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To not invite sister to social gathering

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NoSourDough · 19/10/2024 22:41

I’m a group leader in a hobby that I created in our local village after moving here around 2 years ago. Group is going very well and we are having our first social gathering outside of the weekly “practice” this Xmas.

My mother and sister relocated to my area this year (we all relocated around 2 hours from original home town).

My mother joined my group and took up the hobby as a bid to learn a new skill and make new friends, was out of her comfort zone but she did it and she enjoys it.

My sister was invited (on a few occasions) to join the group but she suffers with low confidence and declined the invitation, even though the joining of this all female group would allow her to make new local friends in the community. She has been living here now for 6 months and hasn’t made a friend yet.

Back to our Xmas plans, my mother has taken it upon herself to invite my sister to the groups social event. I’m not happy about this. My sister is not part of the hobby group. It’s a Xmas social for the group - not outsiders to be added on. As group leader, she should have asked me first.

AIBU - should I chill out and allow my sister to come along and meet new people or keep it in the group, as I’m not sure it would be fair on the others and I would not be happy if they invited a non-member to the Xmas social.

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autienotnaughty · 20/10/2024 05:09

I'd say group members only otherwise it's unfair on the others.

I'd say to your mum she either-

Joins the group
Doesn't come
Your mum asks rest of group if she can attend

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 20/10/2024 04:21

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 23:08

If it's group members only then it's members only and she can't come. I get social anxiety and I would hate it if it was going to a group thing where I thought I would feel safe only for a total random to be there, plus if you let her go then you should let everyone bring an extra person and then it's really not a group thing at all.

Your mum is out of order and shouldn't have invited someone from outside the group.

I 100% agree with this I would hate other randoms being there…I have a friend who does this, invites me over/ out and then next thing I know there are others there and it changes the dynamic of the whole catch up and I’d rather be home

yes your sister may lack confidence but others in the group may as well and may not want to do small talk with an unknown person

SnobblyBobbly · 20/10/2024 03:58

Part of my job is running hobby groups to help people socially and this just this is a great opportunity for your sister to see what it's like in a more relaxed way and perhaps might allay some of her fears around joining.

I'd get your point moreso if this was next year, and she was just turning up for the socials repeatedly but 6 months in a new area isn't that long.

EmberAsh · 20/10/2024 03:56

saraclara · 20/10/2024 00:11

Organise and entire extra event, just to pacify her mum and sister? You have to be joking. These things are HARD WORK.

How is it hard work to say we are all meeting for a drink at X on X date, join if you want?
You send a group message and mention it at the meeting and that's the end of it isn't it.

Fraaahnces · 20/10/2024 03:51

No group members only. Not group members and selected family members.

JanglingJack · 20/10/2024 03:43

I want to know what the hobby is.

Or would it be too outing like all other hobbies?!

MargaretThursday · 20/10/2024 03:30

I agree with the later replies. Especially as group leader, you can't look like you're taking advantage and bringing extras if others aren't meant to.

Tell her she needs to come to a session first.

If she's shy though, I'd have thought it would be far worse because normally she can put her head down and get on with the hobby. For this she'll need to make small talk with strangers who know each other- unless she plans on hiding in the corner only talking to op and mum, which would be awkward.

WiddlinDiddlin · 20/10/2024 03:21

Mmm, no, if I were a member and had understood the event to be members only then I'd be pissed if the organisers sister attended as a non-member.

Tell her either she joins in a few meetings and is then a member and can come or she can't come. Or rather, tell Mother to tell her this, since she was the one who wrongly invited her!

It would be different if this were a do in a venue you're organising by yourself, you could have her there under the guise of helping perhaps, or helping your Mum or something, but as its a meal out thats really not going to work.

Maria1979 · 20/10/2024 01:51

How about telling mum and sister that it's for group members only but if she joins the group now ofcourse she can come. Otherwise not in order to be fair to other members. You have to lead with good example, surely your family can understand that.

Orangeandgold · 20/10/2024 00:56

I think it’s fine for your sister to come. As long as she is aware that you would be in “work mode” and maybe you can get her to help out?

I’ve seen many volunteer groups or activities where the leader might invite their sister along - who usually acts as support and helps out.

If she doesn’t want to help out, then she can just join.

Also I would say the difference would be what type of social gathering - if it’s a sit down meal or something quite intimate I would be a little annoyed - but if it’s pretty open then that should be fine.

