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Marrying a woman behind my parents back

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YourLilacCat · 19/10/2024 15:16

My parents are religious and have made it clear they will never accept a gay marriage/gay partnership or any type of same sex relationship, so would I be unreasonable to get married to my female partner regardless and just not tell them? I live in their home.

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marylou25 · 19/10/2024 17:35

YourLilacCat · 19/10/2024 16:16

Have you heard of different cultures? Not everyone is from a British culture.

Regardless of culture differences, if you marry under UK laws then it's their laws that will determine an asset split in a divorce and not your cultural norms. Therefore buying a house of 'your own' while getting married (assuming its a standard UK marriage legally) is neither here nor there as it doesn't guarantee you get to keep it all on your own.

AliasGrace47 · 19/10/2024 17:35

I think some posters are being too harsh saying your parents have to know if this could torpedo your relationship w them. But other pps are right that it depends on your gf's attitude to this lying. Some people would be OK w this arrangement, but probs not if it involved you living there for much longer & having to keep her hidden.

TheSilentSister · 19/10/2024 17:34

Get married in secret, buy your own house, introduce her as a lodger. Job done.
If you think you can pull that off, then why not go for it. You'd have to keep up the pretence with separate bedrooms (for show) and no lovey dovey pictures up when either family visit etc. As you are both in the same boat, it should be fine.
For what it's worth, a relative of mine did this - thing is, we all knew he was gay and went along with it. His choice not to disclose etc. There were no religious/cultural reasons. They got married in secret also. It's sad because he cut himself off from his family, never giving anyone a chance to say it's ok. There's more to the story but you get the gist.

AliasGrace47 · 19/10/2024 17:30

Op, it's lovely to hear you have found love. Bit you are v young. I'm bi & from what I hear some f/f relationships can founder due to 'U-hauling' (moving in really quickly) and the related 'urge to merge', the intense bonding which being same sex can facilitate, & which can make sorting out differences tricky. These problems can obvs be dealt w, & lots of f/f couples don't have them, but marrying after after not having lived together & being v young seems to fall into this. Your parents sound v misguided (understatement). Only you can judge when, and if, it is safe to come out to them. I think you should get your place, move in w your gf, see how your mesh. Then hopefully get married when you're sire it's the right choice, and decide what, if anything, to tell your parents. How is your relationship w them otherwise? You don't want to run to someone else to escape them, you want it to be a free, independent choice made from security not insecurity.

PurpleSky300 · 19/10/2024 17:28

OP, when you talk about retaining your values... it sounds like a form of 'damage limitation' to me. Bluntly, if your parents think same-sex unions are not acceptable, then appealing to other shared values or aspects of their faith won't override that. Even if you can say "Look, we've done it the right way, we got married, no pre-marital sex, no XYZ" ... it's not going to change anything. And if that's the likely scenario, then you might as well stop paying lip service to the rest of the cultural / religious expectations on you as well. Live your own life. Live together without being married, the sky will not fall in. Don't chase acceptance that will never come.

Sarah2891 · 19/10/2024 17:27

Do whatever keeps you safe. If getting married without telling them is the best option then do that. Good luck.

Delphiniumandlupins · 19/10/2024 17:26

I think your parents will initially react badly to the news that you are marrying a woman. I don't know whether they will accept you eventually.

Although it is not traditional in your culture, could you broach the subject of buying your own home, without having a husband lined up? What about the idea of buying a house jointly, with your girlfriend? If you gradually get your family used to you behaving less traditionally they may be less surprised when you come out as gay. At present you are deceiving them and this must be stressful so it will be better to be honest.

Blueblell · 19/10/2024 17:24

I would get all your ducks in a row financially so that if there is a fall out you have stability. However I would give your parents a chance to accept your marriage and attend your wedding. When it comes to it reality, regardless what they believe they may actually surprise you and want to be there. But I would give them some time to get used to the idea if this is something alien to their culture.

