To say no to covid vaccine for DS?

I think the issue is that some people are linking to dubious sources of information.

If people don't want the vaccine, fine. But spreading disinformation to discourage others is not fine.

Funnily enough, I am watching an old episode of ER. One of the plotlines is that a patient believes AIDS is a "scam". Familiar, huh?

Again, that's not the point

Rubbish

Yes. But that's not my point. What I'm saying is that because it takes so long, and testing continues whilst the licence is being applied for, by the time a vaccine hits the public we usually have 5-10 years of data about it.

Did you read the book by the developers of the vaccine? Explaining how it was able to be brought out so quickly

And I got psoriatic arthritis from a very mild dose of covid. Auto immune diseases are frequently triggered by a virus. A vaccine can also trigger them.

But tonsillitis is an infection, surely?

So a coincidence

Have you actually spoken to a doctor? Or his asthma nurse?

@itsgettingweird

if you want it, try booking directly through the NHS Covid injection scheme. Locally the surgeries have been refusing it to people who are actually eligible, most have then just booked it through the NHS scheme. No idea why the surgeries have been doing this 🙄🙄

Why does this always have to be about vaxxer vs anti vaxxers? Its really not……its about doing own individual research and making an informed decision which suits your family and their health needs. Risk vs benefit is key……stop labelling everyone who isn’t taking a particular vaccine as anti vaxxer…..their body, their choice and the same goes if you choose to take it.
Everyone is allowed an opinion and a choice based on that opinion, furthermore people should feel able to voice those opinions without being judged- are we really so naive to say that we’re worried about influence from either side, it’s insulting frankly that mumsnet would remove posts worried about the consequences- whatever happened to critical thinking and knowing or hoping that everyone has this ability? 🙄

Read about how long it takes to develop a vaccine, the licensing process (for others, not this one) and how much data is usually available before a vaccine is released to the general population

Do you know why it normally takes so long for new medicines to be released to the general population @Thisismetooaswell ?

I did a lot of reading before making my decision. Every instinct in me was crying out not to have it. Stupidly I went against my gut feel and had the AZ vaccine and developed Rheumatoid Arthritis. None of my children have had this vaccine, nor will they, including my youngest who has a plethora of health issues. Read about how long it takes to develop a vaccine, the licensing process (for others, not this one) and how much data is usually available before a vaccine is released to the general population. We still don't have long term data as this vaccine was only released 4 years ago. What we do have is much more short term data than we usually would due to the rollout to just about everyone. It's not worth the risk for me

@Hereforaglance

Give us all a good laugh.

the sheep would like to know what you think 'the scam'was??

Can you provide us with some links to the sources you used?

Also, eyes and ears is simply anecdotal. That is not research.

Oh the irony of this post!

Obviously you don't need to start a new career as a researcher to do your own research. However, in order to do any form of valid research you need to be able to interpret the findings in scientific papers. You need to understand how to discern whether the research was rigorously designed. You also need to be able to judge the quality of the outlet the research is published in.

If you don't have the skill set to to that, you don't have the skill set to do your own research.

As in big.....

Vaccines are like insurance. You don't necessarily expect the worst will happen, but you take out the insurance when you don't think you can deal with the worst without any help.

You might not take out contents insurance if you could afford to replace all your contents and you'd quite like an excuse to buy new furniture and clothes. You'd take it out if you would be screwed if you had to replace it all because you're living paycheque to paycheque.

I've just had my flu vaccine. I was a bit unwell for a few days. That was the price of my insurance. I've had the flu before, and I couldn't physically move. I hallucinated. Because I don't want that scenario to happen again, I take the insurance (the vaccine). I may not avoid it completely, but I won't have as bad a time if I didn't take the insurance.

If I'd been offered a Covid vaccine as well, I'd have taken it too. Why? Because I do know people who have had mild Covid (and repeatedly). I also know people who have died from Covid, and people who wish they'd died from Covid and are a suicide risk. That's something I'm prepared to insure against - where I think the worst-case scenario is bad enough for me to justify the cost (feeling mildly sick for a few days).

Children don't get offered the Covid vaccine easily, so some doctor somewhere has decided your child is higher risk for things going south if they get a nasty strain. There are different strains - just because your child has had a different one before and it hasn't been terrible doesn't mean he would have a mild reaction next time.

I'd get him the jab without hesitation.

Get it - there's a reason he's been offered it and the NHS wouldn't incur expense for nothing.

I am clinically vulnerable. Last year both DH (unvaccinated owing to age below threshold for seasonal boosters) and I had Covid. I was a lot less ill than him. It's worth it.

I think she probably can. Enough women have had the Covid jabs now for a link to have been noticed - an upsurge in unterine cancer in women who have had the vaccine would have been noticed by now if there had been.

I’m sympathetic but it’s like saying I had a Covid vaccine and then a week later I fell and broke my arm. Very bad luck. No evidence to suggest a link.

Do you really think that uterine cancer could have gone from zero to advanced in a year?

The covid vaccine is no different to other vaccines in terms of side effects. The reason we are hearing so much about them is the sheer scale of the vaccine rollout.

The trouble is anti-vaxxers fail to add that a)it is a very, very, very rare side effect and b) most people fully recover with treatment.

But that is not as fear-inducing, is it?

Forgot to quote poster I was replying to!

The vast majority of the general public are not qualified to do their own research. They don't have sufficient knowledge of statistics to interpret most research papers. Equally, they don't have the knowledge to distinguish between a good academic source and a disreputable one.

That said, government policy on vaccination is based on populations, not individuals. Some people will react badly to any medication. They are in the minority but obviously not great if you are one of that minority.