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Why did you not vaccinated you're baby/child

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Clocloxx · 20/10/2024 19:52

Just that really, parents who choose not to vaccinated their children what made you decide? How are you're kids now do they get sick often ? Any allergies?
I don't want this turning into a debate of why you should vaccinated you're child I'm simply asking parents why they choose not too? So if you can't respect people's decisions not to vaccinated please don't answer on this thread

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Sharptonguedwoman · 21/10/2024 09:34

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:34

Wow. My comment has been deleted.

I repeat. It was on the NHS Website and confirmed by the nurse that the rotavirus vaccine was sending babies to hospital for surgery for twisted bowels.

Absolute disgrace to delete my comment.

Mortality reduction benefits and intussusception risks of rotavirus vaccination in 135 low-income and middle-income countries: a modelling analysis of current and alternative schedules - The Lancet Global Health

From the Lancet.

VioletCrawleyForever · 21/10/2024 00:45

I think this article explains it well @Clocloxx

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/anti-vaccination-family-has-built-up-natural-immunity-to-facts-20170808133634?

glasses5432 · 20/10/2024 23:32

I didn't have the flu vaccine in pregnancy and my youngest hasn't had the flu vaccine the last few years after a bad experience with the school nursing team. Both kids had one covid vaccine but not the second although that was really just timing as by the time they were due for the booster it wasn't readily available anymore and didn't seem worth it. They've both had all the standard jabs and one of the meningitis ones privately (Men C maybe) that they just missed on NHS. Eldest had HPV last year. Youngest will have that too although I will probably will have to work out a way to get it done outside of school to avoid dreaded school nursing team.

Jellytrain · 20/10/2024 23:01

Other children who are too young or sick to be vaccinated will die because of your selfish I'll informed decision. That is a fact. Vaccination, along with clean water and antibiotics is the reason we have our current life expectancy as opposed to Victorian times.

chipsaway · 20/10/2024 21:44

Why is that? It’s actually not the same. Do your research on each and every vaccine.
bacterial vaccines are different to airborne.
did you know vaccines cannot be ethically trialled in kids and pregancy but was wildly used in covid. WE DO NoT know long term effects of this period!!!

Bushmillsbabe · 20/10/2024 21:42

We declined the TB baby vaccine, as we looked at the reasons we were being offered it - mainly due to baby being born near Heathrow. We were due to move soon after birth to a very low risk area where vaccine was not routinely offered to babies.

We also spread out the vaccines on medical advice.

chipsaway · 20/10/2024 21:38

Everyone should do what is right for them and. What they feel is the correct choice. That was my choice and the correct decision for me and my girls

Londonrach1 · 20/10/2024 21:38

I did and every single parent I know has so far apart from one. That one parent made a decision re one vaccine due to medical advice as child was unwell at the time and on medication that wasn't allowed to be taken at same time as vaccine, but did vaccine 6 months later when the reason she couldn't vaccine was resolved. I as a child was vaccinated against everything but one which followed doctor advice my parents choose not to get me vaccinated. I reacted very badly and had a fit as a toddler when I had a certain first injection and the gp advised I was not vaccinated on the second jab and I had separate vaccinations apart from that one. However as an adult I have now been vaccinated but I had to sit in a hospital for 30 mins after the vaccine in the reception area. Luckily I didn't react like I did as a Toddler so now fully vaccinated, something I know my mum worried about for years. Never totally judge someone as you don't always know the reasons behind a decision.

DownWhichOfLate · 20/10/2024 21:37

@chipsaway - that’s interesting about the flu vaccinations, I know they aren’t particularly effective, is that why you didn’t get your children done?

chipsaway · 20/10/2024 21:30

I’m a nurse. I didn’t allow the flu vaccines for my girls. They’ve never been ill with it and haven’t passed it on. I don’t agree with it.
They didn’t have the Covid vaccine either. They did have MMR however
and before I’m criticised I do prescribe drugs and I do research drug trials which I undertook before making my decision on all the above!

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 21:25

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 21:24

I feel like I’m arguing with a 10 year old. I don’t think others view you the way that you see yourself. Take a breath and try to understand what I’m saying here.

Hope you learn to apply more effective risk/benefit analysis and therefore make safer decisions for your child in the future.

I know the feeling.

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 21:24

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 21:12

No, you're highlighting your inability to apply logic effectively based on what I've said. As I said in a previous comment, the vaccine would not have been pulled twice If the risk wasn't substantial. If you really can't see that, I'm not wasting my time on you.

Also, I don't need to construct an argument. I'm not looking for an argument. The information stands as it is.

