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Soap84 · 21/10/2024 10:23

I need some opinions. I have 2 kids - 8 months and almost 4yrs. We've had the same babysitter since our oldest was 18m and she works at our daughter's nursery. She's 21, qualified and lovely. We trust her and are very happy to have her babysitting for us.

Her fees have always been £12ph and we always get food in for her and pay for her taxi home (we're in North London). We've arranged for her to babysit both kids for the first time but she's said her fees are £12 per child, so £24ph!!! Obviously babysitting a baby is more responsibility and we're happy to pay her more than £12, but double is out of our budget. It would mean £150-£200 before we've even gone out!

She has historically charged £12 per child when it's kids from different families (so the cost doesn't fall on one family) but this is just too high a cost for us.

I'm panicking because we don't have any family nearby, so her babysitting has been a bit of a lifeline and I don't want to undervalue her. But we also can't afford that high a cost, except for very very special occasions.

AIBU? Should I talk to her about it? What is the going rate for 2 kids?

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MiddleParking · 21/10/2024 11:14

Soap84 · 21/10/2024 10:41

For reference, our local friends have a babysitter (equally qualified, from a different nursery) look after their 2 young children for £14ph.

With my youngest being a baby, I was thinking more like £15-18ph.

Couldn’t you book their babysitter for your kids?

MrRobinsonsQuango · 21/10/2024 11:13

If you don’t want to pay it, then that’s fine. You don’t have to. She can charge what she wants to. Babies are much harder work than 4 year olds, as are 2 children versus 1

Soap84 · 21/10/2024 11:12

As I said, I don't want to undervalue her. I was interested to know what the going rate is, if I'm being unreasonable to panic at £24ph and if it's typical for babysitters to charge double. I don't think it is from the people who have answered that.

She is hugely trusted and valued and I don't want to find someone else. We have a great relationship with her, as does our daughter. I'm not trying to be a dick 😂 If it means we go out less, then so be it, but I wanted to canvass opinion to make sure I'm not being totally unreasonable before speaking to her.

£150-200 is rounding up but includes food and a taxi. I'm not talking about going past midnight, though she's happily done that for us before. But we're not doing that atm with a baby obviously.

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chickenpieandchips · 21/10/2024 11:11

Look at sitters. See what they charge for a comparison. They are all great, DBS, vetted. Lifeline for us when kids were small.

AnellaA · 21/10/2024 11:09

As pp said, you’re asking her to stay awake in your home for 6 to 8 hours (based on your cost estimate of £150 to £200 per booking).

So let’s say you are asking her to arrive at 6pm, and you’ll be back 6 hours later at midnight, therefore her Uber home might get her home shortly after midnight.

Or let’s say you would like her to arrive at 5pm and you’ll be back at 1am.

That’s bath and bedtime for two small kids, single handed. She has to stay awake to check on the baby and maybe resettle and do a late fee?

It is late working, you are paying for her particular skill and relationship with your kids, there are two kids. She is almost certainly underpaid for the care she provides your kids at nursery. Seems reasonable to me.

When we get a babysitter it is the grandparents, we don’t go out until 7pm and we are back by 10.30pm or 11pm.

If you can’t afford the babysitter can you adjust your plans or find a cheaper teenager to sit the kids?

Samesame47 · 21/10/2024 11:00

I would probably pay it if you are happy with her but I certainly wouldn’t then be providing food and transport costs on top.

MrSeptember · 21/10/2024 10:59

I think that's taking the piss. It's not unreasonable to pay a bit more for extra chidlren - although around here, babysitters only do that once it starts being extra extra eg ifyou send a friend's child round as well - but not double.

Also, you're already also paying for food and a taxi. So perhaps you should pay the £28 but stop paying for the taxi and food?

At the end of the day though, you pay what you are wiling to and she charges what she can find people willing to pay. At that price, I'd be looking for a new babysitter. One who I would upfront NOT offer to pay for a taxi for.

MsPossibly · 21/10/2024 10:58

£17/hr for 2 kids in London with longterm trusted former nanny. Makes me wince but £12 too little - and £24 too much!

leopardski · 21/10/2024 10:57

£12ph is astonishingly cheap for a qualified babysitter - I’m in the north west and pay £16. And there is a £5 surcharge for extra kids.

I’d maybe politely offer to meet her at around £20 and just see what she says. Perhaps she’s realised she’s cheap and is trying to up her fees.

