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Toomanywars · 21/10/2024 18:39

Martin Blake police officer today cleared by a jury of unlawful killing of Chris Kaba

Should police officers get more support. Perhaps not release name until after trial or inquiry.

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Scammersarescum · 22/10/2024 15:57

username35890 · 21/10/2024 23:20

You're the one who isn't aware of the facts. Like I said, don't engage.

Don't come on a forum predominantly for women and tell women to be quiet.

For one so keen to see rascism you appear to be utterly blind to how misogynistic that appears.

OnlyTheBravest · 22/10/2024 15:53

Brefugee · 22/10/2024 15:17

have not yet read the entirety of the thread. I do not trust the police and if a police car flashed me to stop, my reaction would be to drive to the nearest police station. But then I'm a white woman.

Having said that. As a black man, i probably wouldn't stop for the police. The outcome is often sub-optimal.

But i do feel that in this case the police were right, the jury was right and sad as it is that a family have lost a son, he was a violent criminal and if the police hadn't killed him, the chances are someone else would have. Or he'd be locked up for life.

This is utter nonsense and is not recommended at all for anyone of any skin colour or sex.
If you drive away from Police they will stop you. They will call in additional units and block your car and you could possibly gain extra charges and make a minor situation worse.
If you are scared just put your phone on to record the interaction or face time someone so they can see what is happening.

EasternStandard · 22/10/2024 15:44

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:18

He wasn't armed. 🙄

You wouldn’t really say this facing an Audi being used as a weapon

MilletOver · 22/10/2024 15:42

@Oblomov24Plus if they had arrested him and taken him back to the police station, he would have been released, because they had no evidence nor that he was guilty of any crime.

I doubt they would have released him. He had a balaclava in his pocket and gunshot residue on his sleeve. The car was known to have been involved in at least 2 actual shootings by the time police would have taken him to the police station for questioning - and they may even have been , at that point, able to link the car to the Oval Space shooting where KC is seen shooting on CCTV

EasyTouch · 22/10/2024 15:35

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:29

The IOPC chose to pass it onto CPS because they believed a crime (homicide) had been committed. That was their choice, post investigation.

To think that politics did not play a part in this , is pure naivete on your part.
The MET had to be SEEN to be extra judicious in order to placate the exact same White Leftist/ Black buck coddlers who try and use real institutional racism as a narrative to hide Black male criminality behind and the effects if it ( on the criminal) to gain social and financial clout if off.. pretending that they give one eff about Black people ( who they racistly/ self hatingly force team with Black people).
The judiciary, from the MET onwards have played a blinder.
They did as the race hustlers and Chris Kaba's family wanted, got his criminal biography stifled in mainstream media in order to placate the narcissism of the Kaba family and race hustling hangers on, got a exoneration at the Old Bailey whilst unusually ,, the criminal history leading up to the death of Mr Kaba , explaining why armed responders tagged the car he was driving was not allowed in court.
No room was left for the lying, grifting rabble rousers to sanely think that Mr Blake had been tried whilst prejududicing the name of Mr Kaba.
Only a red carpet was not rolled out for the Kabas.
However, like cream and shit, the truth was always going to rise to the top. Mr Blake has become a martyr (due to BLM needing to be more about sociopathy committed by Black males being exonerated in a way that they imagine sociopathy committed by ALL White people is, as opposed to sanctity, safety and equality for Black people per se), Chris Kaba and his family have been revealed as the controlling socipaths that they are/were.
I only hope that Mr Blake will be able to see himself as the person who had to be thrown under the bus in order for the Black and White sociopaths who take advantage of valid institutional racism to hide their ill intent behind.
He had to suffer so as the Kaba's cannot glean even ONE ill deserved tax payer coin for the death of Chris Kaba.
And the internal investigation will also exonerate Mr Blake.
Why? A good man cannot be seen to be unjustly and institutionally harassed , when he already has a criminal price on his head in the name of a dead criminal who preyed upon Black people.
Or do we want to run with the narrative that only Black male criminals are worthy of police attention and have no cause to want Black shottas off of the road?
The IOPC/ CPS actions were merely to placate those who are pro Black criminal more than pro Black .
A louder, but smaller group than Black or Other, but like a fly that revives after being sprayed.

Now for the REAL victims of police racism, please........

Bikessmikes · 22/10/2024 15:30

Why is hard for people to wrap their head around the fact that a suspect might have a gun if they are linked to a gun offence? The armed police wouldn’t have been out otherwise.

PippaKing · 22/10/2024 15:27

Brefugee · 22/10/2024 15:17

have not yet read the entirety of the thread. I do not trust the police and if a police car flashed me to stop, my reaction would be to drive to the nearest police station. But then I'm a white woman.

Having said that. As a black man, i probably wouldn't stop for the police. The outcome is often sub-optimal.

But i do feel that in this case the police were right, the jury was right and sad as it is that a family have lost a son, he was a violent criminal and if the police hadn't killed him, the chances are someone else would have. Or he'd be locked up for life.

The irony!!!

"If a black man stops for the Police the result is sub-optimal?"

Well, if CK had done that he may be alive (in jail) today!

Honestly do people read back what they write?

Locutus2000 · 22/10/2024 15:23

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:18

He wasn't armed. 🙄

Clearly you haven't driven an Audi Q8.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/10/2024 15:20

MilletOver · 22/10/2024 14:55

Is there a published report of that?

