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School don't send home books any more

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Applesandbananaz · 20/10/2024 19:36

My DC's school have done away with reading books and instead children will learn to read on tablets.

All books will be available to read online only. AIBU to think this is terrible? We don't have a tablet and don't want our children reading on screens. I don't know how to approach the school. Am sure loads of children will be reading on their parents' phones

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HerbalHotpants · 20/10/2024 21:45

This is so sad.

TempsPerdu · 20/10/2024 21:42

And yes - Songbirds much better. With Little Wandle we keep getting the same books repeated as they're so expensive the school couldn't afford enough sets to have a genuine range of reading material.

TempsPerdu · 20/10/2024 21:40

The reasons will be all those outlined above: cost-saving, the joys of 'fidelity to the scheme' and books being lost/ruined at home.

Our school's chosen scheme is Little Wandle too, but thankfully we still have real books sent home (and DD js now in Year 2 and pretty much done with it now anyway). If they reverted to digital I'd refuse to read the online books and just top up with library and home books instead. I do feel sorry for families without the resources to do this though - there's so much evidence now that reading on a screen is inferior to reading physical books in terms of information processing and long-term recall.

imisscashmere · 20/10/2024 21:39

Bunnycat101 · 20/10/2024 20:00

I would recommend getting the complete set of songbirds phonics for home. I think they’re much better stories than most of the school books we’ve had and my children made much more progress with them. Usborne first readers are nice to have but I think they jump up very quickly in difficulty.

My eldest had the online subscription during Covid and it was rubbish really. She didn’t mind doing it because there was some sort of treehouse to build if you collected points through answering comprehension questions but it takes away from sitting cuddled up and reading. I tried it for a week and then hit Amazon.

Completely agree with the comments re Songbirds and Usborne.

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 21:38

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 20/10/2024 21:32

They had parents who cared about school property and would bring books back. I’d say about 20% of the books that get given out either don’t come back or when they do they are in such a state as to be unusable.

Then have a 3 strikes and you're out rule. 3 strikes and your child gets no more books and doesn't learn to read

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 21:37

I bet this is Michael Gove's fault some how

JSMill · 20/10/2024 21:33

I knew it would be Little Wandle! The problem if you send home a set of books to a group and someone doesn't bring a copy back, then you don't have enough for each child in the next group. I can understand where the school is coming from.

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 20/10/2024 21:32

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 20:56

It is the schools fault - what did schools do before technology?
Why change scheme if they knew they couldn’t afford the accompanying resources?

I am so saddened by this because for many children these physical books would be the only ones they would have at home.

They had parents who cared about school property and would bring books back. I’d say about 20% of the books that get given out either don’t come back or when they do they are in such a state as to be unusable.

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 21:30

Heidi2018 · 20/10/2024 19:45

Parents in my school are constantly complaining about students having to carry books to and from school. We have been encouraged to not assign work directly from books, unless they can access the books online. It's a pain.

They're complaining about their kids carrying books??

Applesandbananaz · 20/10/2024 21:29

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 21:18

I do understand that, I’m an ex teacher myself. The government approved list is also quite expansive.
What is the schools scheme op?

The new one is Little Wandle

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DinosaurMunch · 20/10/2024 21:24

Macaroni46 · 20/10/2024 21:12

It is not the school's fault. Blame ofsted. They insist that schools follow a government accredited phonics scheme and that includes children only reading books from the scheme where the child knows each sound making the whole process incredibly expensive as well as laborious, unnecessarily complicated and boring to the pupils.

I accept it's expensive but actually the books are really varied and are well made - they've obviously put a lot of effort into catering for different interests, the illustrations are great, mix of fact and fiction. They are certainly no worse in terms of story than other reading scheme books - they're always a bit limited in the early stages. The children are all learning really well too - every child in the class can read all the sounds which is a big surprise to me having attended schools where a good proportion still couldn't really read by secondary.

Hercisback1 · 20/10/2024 21:23

The list is relatively long but if you didn't use a scheme on it before, it costs a lot to overhaul.

crumblingschools · 20/10/2024 21:20

Probably cheaper to have e-scheme of books and parents can’t lose them

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 21:18

I do understand that, I’m an ex teacher myself. The government approved list is also quite expansive.
What is the schools scheme op?