StMarieforme · 21/10/2024 10:55

So you'd be going out for 6-8 hrs?! That's an awful long time to leave a small baby?

honeylulu · 21/10/2024 10:54

There's probably room to negotiate somewhere in the middle. It might be dependent on how in demand she is. If she hasn't got a waiting list of people happy to pay £24 and she's risking losing you as a regular customer she might be willing to accept less than what she's asked.

I get what people are saying, that it's cheap compared to a cleaner etc. But if you can't afford it then you can't afford it. My kids are older now but in the early years we limited ourselves to 2 babysitting bookings a year as any more than that we just couldn't afford to pay babysitter £50 before stepping out of the door (this was nearly 20 years ago)and the cost of going out on top.

Bigbus · 21/10/2024 10:54

I live in London and have had lots of babysitters over the years and now my teenagers babysit other kids. £24 an hour is completely ridiculous. I’m not sure where those who think it is are living? I’d say £15-£18 an hour for 2 kids is enough.

ACynicalDad · 21/10/2024 10:54

We have always paid for all the kids, but I think a bit more for one that's 8 months is reasonable, I'd offer £15 then go elsewhere.

DragonGypsyDoris · 21/10/2024 10:52

I bet HMRC would be interested to know her hourly rate for this work on the side.

Excited101 · 21/10/2024 10:52

£24 is ridiculous and ‘per child’ isn’t really a thing- unless it’s different families.

£12 is a tiny bit on the low side but not much, £13-£15 for nighttime babysitting is a lot more normal.

Seeline · 21/10/2024 10:49

doodleschnoodle · 21/10/2024 10:45

Also if you're saying it's £150-200, that means you're out between 6-8 hours, which is a long time!

Yes this!
Many sitters charge extra for hours after midnight so if she is charging a flat rate fee that's a bonus.

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 10:48

She's a qualified nursery worker, you get what you pay for.

I think it's refreshing that this young woman knows her worth and is willing to charge it.

I get that it's too expensive for you OP, but rather than try to push this qualified young woman's price down, you should look around for someone you can afford.

WhereIsMyLight · 21/10/2024 10:47

Soap84 · 21/10/2024 10:41

For reference, our local friends have a babysitter (equally qualified, from a different nursery) look after their 2 young children for £14ph.

With my youngest being a baby, I was thinking more like £15-18ph.

Then ask your local friends to pass on your details to their babysitter. If you want to keep the babysitter your child knows, you’ll need to pay what she wants paying and you go out less.

doodleschnoodle · 21/10/2024 10:45

Also if you're saying it's £150-200, that means you're out between 6-8 hours, which is a long time!

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 21/10/2024 10:44

£24 an hour!!!

Jesus that's more than junior doctors isn't it? It's def more than a TA gets and they have 30 kids to look after.

I think she is being greedy op - fair enough charge a bit more for an extra child but that is too much.

doodleschnoodle · 21/10/2024 10:43

That's what I would expect to pay tbh, especially given it's London. £12ph is very low for childcare. As a PP said, I pay £18 an hour for a cleaner and I'm in the north of Scotland, so I would expect to pay more than that for someone early years qualified looking after my two young children, one of which is a baby.

You could get cheaper definitely, but it might be more akin to a teenager making some pocket money type thing than a qualified childcare professional who presumably has first aid, etc. But if you're asking whether it's unreasonable for her to charge that, no I don't think it is. Women in particular often undervalue themselves and their skills so it's good she's not doing that.

mitogoshigg · 21/10/2024 10:43

I've charged £15 per hour plus £5per child more than 2. I'm not a nursery teacher but I am an experienced mother whose children are adults. My one semi regular family always round up and tip on top but they have a dc with non verbal autism and apparently I'm the only person other than her mum in Spain willing to babysit, but he's lovely and good for me! (My dc has asd so I have the experience!)

Soap84 · 21/10/2024 10:41

For reference, our local friends have a babysitter (equally qualified, from a different nursery) look after their 2 young children for £14ph.

With my youngest being a baby, I was thinking more like £15-18ph.

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LemonLime9 · 21/10/2024 10:40

£12 an hour for London was cheap though when I looked on childcare most wanted £20 an hour

TheYearOfSmallThings · 21/10/2024 10:39

I wouldn't consider it for a moment. On Mumsnet you will get lots of people saying you should pay more than minimum wage, but in real life there are plenty of lovely and competent people more than happy to look after two children for £12 an hour and a taxi home.

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