Police officer cleared

I am married to a black man. I am always worried that he will come to harm in the hands of the police.
No, Kaba didn't deserve every shot. He deserved to be answerable for any alleged crimes he committed. He deserved to be innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. No, he did not deserve to be executed.

Well they could have shot the tyres for one thing and immobilised the vehicle.

The car was boxed in and didn’t pose much of a risk because it couldn’t get the speed to do damage.

Shoot the tyres and then approach the car.

If he pulled a gun (which he wouldn’t have because he was unarmed), then shoot.

Every stabbing of a young person in my community ripples through my school: it's someone's cousin, friend from primary school, brother's friend. And so are the perpetrators. It's so fucking grim. Gang related crime and violence impacts the lives of literally everyone who lives here. I understand that protesters are attempting to call into question the killing of an unarmed man by a police officer, but having read CK's catalogue of priors, I just feel so hopeless. How the hell are violent men like CK stopped or better still, helped to help themselves, before it gets to this point?

I am married to a black man. I am always worried that he will come to harm in the hands of the police.
No, Kaba didn't deserve every shot. He deserved to be answerable for any alleged crimes he committed. He deserved to be innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. No, he did not deserve to be executed.

I am married to a black man. I am always worried that he will come to harm in the hands of the police.
No, Kaba didn't deserve every shot. He deserved to be answerable for any alleged crimes he committed. He deserved to be innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. No, he did not deserve to be executed.

I’m married to a Police Officer. Every time he goes to work, I wonder if he’ll come home. I’m glad Kaba was the one who died, not a Police Officer.
Kaba was a waste of oxygen, a nasty piece of work with a long criminal history, it has since been revealed. He deserved every shot.

Firstly, I take no side here, and have no legal knowledge. Its a desperately sad affair for all concerned.

But I am puzzled why he was charged with murder, which I believe involves premeditation and planning. Would not manslaughter have been more appropriate?
One might think he was charged with murder, as public opinion required action, but thought that a murder verdict was unlikely.

You still defend him then after todays revelations of Kaba’s background? A thug who’s been involved with the murder of others, and who is classed as a very dangerous individual? Or now will you be bleating about him being the product of a poor deprived background who was failed by society?

The police have stated that they didn’t know who he was when they shot him.

At that moment, it didn’t matter about his criminal history because they had no idea who he was.

He could have been related to the owner of the vehicle or an innocent person who had just bought it.

His criminal history is irrelevant.

Yes he was a scrote if he killed someone but that’s not the issue.
The issue is that the police shot and killed an unarmed person, they had no idea who he was and whether he was a criminal.

No one would now say the police officer deserves to be killed because of his actions.
We know the police officer shot and killed someone but we don’t justify someone now killing him.

People who kill peados still get sentenced to murder, even if the person they killed was a monster.

We live in a society of laws and an eye for an eye doesn’t work.

No one should be named until after the trial and only if found guilty

I’ve only skimmed this thread. But I see there are plenty of (predictable) posts from various people who really seem to think they would have dealt with the stop on Kaba better than the attending officers. And lots of people who seem very sure that the officers were not facing any threat, or fearing for their lives. This is despite the fact they have literally no experience in policing, let alone armed policing. What a shame you weren’t there that night, to have tasered Kaba (through his windscreen) or shot him gently through his foot to stop him making off. Unless you are a highly trained firearms officer with lengthy experience, your suggestions of what these officers should have done are frankly embarrassing.

Let me tell you that Martyn Blake is an extremely accomplished officer, one of the absolute elite, whom we have been incredibly fortunate to have had working in our police force. Every armed officer knows that should they find themselves in a situation where they feel they must shoot someone, they do so knowing their own life, and the lives of their families, will become unrecognisable, and probably unrecoverable. They know they will be suspended, subjected to an investigation over several years by the IOPC, face financial ruin, and taken to court in an attempt to have them convicted and imprisoned. Blake’s name was released, despite the wide-ranging criminality of Kaba’s associates being well known. Blake and his family are now in genuine danger of being murdered. Blake knew all these things would happen, and he still took the shot. That is how sure he was that it was necessary. God knows how we have any officers left who are prepared to take on the role.

He’s being blindly defended because he
was black. He’s being defended by wannabe social justice warriors incapable of looking at the actual facts of what happened and seeing at them through an objective lens.

He was, whatever the colour of his skin, a lawless scrote who played with fire and got burned. It’s a sad state of affairs that we have to have armed police but we 100% do because of people like Kuba who think they are above the law and behave in a way that puts the whole community at risk. People like him are bad for us all, black people and white people, young people and old. Whole communities shattered by violence, drugs and egos.

He was not a good person. His family are not good people.

The phrase ‘Black on Black’ crime is damaging because it promotes the idea that Black people are inherently more violent. I really don’t know how else to explain this.

When there’s gang violence going on in Liverpool or Sheffield and is being carried out by white males, no one refers to it as ‘White on White violence.’ That’s my point. I’m not denying that there’s a gang culture in SW London at all. I’m not going to keep going back and forth with this, feel free to do your own research about the phrase and why it’s damaging

The phrase ‘Black on Black’ crime is damaging because it promotes the idea that Black people are inherently more violent. I really don’t know how else to explain this.

When there’s gang violence going on in Liverpool or Sheffield and is being carried out by white males, no one refers to it as ‘White on White violence.’ That’s my point. I’m not denying that there’s a gang culture in SW London at all. I’m not going to keep going back and forth with this, feel free to do your own research about the phrase and why it’s damaging