child for hiding something.

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MyGreenCat · 21/10/2024 20:02

Hello. I’m just back from a holiday with husband, son (8) and my two step children. While on holiday, we had two events booked. One for me and our son and one for my husband and stepchildren due to the events being for different age groups. Anyway, before the event we all returned to our rooms after getting something to eat from the restaurant. My husband put his vape on the bed and went to have a shower. He came back and it was gone. He couldn’t find it so started blaming and shouting at our son asking him where he hid it. Our son has a long history of hiding things, (phones, money, controls etc). I calmly asked if he had moved it and if so, he wouldn’t be in trouble (obviously) that we just wanted to find it before going out again. Husband started shouting where is it, I know you’ve moved it, it’s always my stuff you move. (It isn’t, he moves my things too, I don’t shout and rage about it though). He had another one with him so could have just opened it but refused and said no, I want to find the one that’s been moved. Son is standing with his hands on his head saying, I’m getting so stressed out. I felt so bad for him so kept saying to husband maybe he didn’t move it as you didn’t see him I’ve it so you can’t prove it. He just kept saying, oh I know he moved it, I’m so sick of this. Kicked some shopping bags that had clothes it. We still don’t know if he moved it or not. Even if he did move it, husband shouldn’t have reacted like this. Now that we’re home, I can’t even look at him without being annoyed. He thinks it’s not a big deal and annoyed that I don’t want to speak to him. What do I do?

OP posts:
SophiaJ8 · 21/10/2024 21:16

Maybe if you’d have shouted at him the first time, he’d have stopped.

Whatever you’re doing hasn’t really worked. I’d be absolutely fed up of it too

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/10/2024 21:13

"He gets told off, we explain to him that’s it’s not okay to take things that aren’t his"

Doesn't sound like this is working too well. Your son sounds super annoying. I would shout too.

SwingTheMonkey · 21/10/2024 21:12

Your approach isn’t working is it, op.

Your child has now found out that his behaviour is completely unacceptable. Not before time.

Macaroni46 · 21/10/2024 21:05

MyGreenCat · 21/10/2024 20:33

So clearly we all have a different meaning of being in trouble. In our home, we mean he won’t get shouted at etc. He gets told off, we explain to him that’s it’s not okay to take things that aren’t his. Shouting at children just stresses them out and doesn’t solve anything. He gets disciplined. No, me saying that our son wouldn’t get in trouble wasn’t what caused my husband’s reaction. He also told our son at the start that he wouldn’t be in trouble, again we clearly do it differently to some people. Son has done this since he was about three. He has taken toys etc from nursery and school. Every single time, I made him take them back and return them to the teacher so he knew what it felt like having to hand them back. He has mostly outgrown this. He also took a you form the shop when he was around 5. I made him take it back to the shop and return it. Husband still laughs about it and says I wouldn’t have take him back to the shop with it, that would be embarrassing. I told him, no we have to teach him it’s not okay to do that. School have helped with him taking things from there. GP wasn’t much help and said he would outgrow it, which he is, slowly.

I'm not sure your gentle approach is working OP. Maybe try toughening up how you deal with your son hiding things. It's not ok to keep to doing this!
Not great that your DH shouted but can't say I blame him. Your DS will be ok. Maybe he'll even stop hiding stuff as a result of being shouted out.

NewGreenDuck · 21/10/2024 20:53

Even the best natured person can occasionally lose it. And if your son keeps taking things then even the most patient parent will sometimes behave out of character. Perhaps your son will now understand that he is winding others up.

lovenotwar149 · 21/10/2024 20:53

to kick things

lovenotwar149 · 21/10/2024 20:53

As the adult in the situation, you hubby didn't mange his emotions well. No need tonic things etc I would be really annoyed with my hubby if he did that. And for that an apology is necessary. But you cant make him apologise. The 'hiding' issue is another issue which does need addressing for sure. Your husband behaved poorly. When my DH behaves poorly and doesn't take accountability, I wont be around him, I take myself away

LockForMultiball · 21/10/2024 20:53

So clearly we all have a different meaning of being in trouble. In our home, we mean he won’t get shouted at etc. He gets told off, we explain to him that’s it’s not okay to take things that aren’t his. Shouting at children just stresses them out and doesn’t solve anything. He gets disciplined.

That's really confusing. If you told me I wouldn't be in trouble for something and then I was disciplined, I'd never trust you saying that again.

Discovering that people get angry when you fuck with their stuff is at least a bit less confusing.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 21/10/2024 20:48

BeADinosaur · 21/10/2024 20:06

Shouting and kicking things isn't great.

However if my kid kept hiding my phone, money and other things and refusing to say where it was I'd get pretty sick of it pretty quickly.

If your son didn't move it, he can't really complain that he is accused of it as his previous behaviour has led people to mistrust him. A form of 'the boy who cried wolf'.

I second this, I'd be pissed off if my things kept on going missing and agree that as he has done this repeatedly, hed be getting in trouble for it.

strongly disagree with losing control though, and kicking stuff - that's too far and unnecessary when a calm telling off would express the same sentiment x

MyGreenCat · 21/10/2024 20:33

So clearly we all have a different meaning of being in trouble. In our home, we mean he won’t get shouted at etc. He gets told off, we explain to him that’s it’s not okay to take things that aren’t his. Shouting at children just stresses them out and doesn’t solve anything. He gets disciplined. No, me saying that our son wouldn’t get in trouble wasn’t what caused my husband’s reaction. He also told our son at the start that he wouldn’t be in trouble, again we clearly do it differently to some people. Son has done this since he was about three. He has taken toys etc from nursery and school. Every single time, I made him take them back and return them to the teacher so he knew what it felt like having to hand them back. He has mostly outgrown this. He also took a you form the shop when he was around 5. I made him take it back to the shop and return it. Husband still laughs about it and says I wouldn’t have take him back to the shop with it, that would be embarrassing. I told him, no we have to teach him it’s not okay to do that. School have helped with him taking things from there. GP wasn’t much help and said he would outgrow it, which he is, slowly.

