To say no to covid vaccine for DS?

Since when is pointing out that myocarditis is a side effect of the covid jab means you're a anti vaxxer?

Having only had mild symptoms so far is no guarantee they won't be more severe in future. I've had covid at least 3 times now and it's always been mild but I do know people who have had 2-3 mild bouts and then a severe one and/or long covid.

Yes, overall from the vaccine about 1/10,000. Somewhat higher in young men but not likely to be serious, reference above.

While I am sympathetic to your diagnosis and wish you well, it is extremely irresponsible of you to claim your advanced uterine cancer was due to the vaccine. There is absolutely no way it could have advanced that fast in a year.

You don't say where you haemorrhaged from but if it was uterine bleeding, that would have been associated with your cancer.

The risk of myocarditis is very, very, very low.

I have also been watching, @Annabellouise - hopefully someone will let us know if we have missed it

New Research. A study published on 26 Aug 2024 in J Amer Med Association, a top peer reviewed international journal, suggests that young men have ‘considerably fewer’ cardiac sequelae if they develop pericarditis or myocarditis after Covid vaccine than after a Covid infection.

In other words, Covid itself also predisposes young men to these conditions and the results are (much) more likely to be serious. Furthermore it is well documented that Covid predisposes the young to heart attacks and strokes, with rates spiking by about 30% after infection, as well as less serious cardiac disease The vaccine is not known to do this.

Has the op of this post (working in Pharma) actually replied? I’m scrolling but can’t find and I’d be interested know what information they have. Thank you.

I don't think I do, either. I last had flu in late 2009, and the previous time was early in 1993, so twice in over 30 years. People forget that it can be fatal, and a colleague was hospitalised with it in 2009.

I had Covid, albeit very mildly, just when the first lockdown was announced. I've never had it a second time, but have been vaccinated every year since 2001. My SIL and BIL, who don't "believe in" vaccinations, have had it several times. BIL was dreadfully ill with Covid in the autumn, and they were talking about admitting him to hospital, but he started to improve.

I see the anti vaxxers are here. Thankfully MNHQ has deleted some of their propaganda.

You say he took unwell within a few weeks due to the flu vaccine. Maybe it prevented getting flu and he just had a regular barn door cold virus. If my child had asthma they’d be having the flu and Covid vaccine no questions asked. I’m a doctor but not giving you medical advice just saying what I’d do if it was my child.

Research the risks (myocarditis for example). Then don't allow it.

I'm friend with two guys and one lady whose teenage children died due to the covud vaccine. Ernest ramirez jr and Sean Hartman are two teenagers who died shortly after.

Also I know an 11 year old boy who developed issues with occult tethered cord after pfizer. He's now in a wheelchair.

I myself am vaccine injured. Look at the recent daily mail articles on covid vaccine injuries and read the comments. That will tell you all you need to know.

Also look at the covid vaccine side effect articles on pubmed/ncbi...a catalogue of global medical papers.

My friend is a very sensible paediatric nurse with a child. She won’t allow her child to have the nasal flu spray because of what she has seen while nursing

Well go on then, care to share what she's seen? If she's ever worked in A&E, MAU or an inpatient ward she would have sure seen children with flu itself, although there's plenty of credible research and data on that so someone's anecdotes need not be taken as gospel. Anaphylaxis can happen to those children who have a previous unnoticed allergy, but this would be dealt with immediately by whoever is administering the spray- so be interested in what she refers to and with what frequency, ideally with some sort of credible data? Surely you know this is you're happy to post with such confidence on a thread from a parent asking for advice?

Asking questions and looking further into things and doing research via the proper channels does not mzke a person a conspiracy theorist my word mn getting better taking a vaccine because the govt the tv and social media tells you to or in some cases bribes you to makes you a sheep with no independent thought

I agree, plenty of people don't do this though, they just believe without question stuff they hear that suits their preferred narrative.

What is your definition of ‘research via the proper channels’?

And will it be mild next time?

Asking questions and looking further into things and doing research via the proper channels does not mzke a person a conspiracy theorist my word mn getting better taking a vaccine because the govt the tv and social media tells you to or in some cases bribes you to makes you a sheep with no independent thought

I agree. I’m not anti vax, my children and I have had all of ours, except my children don’t have the covid or flu jab because I don’t think they are at a risk of either My friend is a very sensible paediatric nurse with a child. She won’t allow her child to have the nasal flu spray because of what she has seen while nursing

I know 2 youngsters with Long COVID, one contracted before vaccines were on the scene so can’t be linked to that. Their lives have been blighted, unable to go to school, live a normal life, it is horrendous.

I have attached the definition from the Green book on clinical at risk groups to help you make your decision. (Systemic steroids are oral tablets or IV not inhaled steroids.)