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I feel like I’m arguing with a 10 year old. I don’t think others view you the way that you see yourself. Take a breath and try to understand what I’m saying here.

Hope you learn to apply more effective risk/benefit analysis and therefore make safer decisions for your child in the future.

Fidgety31 · 20/10/2024 21:24

None of my children had any vaccines . They are all grown up now and were not sickly as children .
It was the choice I made at the time . And for the record - I am very well educated (postgraduate) so it wasn’t because I’m too thick to make an informed decision !

nocoolnamesleft · 20/10/2024 21:23

Failure to vaccinate deserves the same respect as failure to strap a small child into a car seat: none at all, because it is child endangerment.

DownWhichOfLate · 20/10/2024 21:18

Aren’t vaccines usually pulled very quickly if any doubt, then once deemed safe reinstated as quickly? That would seem the logical explanation.

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 21:12

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 21:09

The few posts you’ve placed here highlight your inability to reason or to apply logic effectively. Your claim of a law degree doesn’t offset that.

Lawyers also usually try to construct an argument to back up their position, rather than telling the opposition to ‘F£&$ Off’. Did they teach you that as part of your degree?

No, you're highlighting your inability to apply logic effectively based on what I've said. As I said in a previous comment, the vaccine would not have been pulled twice If the risk wasn't substantial. If you really can't see that, I'm not wasting my time on you.

Also, I don't need to construct an argument. I'm not looking for an argument. The information stands as it is.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/10/2024 21:11

With a law degree, I would beg to differ.

With a science degree, can we play Top Trumps?

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 21:09

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:53

With a law degree, I would beg to differ. I am able to research and think for myself based on the information presented to me. Or are you also arguing with confirmed NHS information? Please move along.

The few posts you’ve placed here highlight your inability to reason or to apply logic effectively. Your claim of a law degree doesn’t offset that.

Lawyers also usually try to construct an argument to back up their position, rather than telling the opposition to ‘F£&$ Off’. Did they teach you that as part of your degree?

TreeCake · 20/10/2024 20:58

People that don’t vaccinate are extremely uneducated. Unless there’s a medical reason obviously. Absolute idiots.

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:53

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 20:51

🤣🤣🤣🤣
I retract my earlier comment where I said you had two braincells.

With a law degree, I would beg to differ. I am able to research and think for myself based on the information presented to me. Or are you also arguing with confirmed NHS information? Please move along.

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 20:51

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:49

No, I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of direct risk. Injecting something directly into a newborn baby that has confirmed risk is very different from risking the chance that they could catch a virus from somebody else.

I have no need to respond to your attempts at insulting my intelligence, either. That actually shows more the level at which you operate, thank you.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣
I retract my earlier comment where I said you had two braincells.

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:49

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 20:44

🤣🤣

But you already did put your child at ‘direct risk’ (in your own book) when you got your child on track with the rest of the vaccine schedule. The vaccines you did accept also have risks.

Not to mention the real ‘direct risk’ that you put your child under but not getting that vaccine.

I didn’t report your comment for telling me to ‘F&@* off’ btw. I was happy to allow it to sit there to expose the level at which you operate.

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No, I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of direct risk. Injecting something directly into a newborn baby that has confirmed risk is very different from risking the chance that they could catch a virus from somebody else.

I have no need to respond to your attempts at insulting my intelligence, either. That actually shows more the level at which you operate, thank you.

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:46

VivaVivaa · 20/10/2024 20:35

The risk of intussusception from rotavirus vaccine is estimated to be between 1 in 50,000 and 1 in 100,000 (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/rotavirus/about-intussusception.html). Your baby is much more likely to die from severe diarrhoea than vaccine induced bowel injury.

Also, that's the website for the US. And as I've said, the vaccine was pulled twice, 7 years ago. It wouldn't have been pulled if the risk wasn't substantial.

I have no idea where things stand with the current vaccine as I've had no need to research that in the past 7 years.

Amanitacae · 20/10/2024 20:44

PepaWepa · 20/10/2024 20:35

No, I wouldn't. I wasn't putting my child at direct risk of that.

🤣🤣

But you already did put your child at ‘direct risk’ (in your own book) when you got your child on track with the rest of the vaccine schedule. The vaccines you did accept also have risks.

Not to mention the real ‘direct risk’ that you put your child under but not getting that vaccine.

I didn’t report your comment for telling me to ‘F&@* off’ btw. I was happy to allow it to sit there to expose the level at which you operate.

VivaVivaa · 20/10/2024 20:42

It’s always the people who state ‘I did my own research’ that clearly have no idea about the difference between causation vs correlation or survivor bias.