It's in just about every news source, MIlletOver, but here's one tthat's not behind a paywall: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/chris-kaba-inside-story-shooting-london-streatham-hill-police-met-b1027691.html

Locutus2000 · 22/10/2024 15:19

Toomanywars · 22/10/2024 12:11

Indeed.

The DM has a story running today on the poor police officer, with a £10k bounty on his head and the gangster that was CK...

TO ALL YOU APOLOGISTS for gang members

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13986529/Chris-Kaba-gangster-verdict-Martyn-Blake.html

From the article here's one of Kaba's drill videos. Gives an insight into the mindset involved.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5OI-SqXvyI

Brefugee · 22/10/2024 15:17

have not yet read the entirety of the thread. I do not trust the police and if a police car flashed me to stop, my reaction would be to drive to the nearest police station. But then I'm a white woman.

Having said that. As a black man, i probably wouldn't stop for the police. The outcome is often sub-optimal.

But i do feel that in this case the police were right, the jury was right and sad as it is that a family have lost a son, he was a violent criminal and if the police hadn't killed him, the chances are someone else would have. Or he'd be locked up for life.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 22/10/2024 15:05

username35890 · 21/10/2024 19:21

You're just parroting what the police said. He wasn't speeding at the time of the shooting, he was stationary.

The previous day he’d shot someone across the dance floor at a night club….puttting many innocent people in danger (let’s be real the ‘victim’ was probably as bad as he).

i feel rage at the family…the mother who raised him, who at 13 was found guilty of stabbing and breaking someone’s arm…..the dramatics, the portrayal of an innocent man shot by our police who put their life on the line for us every day.

but ultimately, these gangs! This sick culture. How do we stop it?

Startrekkeruniverse · 22/10/2024 15:02

Pleased the officer was let off.

Think it’s laughable that Kaba’s family said the verdict was “painful proof that our lives are not valued by the system”. Pity he didn’t value the bloke he shot in a nightclub tbh.

Restlessinthenorth · 22/10/2024 14:59

marshmallowmix · 22/10/2024 13:43

what's Sadiq Khanabout this? he has destroyed London in so many ways...it is unrecognisable from 20 years ago

Read his statement. It is an utter disgrace. Bleating about the family's pain and loss. What about absolute hell the officer has been put through for the past two years for simply doing his job.

Only days ago launching a toolkit to prevent violence against women and girls and in the next breath is appeasing the associates of this violent, murderous thug. He's a coward

MilletOver · 22/10/2024 14:55

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/10/2024 10:57

It was also in April this year that hee was served with a domestic violence protection order to keep him away from his current pregnant girlfriend

Is there a published report of that?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 22/10/2024 14:51

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:47

I've got no interest in him, KC as such. I'm interested in case, the bigger issues.

And what do you believe the bigger issues are?

MilletOver · 22/10/2024 14:50

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:47

I've got no interest in him, KC as such. I'm interested in case, the bigger issues.

Could you just say what you do think?

You have been present on this thread and the other casting scepticism and doubt on what has happened but not what you actually think! (sorry if I have missed it)

OnlyTheBravest · 22/10/2024 14:49

This is a hard lesson in FOAFO.

All he had to do was stop. This is a tough lesson and one that might help youngers understand that Top Boy, drill and hip music videos and films such as Fast and Furious are not real they are fiction. In real life if you have got to the point that an armed police officer is telling you to stop. STOP

As for the family, they share some of the responsibility for the position this young man ended up in. You can love someone but not like how they are choosing to live. I hope they can find it in themselves to grieve and not allow social media hysteria turn this tragic situation into something that it is not.

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:47

I've got no interest in him, KC as such. I'm interested in case, the bigger issues.

HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott · 22/10/2024 14:44

Agree. This had to go to court, and it seems that they've handled it scrupulously carefully.

(edit - lost the post I was responding too!)

Meanwhile, I'm shocked to see Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP named the police officer in March this year and described the case as a 'fight for justice' :

https://x.com/BellRibeiroAddy/status/1766042958854320402

She should apologise.

x.com

https://x.com/BellRibeiroAddy/status/1766042958854320402

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 22/10/2024 14:38

He wasn't armed. 🙄

You mean aside from the two-ton vehicle he was ramming at the police?
Why are you so invested in defending this particular individual?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 22/10/2024 14:31

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:29

The IOPC chose to pass it onto CPS because they believed a crime (homicide) had been committed. That was their choice, post investigation.

That’s wrong. A referral to the CPS is made when the IOPC investigation indicates that a criminal offence may have been committed. It does not mean the IOPC believed it had.

marshmallowmix · 22/10/2024 14:30

His family making a fuss as their income has gone....shame on them on TV last night knowing full well his background and all he had done....it beggars belief!

In their shoes you'd hide away....disgraceful I knew as soon as I saw them what his background would be ....d rugs

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 14:29

The IOPC chose to pass it onto CPS because they believed a crime (homicide) had been committed. That was their choice, post investigation.

FumingTRex · 22/10/2024 14:27

Whenever you deploy armed police there’s a risk someone will be killed in the crossfire, that could be a member of the public hit by a stray bullet or a kid run over by someone trying to get away. Armed police are not deployed for no reason, and people like Kaba are putting everyone else at risk by making armed police come out in the first place.