Bigcat25 · 19/10/2024 17:22

No rush to marry. You risk getting kicked out if they find out, so I wouldn't get married unless you can support yourself financially and provide yourself with housing.

What is the point of rushing into marriage?

DeireadhFomhair · 19/10/2024 17:19

Aside from lying to your parents, you're not being fair to your girlfriend / wife to keep her hidden. If you love someone enough to marry them, you should love them enough to announce it to the world.

5128gap · 19/10/2024 17:14

Your marriage will not protect you from having to navigate their homphobia, and a done deal will be no easier to accept than you telling them in advance. Harder probably as they will feel deceived, not believe it can be true and possibly imagine your partner has coerced you. In your shoes I'd tell them I was gay after first preparing a place to go, either with or without my partner. I'd let that sink in then reveal the wedding or not dependent on their reactions and how accepting they were.

SoupDragon · 19/10/2024 17:12

Buy your house.

Move out.

Tell your parents you are gay.

Get married when the dust has settled from that.

redboxer321 · 19/10/2024 17:09

I think you need to tell them.

I wouldn't. Not while she is living at home. Some parents can react very badly and the OP has got to think of her safety first and that of her partner's.

PennyApril54 · 19/10/2024 17:04

Hi OP I have been thinking of you and my advice to you above. I really want things to go well for you and for you not to have to give up one thing that is good in your life in order to have another good thing. I want you to have both!
With this in mind remember this will come as a shock to your family. It is a lot to take in , the news, the relationship and the wedding!
Maybe start with a letter explaining how you feel and the situation give them time to digest the news. emotions might be running high. I think finding all this out and the getting married young plans would be a lot to take in by anyone's standards even if it was a heterosexual relationship and you were from a different culture and older.
Any parents will be concerned and worried you are rushing in and vulnerable. Take your time. Maybe introduce the news a bit at a time. I'll be thinking of you!

ReshyAmina · 19/10/2024 17:04

I think you need to tell them. You say they might disown you once they find out, but they also might not. And if they accept it, then it would be more painful for them if you got married secretly.

And also I know you have it in your head that you need to leave your family home as a married woman, but unfortunately you’re in a difficult situation that you can’t do things the traditional way. Why focus on the idea of leaving your home as a married woman when your parents won’t know you got married and you’d be leaving under this storm of getting married to a woman behind their backs. Forget about the married woman bit and focus more on your parents accepting your relationship.

I can’t pretend to know what it’s like to be in your situation but I’m not from a British culture either and secretly dated a British man for several years before I told my family, and had the fear of they might disown me, force me to choose, etc. In the end, it all worked out really well but it started with my broaching the subject with my mum, and it slowly developing from there. So you never know how it will turn out, but getting secretly married will damage relations with your family.

Gummybear23 · 19/10/2024 17:03

Can't you just move out and live alone for a while.
That won't be as taboo but will give you time and space.

Trust me the more you are kept apart the more you will want to be together.
But in the cold light of day when u are juggling culture and stress of life it will be hard.
You may regret trying to bolt and get married so young.

Don't do it until you are settled and living by yourself for a while.

Get to know yourself.
Jeez you are only in your 20s and want to be married. It won't prove nowt.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2024 17:02

@YourLilacCat

I'm looking at this from the parental viewpoint.

If one of my sons had a special person (I couldn't care less if they were male or female) in their life that I didn't approve of for some reason, I'd feel very betrayed if they married behind my back and then my son continued to live in our house. He would have lied to me and taken advantage of me.

It would be 'honest' of him to move out then marry, even if they married the very day he moved out. I might still be upset, but I wouldn't feel betrayed or taken advantage of.

You say you want to 'honor' your culture by not living together before marriage. But isn't a part of your culture also not to lie and to respect your parents, even if you can't respect their belief regarding single sex relationships? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 17:00

• Just because we are a same sex couple doesn’t mean we have to forgo our culture or our values and beliefs

Given your explicitly state that the "beliefs" and "values" of your culture include homophobia, I an afraid that it does.

