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To wonder why more men don’t get the snip?

421 replies

Rainallnight · 19/10/2024 12:01

When their family is complete.

Sparked by two (separate) people I know who recently got pregnant with or gave birth to their fourth child. Both shared freely that it was an accident - contraception failure. Life with 3 DC is full on and a bit of a struggle already in both cases. Neither felt abortion was an option for them.

When you’re 3 DC in and your family is complete, why on Earth are the men not going for the snip to bring an end to it all? And stop birth control being all on the woman?

OP posts:
orangeroll · 19/10/2024 19:38

You don’t believe what about it?

I don't believe your husband is a decent man, and I don't believe you really think his decision is acceptable either, deep down at least, I think it's denial.

TheGoogleMum · 19/10/2024 19:37

Me and DH are done having children so he did get the snip. One of our mates doesn't have kids and knows he never wants any but won't entertain getting the snip. He jokes DH has no balls!

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:35

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:33

In your case, if you wanted to know when you ovulated, you could have used ovulation strips (they are very cheap), you could have taken your temperature as well...

If you are bleeding or going through a miscarriage your body might ovulate at odd times. There are ways to track your ovulation patterns no matter your circumstances. If you want to avoid getting pregnant, there are plenty of methods these days. Not getting pregnant is one of the easiest things to do these days.

I was actually part of a well known brand ovulation trail taking tests and collection urine samples to be sent off to their lab. Nothing said I was ovulating.

Not that I was unhappy about being pregnant clearly.

edit. Urine tests got sent off on week batch’s and I didn’t get those results till after but the actual test strips indicated zero ovulation.

Didimum · 19/10/2024 19:35

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:22

It's not risky.

She clearly did it wrong. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to keep track of your cycle.

It is risky. The rhythm method has a 25% failure rate, making it one of the least effect contraceptive methods. Considering a woman has a maximum chance of 30% in getting pregnant on any given cycle, that’s essentially completely non-effective, especially when applied en mass in the real world.

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:33

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:22

I got pregnant during a miscarriage during the very low bleeding stage. Not sure I was meant to know I was ovulating…

In your case, if you wanted to know when you ovulated, you could have used ovulation strips (they are very cheap), you could have taken your temperature as well...

If you are bleeding or going through a miscarriage your body might ovulate at odd times. There are ways to track your ovulation patterns no matter your circumstances. If you want to avoid getting pregnant, there are plenty of methods these days. Not getting pregnant is one of the easiest things to do these days.

TickingAlongNicely · 19/10/2024 19:32

Since 2020...
Deaths during childbirth in UK)... 13.56 per 100,000 births
Deaths due to contraceptive pill... 3-10 per million
Deaths due to vasectomy... 0.

Themaghag · 19/10/2024 19:30

Gogogo12345 · 19/10/2024 13:51

Could you not have been sterilsed yourself?

Yes of course because it's always the responsibility of the woman to fuck her body up so that the man can enjoy hassle free sex isn't it? It amazes me that all women don't insist that their partners have a vasectomy - no snip, no sex!

Didimum · 19/10/2024 19:29

orangeroll · 19/10/2024 19:25

I never believe the women who bend over backwards defending men who won't do it. Denial.

You don’t believe what about it?

Not all men don’t wish to have a vasectomy because they are afraid of pain, don’t respect their partner or feel emasculated. Some just plain do not wish to have a voluntary medical procedure.

There is no defending ‘men’ as a blanket wash. Criticise the shit ones and leave the decent ones be.

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:25

Almostwelsh · 19/10/2024 19:24

A bit off topic, but a lot of American women don't want to rely on vasectomies since Roe v Wade was overturned, as they could still get pregnant by rape from a man other than their husband. I believe requests for female sterilisation are increasing. Depressing isn't it.

Indeed but at least their partners are doing their bit too.

orangeroll · 19/10/2024 19:25

I never believe the women who bend over backwards defending men who won't do it. Denial.

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:25

It la just very convenient though isn’t it that a 10% risk so 90% fine is such a huge reason for men to not do anything. Add in how a lot of men detest condoms even for a one night stand.

They seemingly want to take zero control
of their own fertility. Yet would resent every penny going to said baby of a one nighter.

The male pill stopped during clinical
trials because shocker the same side effects women get where considered too bad 🙄 but it’s fine women can fill themselves with hormones or no sex. So no partner basically.

