Police officer cleared

I couldn’t agree more!

Well the family and all those on TV speaking have lost all credibility in my eyes. Not that my opinion matters at all.

@EasyTouch wonderful post. You should go into journalism

Being that was a gang rival he specifically hunted down I imagine his family are just as in denial about his affairs as the family of CK appear to be. It is bizarre they seem so blinded at the things he was involved in.

No. He is now likely to be subject to an internal disciplinary proceeding. It's absolutely outrageous. This is far from over for that poor man and his family

@EasyTouch thank you for being the voice of reason here. Everything you say is right. I wish there were more voices likes yours in the mainstream media today. What is going on is so damaging for our communities, and for what, defending the likesof scumbags like Kaba? It's absolute madness

Well, men like that don’t evolve out of nowhere. She raised a violent criminal so clearly has issues herself.

No, the whole point of prison is not rehabilitation! It’s also to protect the public from dangerous people who are not capable of being part of society, AND as a punishment for criminal behaviour.

He shot someone a week before who was being rehabilitated?

Thank you. The voice of reason.

@VickyPollard25 I wonder how the families of the man he shot in the leg feel about that or all the young men violently coerced into drug running feel about that.

I think there should be an enquiry into sadiq khan

Where can you show he was even interested in rehabilitation? Who exactly was going to rehabilitate him? If anything, this individual was on his way to more and more crime.

@Blankscreen they would have done better to admit what he was and defend that somehow.

Trying to portray him like Stephen Lawrence is not on.

The Mayor of London is a disgrace all round. I can only imagine it’s people like CK who vote for him time after time.

I can't believe people are trying to spin the yarn that Chris Kaba was trying to drive away as he may have been fearful after what happened to Sarah Everard.

That is disrespectful to Sarah and Sarah's family. It's a totally different set of circumstances and shouldn't be compared.

Funny how the picture shown of Chris Kaba is one of a happy looking smiling guy when truth be told he was a ruthless gang member with a serious violent crime. Didn't put a picture of him in his gang gear did they and now his history is coming out.

As for his family outside court of course they are sad that he has been shot but that doesn't pardon his violent history and for my part good riddance.

My sympathy lies with poor police officer and his family.

Murder doesn’t need to involve premeditation or planning, it just means that up to or in the moment of the killing, the perpetrator intended to kill or cause grievous bodily harm to the victim. Manslaughter is where the perpetrator didn’t intend this.

So for example if I walk out my front door, a random man calls me a fat cow and I go back in, get a knife and stab him to death, that would be murder as although I haven’t preplanned it, i intended to kill/GBH him. If I punch him in the face and he hits his head and dies, that’s manslaughter as I didn’t intend, or reasonably believe my punch would kill him.

You’re making a LOT of presumptions there but go off

This is interesting too - I wonder what the jurors wanted to say.

On Monday, the jury in the case took the unusual step of asking Mr Justice Goss if they could say something to the court when delivering their verdict.

Permission was denied, and an application by Jude Bunting KC on behalf of media organisations including the Daily Mail, Times, Telegraph and the BBC, to see the note was rejected.

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/media-audi-cps-times-bbc-b1189392.html

I have zero sympathy for Kaba. What does trouble me is the decision to name the policeman who killed him. He and his family will now need protection for the foreseeable future, possibly for the rest of his life. I don’t understand why his right to safety didn’t outweigh the decision to name him, which was apparently made after various media challenged the application to keep his identity anonymous?

Agree. It's quite perverse that nobody seems to be asking how the gang violence of Kaba and associates gets tackled, and instead the attention is focusing on the police response.

The gang crime is a far bigger problem with a far worse impact.

I think it was a murder charge because when he aimed the gun and fired the likelihood was that Kaba would die. So manslaughter isn't that the likelihood is that the victim will die. IYSWIM.
And I agree that the police officer should not have been charged. It was Kaba or a police officer who would die and I know who I would choose.

Great outcome - one less violent criminal on the streets. His family should be ashamed they raised a thug.

As a Black woman, I pray for the day that White female partners of Black men claiming to be pro Black....well I pray that they stop low key fetishising Black male criminality and care more about the Black women and children who mostly have to clean up after or suffer for it.
Fact is, your husband has a far greater chance of being murked by the actions of a Black Chris Kaba than the police.
Furthermore, Chris Kaba, the beater of a Black woman was NOT executed.
By any definition.

Revving the engine of a very weighty vehicle, hands on steering wheel, high off cocaine with the law standing right in front of you, telling you to get out of said vehicle after being tailed from one borough to another is as far away from an execution as possible.

Trust and believe; Black people in Black majority countries are wondering how the police let him get so far, so uncooperative, knowing that the vehicle was involved in a firearms incident the previous evening.
Funny how I and all the Black women that I know who obviously have Black male loved ones do not have "death by police" anywear near our mind fronts amongst any everyday thoughts about them.

Shit, even my distant cousin, a now dead member of the "Lettsom gang" ...his mother wasn't worried about the police.

Maybe if she was worried about anything, she'd have fixed him up before he did gun shit that got him murdered in retaliation.

It's beyond me why force teaming one's "pro Blackness" with seeing oneself in a career criminal who happens to be Black and male has become a hill to die on for a certain type of Black or White person...usually the types that will never move in the same circles...what with one side usually being criminal adjacent and another tertiary educated or other Middle class signified.

I can’t possibly catch up on this full thread, and I don’t know all the details to make a complete judgement but what alarms me is how many people are saying he was unarmed as if that’s fine. When used as he was using it, a 1.5 ton vehicle really should be considered a weapon IMO.

@Lndnmummy No one was "executed". Silly