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My dad is a massive conspiracy theorist and it's so frustrating

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patrilla · 20/10/2024 09:37

Can anyone relate and how do you not make it drive you insane ??

He's visiting at the moment and it's just all doom and gloom constantly.

He's so extremely negative about literally everything and everything is proof that we are controlled by this elite group of people who just want to make sure we are controlled and destroyed.

Everything is a rip off and we have no liberties. We are all just sheep being ripped off and we are all really dumb apparently.

Say we need to pay for parking or we need to be careful not to drive in yellow boxes, as we can get fined- he takes all of it as a sign of control. If a place doesn't take cash, it's also a control thing and we are so dumb for going along with it all.

It's literally every little thing. Everything is so shit now and the world is ending. Don't even get me started on a nuclear war being absolutely imminent.

It's exhausting to be around.

Does anyone else know someone like this ? How do you deal with it ?

Don't even get me started on Covid. It's just everything. Everything is questioned, everyone is corrupt. Apart from the people spouting this stuff. They're the only ones telling the truth.

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IsawwhatIsaw · 20/10/2024 10:46

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 10:32

It's really sad isn't it. Vulnerable people preyed on by conspiracy theorists spreading their weird rubbish.

I still find it a bit sad. He had some good qualities, but his views became more extreme. Anger at Vaccines, other views revealed him basically as a misogynist. It has now caused issues in his own home

newnamethanks · 20/10/2024 10:43

@catin8oots but they're not house-trained. Can't have them indoors I'd rather have a dozen Witnesses at the door.

Fuckitydoodah · 20/10/2024 10:43

I've got a family member like this. They won't drink tap water as mind controlling chemicals are being added to it, won't get their children vaccinated against anything, the illuminati exist and the day of reckoning is upon us. I've given up arguing with them. They 100% believe everything they spout. Sadly, friends and family are beginning to avoid them.

I suspect deeper rooted mental health issues.

Allmarbleslost · 20/10/2024 10:38

I have a friend whose husband is like this. He's racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic (an actual real life holocaust denier) and one of the most unintelligent people I've ever met. Why my friend is still married to him I will never understand.

ExtraOnions · 20/10/2024 10:37

People like this think they are very very intelligent, and the rest of us are idiots. They are the “only ones” who have worked it all out. We are all “sheep”

Rather than they are easily led people, who interact within an echo chamber of other fantasists, who desperately want to believe they are important, but in reality, have very little personal power.

catin8oots · 20/10/2024 10:36

Oh I love me a conspiracy fantasist! I find them fascinating and hilarious in equal amounts.

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:35

Dontlletmedownbruce · 20/10/2024 10:32

As @Jewel1968 says, isn't the issue the fact that he keeps giving his views and ranting rather than the views themselves. It's interesting isn't it. There are many things in life that my views don't align with friends or family but we just accept it and don't bring it up. We certainly don't try to persuade others to agree. It seems the more niche the theory the more vocal the conspiracy theorist is.

It's just constant with the views. That's exactly the issue. You can't have a normal conversation without it coming up. Everything is a sign of the world being utter shit. He finds examples of it in everything we do.

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Pippa246 · 20/10/2024 10:35

BIL is the same - each time a “theory” gets debunked (eg microchips inside vaccines) he moves onto the next one. Wayfair shipping toddlers for sale inside furniture was a particularly enlightening one! And all controlled by Hilary Clinton apparently.

Mysterian · 20/10/2024 10:33

Believing in bollocks because you're not bright enough to understand how things actually works is pretty common.

If one person believes in bollocks they're mad.
If a hundred people believe in bollocks they're a cult.
If a million people believe in bollocks they're a religion.

It's still just bollocks.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 10:32

IsawwhatIsaw · 20/10/2024 10:31

We had a friend like this. He seemed to become worse since Covid. No longer any contact as he would dominate conversations with his views and it became too much.

It's really sad isn't it. Vulnerable people preyed on by conspiracy theorists spreading their weird rubbish.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 20/10/2024 10:32

As @Jewel1968 says, isn't the issue the fact that he keeps giving his views and ranting rather than the views themselves. It's interesting isn't it. There are many things in life that my views don't align with friends or family but we just accept it and don't bring it up. We certainly don't try to persuade others to agree. It seems the more niche the theory the more vocal the conspiracy theorist is.