Tomorrowisyesterday · 20/10/2024 00:35

Surely she needs to attend a couple of times before Christmas, otherwise it's just weird to go to the social. I would not like to be sitting next to someone at the Christmas social who didn't even go to the group!

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/10/2024 00:32

Your mother is out of order. If it's a members-only social, it's a members-only social - not members plus an extra one of her daughters. If nobody else gets a guest then being the organiser's mum doesn't give her special privileges.

If everyone could bring a guest that would be different, and.could be a great way to encourage your sister to join the club.

Pushmepullu · 20/10/2024 00:21

I belong to a hobby group that has a Christmas social. I would find it quite odd that someone who doesn’t do the hobby came to our social, whether it’s a partner or a sister of the instructor. Maybe your mum didn’t realise that plus ones weren’t invited?

saraclara · 20/10/2024 00:11

EmberAsh · 20/10/2024 00:07

Could you organise a less formal social such as drinks where all members are invited to bring guests (you could even end up getting new members join) and your sister is welcome to that. Then explain she can't come to the sit down dinner as it's members only.

Organise and entire extra event, just to pacify her mum and sister? You have to be joking. These things are HARD WORK.

Screamingabdabz · 20/10/2024 00:11

It’s the hobby group’s Christmas social. Not a drop in for randoms. She’s your sister, but to everyone apart from your mum she’s a random and it will change the dynamic. Your mum had no business inviting her. YANBU.

EmberAsh · 20/10/2024 00:07

Could you organise a less formal social such as drinks where all members are invited to bring guests (you could even end up getting new members join) and your sister is welcome to that. Then explain she can't come to the sit down dinner as it's members only.

TodayandThursday · 20/10/2024 00:07

I'm obviously out on my own here but this would really piss me off I was a member of the social club!!

So the group's leader can bring her sister but no one else can?

You can't have one rule for one and one for another.

It's either a social club meal for member's only or guests can be invited too.

I think you're right OP. But looks like most of mumsnet disagrees! ;)

saraclara · 20/10/2024 00:01

OP, I'd simply tell your mother that it's a members only social and that everyone has been told that there can be no plus ones. And that if your sister turns up, it will look horrendously unfair.

Then it's down to her to tell the sister.

saraclara · 20/10/2024 00:00

Pandasnacks · 19/10/2024 23:49

So if someone wants to invite a boyfriend and the restaurant has room say yes, if no say you are sorry but the restaurant is now full but he's welcome next time. It's simple

That really not how these things work. People will have been told that it's members only and there are no plus-ones. Then the leader of the group's non-member sister turns up, when no-one else has been able to invite someone?

I'm amazed at the majority people responses being that OP is being unfair. If she has a plus one (and that's how it will appear even if it's their mother who's invited her) OP's name will be mud among her members.

Pandasnacks · 19/10/2024 23:49

NoSourDough · 19/10/2024 23:11

It’s for group members only. For context, it’s a meal so can’t have too many as there is already quite a few of us. This is the situation I’m in now, my mum has asked her and I’ve said it’s group members only.

So if someone wants to invite a boyfriend and the restaurant has room say yes, if no say you are sorry but the restaurant is now full but he's welcome next time. It's simple

ThinWomansBrain · 19/10/2024 23:44

If she's shy, I'd imagine that a sit down meal where everyone else knows each other and has a common interest that she doesn't share is probably her idea of hell.

mdinbc · 19/10/2024 23:41

Sometimes the best way to woo new members into a group is at a social event.
Of course your sister should feel welcome, but I agree your mother should have checked with you first as the organizer.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 19/10/2024 23:27

But you could get new members join before Christmas anyway so it could busier?

Is she likely to feel more confident in joining the group if she meets them socially first so it's more like her first session really?

Inviting your sister to an all female group is not like bringing a boyfriend because then it's not all female, someone bringing a sister or other female friend or relative would be the same. And, again, if it was a way for them to preliminary meet the group then it's not really that weird.

And you say it's a hobby group, not like something with paid membership.

ShowerOfShites · 19/10/2024 23:15

NoSourDough · 19/10/2024 23:11

It’s for group members only. For context, it’s a meal so can’t have too many as there is already quite a few of us. This is the situation I’m in now, my mum has asked her and I’ve said it’s group members only.

But if she had joined the group the restaurant could've fitted her in?

That makes no sense.

Maybe tell her she can come if there's room then?

NoSourDough · 19/10/2024 23:11

It’s for group members only. For context, it’s a meal so can’t have too many as there is already quite a few of us. This is the situation I’m in now, my mum has asked her and I’ve said it’s group members only.

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