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To not want to visit a hospital ward filled with Covid?

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Donm999 · 19/10/2024 21:37

So elderly DM went into hospital last weekend. She’s in general poor health, doesn’t look after herself at all, but nothing to the point of life threatening (although no doubt one day it will be!).

I work full time, have a small child and live about a 40 minute drive away. Have phoned every day, sorted stuff out for her on demand (spent an hour on the phone last night trying to sort out hospital tv!) and went down Sunday and Weds. When I arrive Weds I’m told she has contracted Covid and she and her whole ward have got it. I go in with mask on but only stay a few minutes.

Fast forward to today; just had upsetting phone call with DM who has said she has ‘nobody’, that other people are visiting and sitting with their relatives, that people (me) should be visiting regardless. When I challenged this I was told my attitude was ‘disgusting’. I eventually ended the call.

I am now sitting in between feeling guilty and upset and pissed off and, to be honest, unloved by her. These are not new feelings as it is a very difficult relationship; it is always all about her and I often only feature as her scapegoat/flunky. I will put serious money on the fact my brother will not have received this call.

To add context - despite how I feel I would have gone down today out of duty. However, I feel spending an hour on a ward filled with Covid - even with a mask on - presents a high risk of contracting it. I’ve had Covid about 4 times now, and each time it’s taken me a good month to get over (longer the first couple of times). My husband has been the same (who I would likely pass it onto). To me, the risk does not feel ok for me or my family for what would be a nicety for my mum. And if the situations were reversed I would absolutely be telling people not to visit me! However, my DM doesn’t seem to give 2 figs.

As the icing on the cake - it’s my birthday this week and were due to go away next weekend - all of which will be nicely cancelled by Covid if I get it!

YABU - Covid's not even a thing now, no one gets that ill so ‘man up’ and visit
YANBU - Stay away!!!! (And ignore your clearly narcissistic mother!).

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Maddy70 · 01/09/2025 11:21

She's feeling ill and lonely she's lashing out and isn't the best version of herself right now. She's probably scared she is going to die of it. It's not that long ago since deaths were reported daily people are still quite frightened. I was hospitalised with COVID and my family has to mask up and wear protective clothing. I was fortunate that they gave me a private room with a patio door leading outside so we could have the door wide open they did visit me and I was grateful tbh. Minimise your risks but you anbu to want to avoid being ill

dnadiscoveryquery · 01/09/2025 11:15

Caroparo52 · 01/09/2025 10:58

YANBU.
Protect yourself and your family. If you had Covid she wouldn't want you anywhere near her.
Can you facetime her? and it gets cut-off after 5 minutes due to poor connection.

This is a zombie thread from last October you’ve resurrected. Just FYI!

EvelynBeatrice · 01/09/2025 11:09

I think people with sub par mothers see things differently when they become mothers themselves. A good mum would prioritise you and your family at this stage. It would be different if she was dying!

For people pleasers and the just inherently kind person, it’s a hard lesson to learn as we age that we can’t always help everyone and sometimes even have to let others down. Sometimes you have a lot of duties and needs and have to prioritise.

Usually if you’re a parent your kids - of whatever age - come first and you need to look after yourself too. You can’t pour from an empty cup. At other times, wider family or even close friends take priority because of need or urgency. It’s sometimes a hard call to make. A friend recently had to choose which death bed to attend. Horrible but that’s life.

WaryHiker · 01/09/2025 11:09

Absolutely don't go, and absolutely don't feel bad about not going. I am fit and healthy, and I've had all my jabs and boosters, and this round of covid has absolutely flattened me. I've been seriously ill for a week and am only just starting to recover. I've had it a couple of times before and it was just like a very bad cold. This variant has been something else! Don't risk it.

EvelynBeatrice · 01/09/2025 11:02

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 09:08

It is

I disagree

ARichtGoodDram · 01/09/2025 11:02

I'm surprised they are allowing visitors.

MIL is in hospital atm and the ward is closed to visitors because of a Covid outbreak.

Caroparo52 · 01/09/2025 10:58

YANBU.
Protect yourself and your family. If you had Covid she wouldn't want you anywhere near her.
Can you facetime her? and it gets cut-off after 5 minutes due to poor connection.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/10/2024 09:29

If I had Covid I’d be telling people not to visit me.

YellowphantGrey · 23/10/2024 09:27

I did with my Mom. She waiting for a free bed in a nursing home and the ward had covid so I'd spend all day with her as she had onset dementia. I had to wear a mask, the nurses had them but none of the patients did.

I had the worst relationship with my Mom out of my siblings because she was a narcissist who constantly went on at me, everything was my fault and she was too old to look after my child when asked but looked after everyone else's younger than mine children.

She was so close to all my siblings, they got daughter birthday cards with lots of love inside, I got generic cards with next wishes.

Not one of them visited her in hospital. Because she was scared and confused, I couldn't let her be alone. Ironically my name and face was the only one she didn't forget towards the end and she would cry and get distressed if "strange" people were in her room.

Other than one of the carers who was a 6ft 3 black man and he used to sit with my Mom and sing to her because she thought he was her Dad 😭

Bubblemonkey · 23/10/2024 09:20

I don’t go out of my way to avoid it, but I wouldn’t be intentionally visiting a covid ward either.

