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About DD's name

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user873628 · 20/10/2024 17:21

DH and I have a 9 month old DD. We chose the name Lottie for her, but wanted her to have a formal name so her BC is Charlotte. We always intended to call her Lottie and never call her Charlotte. When she is bigger she may choose to go by Charlotte/Charlie but for now she is definitely Lottie.

In laws hate the name Lottie and always have. They say it sounds like a Victorian servant and is ridiculous and refuse to use it. I find this rude, DH doesn't. In laws do a lot to help us out and are kind people at heart but there is a lot of history between us. Won't go in to what but it's important for the sake of this thread as a small issue ('please call her Lottie') could descend in to absolute chaos quite quickly.

DD is at the age where she should be learning her name, and so I've asked DH to ask in-laws to call her Lottie whilst she is learning it, so as not to confuse her, particularly when they have her for an hour or two without us. DH said he would but they've just come to take her out and repeatedly called her Charlotte and DH said absolutely nothing. I've asked him why now that they've left and he said it's going to cause a huge issue and he doesn't want to get involved. AIBU to want her called by the name we use at the moment?

Just to add, I have no issue with them using Charlotte when she's bigger, but right now she is learning her name and I want to avoid confusion.

OP posts:
MustWeDoThis · 21/10/2024 19:16

Your DD is not yet cognitively developed enough to understand. I think it's OK for them to call her Charlotte, but it's hugely disrespectful towards you and your wishes. She is your child. Lottie is a beautiful name. It's also a name used in Phantom of the Opera, for Christine:

"Little Lotte is the name of a character in a poem called A Child's first sorrow by Andreas Munch. Christine and Raul used to read it before her father died, and Christine adopted the name. It is also a name of an old game where the little lotte has too chose from three items."

MistyF · 21/10/2024 19:12

MonsteraMama · 20/10/2024 17:28

I got called four different names by different members of my family my entire childhood, Reba by my parents, Rebbie by my siblings, Becca or Becs by my maternal grandparents and Nutty by my paternal grandparents. Oh and I suppose my great gran insisted on Rebecca so five. It caused precisely zero issues for me learning my name, and did me no damage whatsoever being called different things by different people.

I appreciate there's a backstory with your ILs but I really don't think the nickname/name/pet name they use for your child is a hill worth dying on. I'm sure however I'll be in the minority with this view on here.

(Realistically if you are dead set on her being Lottie that's what you should've called her, then at least you'd have the argument "that's her name" on your side!)

I agree with this.

AlllSeeingEye · 21/10/2024 19:08

YABU. This is silly. Her name is Charlotte. What's the point in only calling her a name that's not her legal name and then getting funny when someone uses her legal name?

MagicFarawayTea · 21/10/2024 18:53

TheCultureHusks · 20/10/2024 17:23

9 months? She wouldn’t be going anywhere with them alone!

Why the hell not?

LorettyTen · 21/10/2024 18:36

I understand partly, because I get mad when my in laws call me by a short version of my name that I hate, but why on earth call your daughter by a name you don't want her to be known by?

ErinAoife · 21/10/2024 18:35

If her name on her birth certificate is Charlotte, I don't see the problem if her grands parent called her that, I'd you really wanted to call her Lottie it should have been on her birth certificate in my opinion.

MrsMrsD · 21/10/2024 18:15

So you chose Charlotte for her BC and sulk when people call her that? If you want people to call her Lottie then you should have just chosen Lottie. I don't understand why people put a different name on the BC. Just name them the name you want, it's 2024.

pineapplesundae · 21/10/2024 17:43

choose your battles. In-laws hate Lottie and that’s okay since her actual name is Charlotte. I love Charlotte, not Lottie so much so I’m actually with the in-laws, sorry. That being said, I had three nicknames as a child and I answered to all of them. I wasn’t confused at all.

BunnyLake · 21/10/2024 15:14

CharlotteLucas3 · 20/10/2024 18:44

@BunnyLake that's not my real name. Charlotte Lucas is from Pride and Prejudice :)

Oh ha 😁

BunnyLake · 21/10/2024 11:49

User100000000000 · 20/10/2024 21:42

Change her name. Honestly, the name regret will always piss you off. She's young enough for it to be changed and not know

I wouldn’t change her name, she might want to have the options of both when she’s older.

BunnyLake · 21/10/2024 11:43

ShillyShallySherbet · 20/10/2024 18:52

My mum has a thing about certain names being servant names, particularly shortened versions of longer traditional names. So many names I liked she’d say “oh that’s a servant’s name” it’s weird isn’t it! In the end I stopped discussing baby name ideas with her!

Maybe she read a lot of Catherine Cookson😁 Because of Upstairs Downstairs for years Ruby was very much a scullery maid type name to me (and Daisy). It took quite a while to move away from that.

Natsku · 21/10/2024 04:17

AhBiscuits · 20/10/2024 20:22

She can DEFINITELY handle learning two names for herself. Many children are learning two or more languages from the start.

Edited

Heh, my son is bilingual, for a while as a toddler he would refer to himself as one name in English and another name in Finnish, as he strongly associated those names with the languages (the English name being Baby Grin) which made logical sense as mum and dad had different names in the different languages, so why not his name

mollyfolk · 20/10/2024 23:24

user873628 · 20/10/2024 21:14

I'm bowing out of this thread now because I'm honestly pretty pathetic and am getting a wee bit upset by all the people telling me I'm a moron (fully accept that I am as per the poll). Thanks so much for the genuine advice. It is really useful to be reminded that I was being ridiculous about the name confusion and loads of people go by multiple names.

