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To say no to covid vaccine for DS?

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Clarabell77 · 20/10/2024 08:55

My DS10 has asthma - mild albeit a chest infection 14 months ago ended up in an overnight in hospital on a nebuliser/steroid and he’s had to have a steroid once during that time for another infection.

He’s been identified as being at risk and offered a Covid vaccine. I’m not sure whether to allow him to have it as I’m sure he’s had Covid quite a few times when we’ve all tested positive at home - can’t test him as he won’t let me near him with a swab. He’s had mild symptoms, even when ours weren’t.

He’s had the flu vaccine twice and taken unwell within weeks on both occasions so I’ve opted out of that one this year. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Covid one? Ideally someone who has actual knowledge, not from YouTube, I’m not a covid denier or anti vaxxer.

AIBU to not get him the vaccine?

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Jaehee · 20/10/2024 21:02

Genevieva · 20/10/2024 20:51

They really aren’t. Asthma is often triggered by allergies, not by respiratory infections. Asthma management is far more important.

I am pro childhood vaccines to avoid deadly diseases, but flu jabs are a bit of a shot in the dark. They are usually based on whatever has been circulating in Australia during their winter, which may or may not be helpful here six months later.

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People with asthma are have an increased risk of contracting respiratory infections, as well as an increased risk of experiencing complications of respiratory infections.

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Clarabell77 · 20/10/2024 20:56

Genevieva · 20/10/2024 20:51

They really aren’t. Asthma is often triggered by allergies, not by respiratory infections. Asthma management is far more important.

I am pro childhood vaccines to avoid deadly diseases, but flu jabs are a bit of a shot in the dark. They are usually based on whatever has been circulating in Australia during their winter, which may or may not be helpful here six months later.

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My son’s asthma has always been triggered by respiratory infections.

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Genevieva · 20/10/2024 20:51

Jaehee · 20/10/2024 20:45

Of course they're related!

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They really aren’t. Asthma is often triggered by allergies, not by respiratory infections. Asthma management is far more important.

I am pro childhood vaccines to avoid deadly diseases, but flu jabs are a bit of a shot in the dark. They are usually based on whatever has been circulating in Australia during their winter, which may or may not be helpful here six months later.

Jaehee · 20/10/2024 20:45

Genevieva · 20/10/2024 20:42

Asthma and respiratory infections are entirely unrelated. I don’t give my kids the flu because they are not immunocompromised. They eat healthily, do lots of exercise and get a lot of fresh air. Plus they are older now, so it’s their choice. Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc supplements help the immune system. They rarely get even a sniffle and have never had a bad bout of flu.

Of course they're related!

Genevieva · 20/10/2024 20:42

Asthma and respiratory infections are entirely unrelated. I don’t give my kids the flu because they are not immunocompromised. They eat healthily, do lots of exercise and get a lot of fresh air. Plus they are older now, so it’s their choice. Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc supplements help the immune system. They rarely get even a sniffle and have never had a bad bout of flu.

BloodyAdultDC · 20/10/2024 20:40

My friend's previously very fit and healthy 6foot5 husband died of COVID.

Get your asthmatic child vaccinated.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/10/2024 20:38

Berlinlover · 20/10/2024 20:21

I got the Covid vaccine January, 2022 and was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer (leiomyosarcoma) in September, 2023. The one and only time I bled (haemorrhaged) was a few days after the Covid vaccine, I wasn’t having periods as I was on the mini pill. I think it’s as clear as day the vaccine caused my cancer.

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You absolutely have my sympathy but correlation does not equal causation.

Statistics show us that Shark attacks increase with increased ice-cream consumption. That's because shark attacks increase in the summer as more people go swimming and the consumption of ice-cream increases in the summer.

The chances of you going from zero in terms of your cancer to sufficiently advanced to be haemorrhaging within a few days is vanishingly unlikely.

Toomanywars · 20/10/2024 20:37

Hereforaglance · 20/10/2024 12:25

No i did independent research that did not involve social media on.top.of that i used my eyes and ears and came to an. Independent decision

😂 oh dear.

FjordPrefect · 20/10/2024 20:33

Berlinlover · 20/10/2024 20:21

I got the Covid vaccine January, 2022 and was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer (leiomyosarcoma) in September, 2023. The one and only time I bled (haemorrhaged) was a few days after the Covid vaccine, I wasn’t having periods as I was on the mini pill. I think it’s as clear as day the vaccine caused my cancer.

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I can see the link between the bleed and the vaccine, it's a known side effect, but why would you think a cancer diagnosis 20 months later has any link let alone a clear as day one?

Gimmeabreak2025 · 20/10/2024 20:26

PandoraSox · 20/10/2024 11:13

How old is your relative, out of interest?

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Mid 50’s

Berlinlover · 20/10/2024 20:21

twomanyfrogsinabox · 20/10/2024 09:22

If you had advanced uterine cancer in 2023, it was almost certainly already present when you had the covid jab in 2022 haemorrhaging is a symptom of uterine cancer. Just one of those unfortunate things in life nothing to do with the jab, good luck with the treatment.