WeWillGetThereInTheEnd · 23/10/2024 09:17

I have never knowingly had Covid, and we had to do a lot of testing; but I went to see MIL in an elderly care unit, even though the staff informed us, there was Covid; because I suspected she was dying. She did die. I didn’t get Covid.

Newterm · 21/10/2024 19:58

No way would I visit someone with covid unless they were seriously ill.

UncharteredWaters · 21/10/2024 19:53

I wouldn’t go into a ward filled with flu or norovirus or covid.
And I wish they’d close the ward to stop the spread as well!

Freeyourminds · 21/10/2024 19:49

Donm999 · 21/10/2024 19:08

Yep they are total germ factories! He’s not wrong.

However, my take on it is (short of home-hazmat suits!) that kiddy germs are an unavoidable risk. Going into a covid-rich ward is an avoidable risk. I’m trying to limit the avoidable risk elements this winter.

Yes.I think, just because you’ve had your vaccinations, doesn’t mean you’re not going to pick up goodness knows what, different strains of covid etc.Yesterday, a relative was going to visit my mum, said her partner had covid, had tested positive.She felt ok, no symptoms, as you mentioned this was avoidable, asked her if she could visit another time not worth chancing it.
Understand you can get it anywhere, however close proximity, knowing the person has been in regular contact with someone with covid, not worth the risk.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 21/10/2024 19:36

Donm999 · 21/10/2024 19:08

Yep they are total germ factories! He’s not wrong.

However, my take on it is (short of home-hazmat suits!) that kiddy germs are an unavoidable risk. Going into a covid-rich ward is an avoidable risk. I’m trying to limit the avoidable risk elements this winter.

I think you make a good point here.

We all know that you could encounter covid anywhere.

But that's not the same as knowingly entering a place where there are definitely people with covid.

It's an important difference

LlynTegid · 21/10/2024 19:14

I only wish everyone else thought the same and cared as much about not spreading illnesses as you do OP. Even if you had never had Covid or it had not affected you very much.

Donm999 · 21/10/2024 19:08

WeWillGetThereInTheEnd · 20/10/2024 23:12

Yep, a five year old. Who I would not dream of taking anywhere near the ward - despite her so far being no more than mildly ill with Covid on any of the occasions. I guess that’s how you should feel when it’s your child…lol.

I would have thought your five year old is going to be your biggest chance of getting Covid in the long run. DS has a 6 year old and 4 year old. They have brought home every virus going, since they started nursery!

We were taking DS and family out for a meal last weekend. I said I wouldn’t go, as I had a cold and didn’t want to pass it to them. DS told me if I felt too ill, that was up to me, but he doesn’t care about colds or Covid - because the children bring so much home from school!

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Yep they are total germ factories! He’s not wrong.

However, my take on it is (short of home-hazmat suits!) that kiddy germs are an unavoidable risk. Going into a covid-rich ward is an avoidable risk. I’m trying to limit the avoidable risk elements this winter.

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Donm999 · 21/10/2024 19:03

Isthiscorrect · 20/10/2024 09:17

That's not snippy. It's a statement of fact.

Lol just popped back on to find the it is/isn’t snippy debate.

Honestly, I wrote it with the intention of being factual, calmly assertive and no intention of snippiness. Looking back I can possibly see how someone could interpret it that way but glad some don’t think it was.

Out of interest - I expected no response from DM as that’s form but she messaged back saying ‘Ok point taken’ and then turned the message back around to how ill she’s been. We’ve spoken since and she’s been fairly pleasant so I think she knows she’d pushed me too far and will now be nice for a bit (usual form also!). So in the very least she didn’t find it snippy.

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WeWillGetThereInTheEnd · 20/10/2024 23:12

Yep, a five year old. Who I would not dream of taking anywhere near the ward - despite her so far being no more than mildly ill with Covid on any of the occasions. I guess that’s how you should feel when it’s your child…lol.

I would have thought your five year old is going to be your biggest chance of getting Covid in the long run. DS has a 6 year old and 4 year old. They have brought home every virus going, since they started nursery!

We were taking DS and family out for a meal last weekend. I said I wouldn’t go, as I had a cold and didn’t want to pass it to them. DS told me if I felt too ill, that was up to me, but he doesn’t care about colds or Covid - because the children bring so much home from school!

Sparsely · 20/10/2024 17:11

outsource the decision for a quiet life.

Ring 111 and ask them if it is advisable to visit given your history, they will say no and you can tell your Mum you would visit but you’ve been advised not to due to your high susceptibility to Covid. Or you could just tell her your doctor said that, if you are happy with stretching the truth,..

AgileGreenSeal · 20/10/2024 17:04

LoafofSellotape · 20/10/2024 06:14

With the jab and boosters.

Flip, they’re not much use are they?

Freeyourminds · 20/10/2024 09:25

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 09:08

It is

I guess if you want to perceive it that way and not really understanding the thread.

bitsalty · 20/10/2024 09:24

Blanketyre · 20/10/2024 08:57

OK. I wouldn't send a snippy text to someone elderly, alone and ill, but you must do whatever you feel is best.

It wasn't snippy.

Isthiscorrect · 20/10/2024 09:17

Blanketyre · 20/10/2024 08:57

OK. I wouldn't send a snippy text to someone elderly, alone and ill, but you must do whatever you feel is best.

That's not snippy. It's a statement of fact.

purplebeansprouts · 20/10/2024 09:08

Freeyourminds · 20/10/2024 09:07

It wasn’t a snippy message.

It is

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