Gummybear23 · 19/10/2024 16:59

Relationships can be hard work without worry about culture religion and acceptance.

It will be hard because you will have added stress about managing your Relationship your culture and beliefs.

It may result in your Relationship ending.

So take that into account.

Love can go out the window when you have to juggle it with all the rest.

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 16:59

I’m aware of it. But I can live there regardless

Not necessarily. If the marriage collapses and you divorce you may be forced to sell it if you don't have the money to buy her out of her share of the total marital assets.

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 19/10/2024 16:58

AgileGreenSeal · 19/10/2024 16:55

I could be wrong but I don’t think OP’s parents are Christian.

ohk

SunriseMonsters · 19/10/2024 16:57

Have you heard of different cultures? Not everyone is from a British culture.

"Cultures" are completely irrelevant to this. We all have "cultures". If you are using that term as a euphemism for people coming from different countries then I have family and friends from all over the world. If you are trying to use "culture" as a euphemism for religion-based homophobia then as someone who is gay and wants to marry a woman you're going to need to break free from this and stop pretending it's acceptable, because as you know, it isn't.

The facts remain:

You are living with parents who have no idea you are gay because you like that it gives you a more comfortable lifestyle.

You claim you want to marry a woman but won't even admit to your family she exists so clearly you are not mature enough to enter into a marriage.

You say you have sufficient money to leave and be honest bit you choose to continue to lie to your parents and behave in this dysfunctional way to your supposed-future wife.

You don't appear to have ever lived independently.

You've made comments about marriage that show you have no understanding of what it is, as a legal contract, and what that entails in terms of assets.

You've made immature assertions about you being unable to behave in an honest manner and treat both your family and partner with respect by being honest because of some clinging to a pointless belief that you must marry someone you've never spent a significant amount of time with in normal day to day living situations, on the basis that your "culture" says you should, even though this would obviously be very unwise and is pointless to do so on that basis when marrying/ living with that person is a far bigger breach of your "cultural" issues anyway because the homophobic family will take far greater exception to her being female than to whether you cohabited before marriage, as you know. And you don't even have to cohabit, you could just move out (which you can afford) and try living as an independent adult and tell your parents the truth and live with some integrity, then date your girlfriend openly and stop living a double life.

There are no "cultural" reasons to justify this. It is the antithesis of what "culture" means.

Hunnymonster1 · 19/10/2024 16:56

Azerothi · 19/10/2024 16:53

This. Is this a British legal marriage or some other made up one that is not legal in the UK? It matters.

For what its worth I think you should get married and be upfront. The UK is very accepting of the LGBT+ community thankfully and mostly bigotry is not welcome here.

There are loads of communities i live in dewsbury big Muslim community and let me tell you I highly doubt many would be so cool about lgbt child so yes Britain is but there are pockets where no not good at all

WiddlinDiddlin · 19/10/2024 16:55

I don't think anyone is saying you should move into her flat and then get married.

We;re saying to get your own place, move there. Then decide what to do. That way if anything goes wrong, you have your own place, that pre-dates any marriage. That gives you security.

AgileGreenSeal · 19/10/2024 16:55

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 19/10/2024 16:53

tbh you know the answer: this has to be only your decision not strangers on the internet. I am religious also and what would I do if you were my daughter?!!!! _ absolutely nothing. What do you expect me or would expect me doing is the question to start with.

so ok, according to the Bible and their religious views what you are going to do is not acceptable to them; second you are going to lie to them by omitting your life plans which is a second non acceptable ( both have biblical names)

what we are supposed to advise you?

my only word is: go and do as you wish or are you have secret religious thoughts also and need that being answered? You can pm if you want. I don't do gay conversion, no worries, only give a listening ear

I could be wrong but I don’t think OP’s parents are Christian.

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