Serencwtch · 20/10/2024 21:15

Ours do supply tablets on loan to families who aren't able to access them so it might be worth asking if you need some help as you won't be the only ones struggling.

Time spent reading with children & what they are reading is more important than whether it's on paper or tablet. It's a sensible decision for a lot of schools as can access more books at lower cost

Libraries & charity shops are good sources of children's 'real' books if you want them.

Macaroni46 · 20/10/2024 21:12

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 20:56

It is the schools fault - what did schools do before technology?
Why change scheme if they knew they couldn’t afford the accompanying resources?

I am so saddened by this because for many children these physical books would be the only ones they would have at home.

It is not the school's fault. Blame ofsted. They insist that schools follow a government accredited phonics scheme and that includes children only reading books from the scheme where the child knows each sound making the whole process incredibly expensive as well as laborious, unnecessarily complicated and boring to the pupils.

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 21:10

Bushmillsbabe · 20/10/2024 21:08

2 years ago my daughters school didn't send home physical books and parents were not happy, they understandably preferred a book to a screen.

Last year parents were offered the option of physical books, but had to sign a contract to say if lost or damaged the books would pay the cost (£4.75). Only 3 books in total were lost or badly damaged, if people need to pay for them they take much better care of them

I was going to suggest this!

Bearne · 20/10/2024 21:08

Gagaandgag · 20/10/2024 20:56

It is the schools fault - what did schools do before technology?
Why change scheme if they knew they couldn’t afford the accompanying resources?

I am so saddened by this because for many children these physical books would be the only ones they would have at home.

Because schools had to change to a government-approved phonics scheme. Keeping your old scheme and its accompanying books wasn't an option if it wasn't on the list.

Bushmillsbabe · 20/10/2024 21:08

2 years ago my daughters school didn't send home physical books and parents were not happy, they understandably preferred a book to a screen.

Last year parents were offered the option of physical books, but had to sign a contract to say if lost or damaged the books would pay the cost (£4.75). Only 3 books in total were lost or badly damaged, if people need to pay for them they take much better care of them

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/10/2024 21:06

I’m shocked by this. DD is in year 1 and brings home a new phonics book every other day. Some are better than others but from now on I’ll appreciate them being made from actual paper!

JSMill · 20/10/2024 21:05

I suspect the school is sick of pupils not bringing back expensive books. I spent so much time chasing parents and children for books when I was a TA. It's really pissing off to see almost brand new books disappear because parents and children don't value them.

DinosaurMunch · 20/10/2024 21:03

Applesandbananaz · 20/10/2024 20:50

It seems like such a race to the bottom. They have reading books but they don't fit with the "reading scheme" so they will be disposed of. It really isn't about not being able to afford books

I agree it's stupid. Ours still send real books but a lot do get lost which is hard to understand - I guess people don't value the books or they would take more care of them.

I wouldn't bother with the reading if it was on a screen. They read the phonics books 3x in school anyway before they send them home. You can get bundles of phonics books second hand fairly cheap. Our library has a lot too.

HouseFullOfChaos · 20/10/2024 21:03

We had this for one term before the school bought the books. It was a nightmare. When you're trying to help the kids by pointing out a split digraph or something you can't touch the page because on a tablet touching the page turns the page. We thankfully have lots of books at home (all from teaching child1 to read during covid), we used those and didn't sign the reading diary until we got a real book.

110APiccadilly · 20/10/2024 21:02

It's sad to hear other libraries don't have a good selection - I assumed the good variety we have in ours was standard.

110APiccadilly · 20/10/2024 20:59

Applesandbananaz · 20/10/2024 20:22

@110APiccadilly as in not in the children's section of the library? We are in Suffolk. I've scoured the children's sections but hadn't thought to look in the adult part

They were next to children's but in a separate area if that makes sense?

Another thing you could try is ordering the books for the reading scheme from the library , but I guess you'd need to find out from the school exactly what they are in advance, and I don't know what the odds are that the library would be to get them.