IsawwhatIsaw · 20/10/2024 10:31

We had a friend like this. He seemed to become worse since Covid. No longer any contact as he would dominate conversations with his views and it became too much.

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:30

@thepariscrimefiles he doesn't see it for what it is. He's not actually anti semitic, but doesn't realise that those theories are that.

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thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 10:28

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:24

Apparently ' they ' want to cause unrest and they want us to have basically no rights.

' they ' is everyone. Apparently trump doesn't belong to 'them'. I asked how come trump won the election then, if all the other politicians belong to ' them '. Apparently because trump has money.

But other than trump, all other politicians belong to the group.

It's really neo nazi stuff - hugely anti Semitic. As these theories pretty much all blame wealthy Jewish families on everything. There's a lot of talk about them owning the federal reserve banks etc etc etc. and therefore controlling everything.

So he believes the really horrible racist/anti-semitic stuff? Can you reduce your contact with him?

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 10:24

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:21

It's quite cult like too. I've heard him watching videos about ' non believers ' and making us all out as ' sheep '. It's extremely frustrating to deal with him.

You can spot them a mile off. They have stock phrases and 'sheep' or 'sheeple' and 'non believers' or the 'unawake'.... it feels very cult like

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:24

Apparently ' they ' want to cause unrest and they want us to have basically no rights.

' they ' is everyone. Apparently trump doesn't belong to 'them'. I asked how come trump won the election then, if all the other politicians belong to ' them '. Apparently because trump has money.

But other than trump, all other politicians belong to the group.

It's really neo nazi stuff - hugely anti Semitic. As these theories pretty much all blame wealthy Jewish families on everything. There's a lot of talk about them owning the federal reserve banks etc etc etc. and therefore controlling everything.

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TeenLifeMum · 20/10/2024 10:23

Oh god yes! My sensible, intelligent father has gone down a rabbit warren of social media nonsense and can’t tell fact from fiction. He thinks Trump is a great guy and conversations are impossible. I miss being able to talk to him.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 10:23

Sadly some people are more prone to this. A tiny grain of truth and some will then believe absorbs of things. I mean who in 2024 thinks the earth is flat. It feels like intelligence is failing some who watch YouTube and twitter

patrilla · 20/10/2024 10:21

It's quite cult like too. I've heard him watching videos about ' non believers ' and making us all out as ' sheep '. It's extremely frustrating to deal with him.

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Createausername1970 · 20/10/2024 10:13

My sister is bordering on this, but hasn't quite got to this stage. She is still in what I call "Daily Mail" mode.

If she starts on a rant I have started saying "is this from the daily mail or is there any actual truth in it". It did take the wind out of her sails the first time I said it 😁

Victoriancat · 20/10/2024 10:13

My mam and her friends are a lot like it, sharing videos of what's really in our food and water, everything is a conspiracy to get us to vote a certain way (though this is every election so I never understand WHO is meant to be setting this up 😂)

newnamethanks · 20/10/2024 10:11

It's a cult like all other cults. I swear if Trump or Russell Brand suggested they all drink the Kool Aid, they would do it. Even if it were true, and we are 'all being controlled' for some unknown nefarious purpose, so what? What are 'they' going to do to us? Apart from 'controlling' us. Presumably there's a greater purpose yet to be revealed.

PermanentTemporary · 20/10/2024 10:11

God I wouldn't encourage getting involved with campaign groups. We had a march locally to do with a conspiracy theory. They just encourage each other.

I'd encourage engagement with something small scale and real - a gardening volunteer group, reading to young children, delivering for a food bank, helping out at Cubs. And I think just saying 'oh well I don't believe all that Dad. Anyway, the local have got a guest beer on, shall we go?'

LeopardPrintIsANeutraI · 20/10/2024 10:10

Oh I know a few of these.

They spent lockdown berating the rest of us for "living in fear" whilst simultaneously spending a lot of time trying to convince everyone that we are all going to die of the vaccine, microchips are secretly being inserted into our children, the elites are trying to depopulate the world, the great collapse is on the way, and martial law is coming to the streets any day now.

I know who I think is "living in fear" 😂

offyoujollywelltrot · 20/10/2024 10:06

I genuinely believe that COVID fried some people's brains, created more incredibly paranoid people, especially when people were already mentally vulnerable.

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