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I got the Covid vaccine January, 2022 and was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer (leiomyosarcoma) in September, 2023. The one and only time I bled (haemorrhaged) was a few days after the Covid vaccine, I wasn’t having periods as I was on the mini pill. I think it’s as clear as day the vaccine caused my cancer.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/10/2024 19:41

loulouljh · 20/10/2024 18:48

I suspect all the people who are being accused of being anti-vax took ALL vaccines up until the covid vaccination. I know I did. In fact I don't know any people who didn't. I am certainly no anti-vaxxer. BUT I am now looking at all vaccines differently and I suspect many people are.

I didn't take all vaccinations pre-covid. I did a risk assessment and decided whether the risks outweighed the benefits. For example, I never got the flu vaccine. I decided the risks associated with the Swine Flu vaccine outweighed the benefits.

I did the same for covid and got all the covid ones. I had not intended getting a booster this year as I do not fall into any of the recommended groups.

That is, until I realised that what I thought was long covid was in fact an autoimmune disease triggered by a very mild dose of covid. I now, unfortunately, fall within the target groups.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/10/2024 19:36

Berlinlover · 20/10/2024 18:49

Absolutely.

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What are you basing that on? Have you any medical evidence to support that?

Berlinlover · 20/10/2024 18:49

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 20/10/2024 10:20

you think the vaccine caused cancer?

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Absolutely.

loulouljh · 20/10/2024 18:48

I suspect all the people who are being accused of being anti-vax took ALL vaccines up until the covid vaccination. I know I did. In fact I don't know any people who didn't. I am certainly no anti-vaxxer. BUT I am now looking at all vaccines differently and I suspect many people are.

RedHelenB · 20/10/2024 18:39

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 20/10/2024 09:01

Don't you just long for the days before vaccines were invented? I mean, no dilemma to be had. What a shame clever people started inventing things to save lives/minimise the effects of a disease

This. Vaccines work, why wouldn't you get one for an asthmatic child.

Clocloxx · 20/10/2024 18:17

PandoraSox · 20/10/2024 14:27

I am sorry your friend died, but it was never proved whether or not the vaccine killed him if I recall correctly.

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Of course it was the vaccine.
https://x.com/Jklunden/status/1846130089756385788

But I'm sure people here on mumsnet will call her a antivaxxer...

x.com

https://x.com/Jklunden/status/1846130089756385788

Choosenandenough · 20/10/2024 18:15

Jaehee · 20/10/2024 18:04

Hugs from another stranger @Choosenandenough Flowers

Thank you so, so much. X

Jaehee · 20/10/2024 18:13

sleepwouldbenice · 20/10/2024 18:09

Yep

Anti vaxer friend who got covid nearly died with this,/of this/whatever

Although I would never wish I'll-health on anyone the irony was stark

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How do they feel about vaccination now?

sleepwouldbenice · 20/10/2024 18:09

crumblingschools · 20/10/2024 11:24

You can get myocarditis from COVID too

Yep

Anti vaxer friend who got covid nearly died with this,/of this/whatever

Although I would never wish I'll-health on anyone the irony was stark

Jaehee · 20/10/2024 18:04

Hugs from another stranger @Choosenandenough Flowers

Choosenandenough · 20/10/2024 17:53

OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/10/2024 17:35

I'm sorry to hear that. AIBU is not a great spot if you're feeling down. Maybe a bit of self care, even if just a coffee and a bit of cake and watching some crap TV, would help take a bit of the edge off it? I hope you don't think I'm trying to minimise what you're going through by suggesting that 💐

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Oh no not at at! God that’s so kind and you’re absolutely right it’s not the best place to be - I’m going to do exactly what you suggested. Thank you, I really mean that, for being so nice, ffs… it’s made me cry and I really have being having the most horrible time and I don’t even know you and you’ve just been so lovely and so kind and I’m actually not joking… I don’t think I’ll ever forget you for being so kind. I’ve had the most horrible weekend, not spoken to a soul and I’m going to do exactly what you’ve suggested. Please know how much that meant to me, thank you so very much. Jeez… Mumsnet eh. Has the best of people at the most surprising times. Thank you 💖 crap TV going on now. Thank you.

buffyfaithspike · 20/10/2024 17:47

@MonkeyToHeaven exactly! (I've had 8 vaccines and no issues)

MonkeyToHeaven · 20/10/2024 17:42

buffyfaithspike · 20/10/2024 17:30

I can see how people think it's related
Last night I started with what I think is flu, and this morning I was meant to be going for my flu and Covid vaccine
If the illness had started just 24hrs later it would have been straight after my vaccines
But it's definitely not related as it started before and I've cancelled them

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That's how dangerous they are. Just booking them gives you side effects, you've proved it. Given there have been more than 11.8 billion doses administered there must be thousands of cases just like yours.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/10/2024 17:35

Choosenandenough · 20/10/2024 17:27

Thanks, I really appreciate that. I’m going through a horrible breakup and other crap and I just want to cry just now to be honest and I genuinely appreciate that, thanks for being kind there. I just want to go under a duvet and cry my eyes out lol thanks again and I agree with what you said in that post. X

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I'm sorry to hear that. AIBU is not a great spot if you're feeling down. Maybe a bit of self care, even if just a coffee and a bit of cake and watching some crap TV, would help take a bit of the edge off it? I hope you don't think I'm trying to minimise what you're going through by suggesting that 💐