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2024 19:24

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:22

It's not risky.

She clearly did it wrong. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to keep track of your cycle.

Obviously. she and her husband had a machine that counted days or took temperatures or whatever it was they were supposed to do. Didn’t work.

Almostwelsh · 19/10/2024 19:24

A bit off topic, but a lot of American women don't want to rely on vasectomies since Roe v Wade was overturned, as they could still get pregnant by rape from a man other than their husband. I believe requests for female sterilisation are increasing. Depressing isn't it.

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:22

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2024 19:20

And extremely risky. I knew a mum at my daughter’s school. She tracked her fertile cycle. Mother of five.

It's not risky.

She clearly did it wrong. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to keep track of your cycle.

CroftonWillow · 19/10/2024 19:22

It's a big step psychologically to permanently disable their only essential function, regardless of their current circumstances. I get it.

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:22

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:18

There's a small window each month when you can get pregnant (fertile window) it's linked to ovulation.

Rather than asking your partner to go through a surgical procedure that could go wrong, I would suggest keeping track of your cycle if you don't want to get pregnant. It's very simple to do.

I got pregnant during a miscarriage during the very low bleeding stage. Not sure I was meant to know I was ovulating…

theriseandfallofFranklinSaint · 19/10/2024 19:22

Well my husband must be one if the 1/10 as he's had a lot more pain and ongoing discomfort than I have from two pregnancies and births.

But to the original OP, of my close friendship circle, all the men had it after the birth of the second child except for one man (and all the other men had a few comments about that...)

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2024 19:20

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:18

There's a small window each month when you can get pregnant (fertile window) it's linked to ovulation.

Rather than asking your partner to go through a surgical procedure that could go wrong, I would suggest keeping track of your cycle if you don't want to get pregnant. It's very simple to do.

And extremely risky. I knew a mum at my daughter’s school. She tracked her fertile cycle. Mother of five.

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2024 19:18

Didimum · 19/10/2024 19:08

OK. For the THIRD time on this thread, I didn’t say pregnancy wouldn’t be on me, I said contraception isn’t all on me.

An extra 1.9% of protection does not justify anyone pressuring my DH into having a medical procedure that he doesn’t want to have.

If another woman isn’t satisfied with those odds then that’s between her and her partner to resolve within their relationship.

Sorry. Missed that. My appologies.

MinnieMountain · 19/10/2024 19:18

Slightly unusual, but I'm on medication which causes birth defects, I’d had enough of hormonal contraception and worried about my coil slipping. DH arranged it quickly when I asked.

I definitely judge fathers who won’t have it done. They’ve seen what their DW/DP has been through to have their child, yet won’t even have a simple procedure done.

Rain11 · 19/10/2024 19:18

There's a small window each month when you can get pregnant (fertile window) it's linked to ovulation.

Rather than asking your partner to go through a surgical procedure that could go wrong, I would suggest keeping track of your cycle if you don't want to get pregnant. It's very simple to do.

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 19:15

A lot of men in America are now getting the snip much earlier than before due to the new abortion laws. Well the ones who care about their partner 😅

Didimum · 19/10/2024 19:12

Lighttodark · 19/10/2024 18:33

Accept this but the question is why are men so unwilling to accept those risks and happy for their partners to take hormonal contraception etc which also carries risks and side effects?

Probably because the woman in the relationship more readily accepts it. Should she if she also doesn’t want to – of course not, but then she has every right to refuse as much as the man does.

Didimum · 19/10/2024 19:08

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2024 18:53

It won’t be on him though you get pregnant, it will be on you both.

OK. For the THIRD time on this thread, I didn’t say pregnancy wouldn’t be on me, I said contraception isn’t all on me.

An extra 1.9% of protection does not justify anyone pressuring my DH into having a medical procedure that he doesn’t want to have.

If another woman isn’t satisfied with those odds then that’s between her and her partner to resolve within their relationship.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 19/10/2024 19:03

It can also be done privately from as little as £500 and up if he can't wait that long.
It's really not that difficult to access. That's an excuse. Not an actual barrier.

To be fair, £500 is a lot for some families, and in my area, the NHS does not fund vasectomies.

Obviously £500 is cheaper than a baby. But it's not cheaper than free female contraception. So that definitely can be a barrier for some couples.