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RB68 · 21/10/2024 20:32

sounds like the 8 year old having trouble adjusting to/feeling secure in a blended family unit to me. I think you both need to look beyond the hiding stuff - to why he is doing it and that is not something that will come out if the adult continues to have a tantrum rather than addressing the root cause

Completelyjo · 21/10/2024 20:24

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/10/2024 20:15

There are two separate issues.

The child hiding things is one - which everyone is now fixated on.

The second is a grown man shouting at an 8yo and kicking things in anger. Hitting and kicking inanimate objects in front of people to scare them is domestic abuse.

The 8yo probably should know better, the grown man definitely should.

The dad is probably at his wits end with the son doing whatever he likes, behaving badly and never having any consequences. The op was so quick to tell the son he wouldn’t be in trouble even if he had taken the item!

Sometimes we all have out of character reactions that we regret when the stressers are too high, as long as this isn’t indicative of the dads personality then you can’t claim it’s abuse.

Whaleandsnail6 · 21/10/2024 20:24

Your husband is probably at the end of his tether at your son hiding things.

Its not even funny once coming to get something that belongs to you that has been hidden, but can maybe let it go in a very young child but an 8 year old who repeatedly does it, that gets old pretty quickly.

Your son needs to be told to quit the behaviour and then people wont get irritated and accuse him when something goes missing...its like the boy who cried wolf, even if he didnt hide it, people will be suspicious given his past behaviour and get annoyed, especially when getting ready to go out

Dramatic · 21/10/2024 20:22

Huh? He wouldn't be in trouble? Why the hell not?! I imagine this was the straw that broke the camels back with your DH, he's had enough of your son taking things and snapped. Can't say I blame him really.

tillytoodles1 · 21/10/2024 20:22

I'd be absolutely furious if an 8 yr old had a history of doing this. There would severe consequences unless he stopped.

Zanatdy · 21/10/2024 20:22

Well your son has had a lesson in the boy who cried wolf if he didn’t do it. He will always take the blame as he’s got himself a reputation for doing this. You do need to tackle this, your DH was a bit OTT but I guess he’s had enough of his behaviour. I guess he did it, but wouldn’t own up.

Embery · 21/10/2024 20:21

Op you are being ridiculous. Your 8yo needs consequences for hiding things.
My eldest used to do this (possibly part of sen)

i thi nk you need to point out to dc that i ts really unsafe too as a vape could be dangerous for other kids who might find it in the room ...
likewise you dont actually know what else he might have hidden
Money/credit cards/ghic card?

also it creares drama with the parents as they can end up accusing each other of moving things.

Starlightstarbright3 · 21/10/2024 20:18

I would love to know previous consequences …. This is not normal behaviour for an 8 year old ..

I think you probably exacerbated things . Sent mixed messages … Dad is furious - you are saying he won’t be in trouble..

I agree regardless of whether it was him or not it’s the boy who cried wolf .

assuming the sc are older it would be even more unusual behaviour

Completelyjo · 21/10/2024 20:17

@Anotherparkingthread I'd be furious with a child that stole items especially things as important as phones and money.

Exactly, it’s telling that OP refers to it as hiding and not stealing.

Completelyjo · 21/10/2024 20:16

Why would he obviously not be in trouble for taking the item and hiding it though? 8 is more than old enough to deal with the consequences of shitty behaviour. And yes “hiding” phones, money and personal items is shitty behaviours.

Anotherparkingthread · 21/10/2024 20:16

Your son sounds like a little horror and frankly I'd be pissed off with you standing there telling him he won't be in trouble, which is a baltent lie, because he clearly is in trouble very much should be in trouble. You undermined your husband's authority and emotions. He's allowed to be livid, I'd be furious with a child that stole items especially things as important as phones and money. What consequence does your son face? Are you removing things that he enjoys until items are returned? I would be laying down some ealky heavy discipline on this. You should have nipped it in the bud a long time ago.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/10/2024 20:15

There are two separate issues.

The child hiding things is one - which everyone is now fixated on.

The second is a grown man shouting at an 8yo and kicking things in anger. Hitting and kicking inanimate objects in front of people to scare them is domestic abuse.

The 8yo probably should know better, the grown man definitely should.

SwingTheMonkey · 21/10/2024 20:15

Why is it ‘obvious’ he wouldn’t get into trouble? It sounds like you’re enabling his poor behaviour and your husband is sick of it.

DoreenonTill8 · 21/10/2024 20:14

WeeOrcadian · 21/10/2024 20:11

Forget the hotel room

What consequences are there for your son when he hides things?

This, sounds like nothing as Our son has a long history of hiding things, (phones, money, controls etc). I calmly asked if he had moved it and if so, he wouldn’t be in trouble (obviously).
Is he never told off for anything?

Cas112 · 21/10/2024 20:12

Cas112 · 21/10/2024 20:12

Obviously your DH behaviour is acceptable but is your son pushing him to breaking point, hiding and taking peoples things is a really disgusting habit you need to stop. Once or twice as a kid playing pranks but repeatedly is not normal

Is not acceptable that should say