Edit: I re-read the above and the thanks sounds sarcy and a bit arsey but it's genuine!

Edited

I don't think you are a moron at all.

Look the comment about a Victorian servant is a massive red flag that you will have bigger issues ahead with these in-laws.

Save yourself for the bigger rows ahead!

mollyfolk · 20/10/2024 23:10

Just let this one go. My DS has a long name and apparently DH only agreed to it because I was very ill after the birth and never liked it, So I call him the long name and DH call him by a nickname version and friends and family differ too depending on who they know best.

Anyway, he's never got confused at all.

I myself have a name with several pet versions and different people who come from different stages of my life call me different names. Only people who know me through work call me by my actual long name.

Fugliest · 20/10/2024 22:36

andthat · 20/10/2024 20:14

The name is a red herring.

The real issue is your PIL’s don’t respect your wishes and your DH refuses to pull them up on it.

You’ve got years of this ahead I’m afraid…

This is what its all about. Spend some time @user873628 reflecting on the bigger picture where the behaviorial issues of ILs will escalate on birth of DGD.

AegonT · 20/10/2024 21:51

My kids both have full names on birth certificates but have always been called short versions. They knew their short versions first but due to occasional use of the long versions by some people quickly knew them too. I think they are being a very rude and Lottie is a lovely nickname but I voted YABU as I don't think it will confuse her that her grandparents call her Charlotte, and it is her name. I would tell them they are being rude about her nickname but leave them to call her by her full name.

Spreadtheluv · 20/10/2024 21:49

My son is older but my In-laws always call him by his full name and not the shortened version we use. It's never bothered us & he answers to both names. His friends call him a different shortened version 😂

Gonewiththetwins · 20/10/2024 21:42

My name is Charlotte, the majority of my family have always called me Lottie (including parents, who still do even in my 30’s), but I’ve always referred to myself as Charlotte as feels more me. Ultimately as you’ve given her a name that has multiple ‘nicknames’ there was always a strong possibility others would choose a version they prefer to use. If you wanted to avoid this you should have literally just called her Lottie to avoid confusion.

User100000000000 · 20/10/2024 21:42

Change her name. Honestly, the name regret will always piss you off. She's young enough for it to be changed and not know

Mischance · 20/10/2024 21:20

They say it sounds like a Victorian servant and is ridiculous and refuse to use it. - unbelievable. I hope you have told them they are being ridiculous. Do not pander to this. Tell them they must call her Lottie and brook no argument.

DrinkUpBabyDown · 20/10/2024 21:19

user873628 · 20/10/2024 18:17

DH didn't want to discuss it when I was pregnant because we couldn't agree. I tried to sort a name out a million times. We also didn't know the gender.

I know this isn't totally the point of the thread but I had such a similar experience. We decided on our daughter's name as we were on our way to the registration office at 6 weeks. I like it now and it suits her but it wouldn't have been my choice and I have a wobble about it every few months. My husband talks about how difficult it was to come up with a name and how we both worked so hard but the truth is he didn't want to engage when I talked about names, other than vetoing the ones I really liked. So I really sympathise.

user873628 · 20/10/2024 21:14

I'm bowing out of this thread now because I'm honestly pretty pathetic and am getting a wee bit upset by all the people telling me I'm a moron (fully accept that I am as per the poll). Thanks so much for the genuine advice. It is really useful to be reminded that I was being ridiculous about the name confusion and loads of people go by multiple names.

Edit: I re-read the above and the thanks sounds sarcy and a bit arsey but it's genuine!

OP posts:
BetterWithPockets · 20/10/2024 21:14

Notwhatuwanttohear · 20/10/2024 19:15

Couldn't agree more.

Her Name is on the birth certificate and that's what they're using yet op is getting upset they won't call her by something else.

If you wanted her to be named Lottie then that's what you should have named her.

And yet I disagree! The GPs should, I think, use whatever name the child’s parents have asked them to use — regardless of what’s on the birth certificate.

OP, I’d be upset in this situation too — with your ILs for deliberately ignoring your wishes, and with your DH for not supporting you when you and he have both agreed on Lottie.

fridayposey · 20/10/2024 21:11

We had this issue with our DD, different name but same thing. In-laws would only use full name at first but at some point they just started to use the name that everyone else calls her because that's her name. I'd just let it go, baby won't care and it won't affect her learning her own name.

VivianLea · 20/10/2024 21:05

What's with all the childcare comments? Very funny to me how many people can't fathom a grandparent spending time with their grandchildren of their own free will.

OP, it's very annoying that your DH won't stand up for your preferred name. But please don't worry about confusing your DD, she will not be confused by someone calling her something different a few hours a week. You and her dad and everyone normal you know call her Lottie most of the time.

Lord knows my poor DC used to get called the most absurd things when they were babies, every family member had their own nicknames and me and DH always were inventing new ones. I think we used more nicknames than real names at that age. When my own DS was 9 months old my dad (say DS's name is Noah) used to call DS Noahsaurussauceababyoh (Noah-saurus-sauce-a-baby-oh), and I used to call DS 'Noahlala Sweet Koala'. DS is totally unscathed and always knew his real name!