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Husbands 'emotions'

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Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 11:16

Whenever my husband is mildly inconvenienced, or sad, or hungry or any other negative emotion, he comes across as angry. He tells me that I shouldn't take notice of this because he's not angry 'at me'. I don't know how I'm supposed to do that when he's stomping around the house shouting at the dogs etc etc.

We've discussed this many times. He's said that I'm trying to censor his emotions or that I only want him to feel certain emotions. I tell him that I just want him to express emotions in a healthier way - or at least acknowledge the actual emotions he's feeling rather than being angry by default.

We've just had a fight now because I've walked the dogs this morning (my only 'free time' I have in the week - 1hr15ush on sat and sun mornings) and I've come back to him being angry because DD is coughing (he's actually worried) and because she's not wearing socks and stepped outside to greet me.

For a balanced perspective he is under stress atm with a new job start and various other things however, he's always like this about one thing or another.

I just don't know what to do. We've been through so much this past year and I don't know how much more I can take of being the one to constantly manage everything to try and ensure he isn't in someway upset, but I'm not sure if he's right that I'm trying to police his emotions in some way?

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User100000000000 · 19/10/2024 16:01

This is pretty much how babies behave, isn't it? Anger and displeasure at the audacity of becoming hungry/tired/uncomfortable. He's throwing tantrums like a baby

User100000000000 · 19/10/2024 15:58

LTB. He has an anger management issue and trust me, I was your daughter in this scenario and it will^^ escalate. It's only a matter of time.

He's already making your lives miserable. Break free, OP.

Comingupriver · 19/10/2024 15:57

Incapable man. Women questions it. Man blames her.

you need to break this cycle (and LTB) before your children think it’s normal.

Polkad · 19/10/2024 15:53

OP, this is who he is and always has been.
An angry man.
There will always be something to annoy him, it'swho he is.
Unfortunately you have chosen to bring a child into this toxic dynamic.

Poor little thing. He is destroying her childhood.
Clearly you neither want to hear this or accept it, but that poor child will 100% pay the enormous price of his behaviour and your choices.

Talk to Women's aid.
Because he is abusive and he is emotionally abusing you both.
You may refused to accept that, but that poor child will battle a lifetime of anxiety and depression because of this.
She may make poor life choices too because she has been reared in a profoundly unsafe environment.

For goodness sake sort out your contraception so that you do not inflict him on another innocent child.

Angry men are the worst.
The children of angry man often go LC/NC as soon as they can and they sometimes judge their mothers very harshly for allowing them to be so damaged by them.
Just a heads up.

You both deserve so much better than him and this.

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 15:49

Eyesopenwideawake · 19/10/2024 14:11

I wonder if the responses on here would have been the same if the sexes had been reversed.

@Wrongemote I would hazard a guess that he believes nothing can be done/he can't change/he doesn't want to go 'there'?

Yes. He just started shouting at the dogs again (they weren't doing anything short worthy - just playing a little) and then I said 'do you want DD to accept this type of anger in relationships' which honestly wasn't the right time but I'm just so tired of it. He said his anger is rational.

Hea very much misplacing his general anger/frustration onto the dogs.

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pikkumyy77 · 19/10/2024 15:46

Ignore the snarky poster who thinks you have to put up with this because you have in the past. There have been several good articles in the Guardian about childhood trauma and restricted emotion. Especially fear of happiness or of relaxation. If you love him try to get him help. He is just so close to being able to be happy. Something blocks him. If he can work on himself the life he saves could be his own.

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 15:42

Westofeasttoday · 19/10/2024 15:06

if you don’t want an answer don’t ask. Your desire to ask for advice and then not like what you are given isn’t helpful either.

And your advice is to time travel? And then use a crystal ball?

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MilesOfCarpetTiles · 19/10/2024 15:33

Westofeasttoday · 19/10/2024 15:06

if you don’t want an answer don’t ask. Your desire to ask for advice and then not like what you are given isn’t helpful either.

Your answer was essentially 'you shouldn't have married him if this bothers you and you should never try to change anyone'.
She's perfectly entitled to think that's not actually going to help.

OP absolutely you can change this. Is there some underlying issue that's causing constant low-level irritation?

I also think some men don't realise how physically loud/dominating they can seem (especially to children and dogs) when they're doing what to them seems like actions within the 'normal range' - my DH sometimes raises his voice and it crosses the threshold to sounding quite livid when he's not (usually being a bit sarcastic / "I don't believe it!" rather than aggressive). I've addressed this with him and he hadn't realised how shouty he was.

Westofeasttoday · 19/10/2024 15:06

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 13:56

I mean this is a common type of response on MN that is never as helpful or smart as you think it is.

We have been through HUGE challenges this year and obviously that means that there's so much more opportunity for these behaviours and it seems he's in a bit of a rut with it now.

Sometimes I make him laugh but I see him catch himself and not give into the laugh fully, it's as if he has to constantly express that he's not happy/stressed or he feels like the feeling isn't valid. Hard to explain. Kind of like when you feel guilty for moments of happiness during bereavement.

Anyway, I do think I need to talk with him again but focus on how he's affecting DD. Otherwise I just can't do it for much longer.

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if you don’t want an answer don’t ask. Your desire to ask for advice and then not like what you are given isn’t helpful either.

pikkumyy77 · 19/10/2024 14:24

If anything I think thete is less tolernce for angry/irrational/negative women. Certainly not from their children and spouses. Such women are seen as NPD, harpies, horrors rather than seen as just overburdened innocents.

PickAChew · 19/10/2024 14:19

Eyesopenwideawake · 19/10/2024 14:11

I wonder if the responses on here would have been the same if the sexes had been reversed.

@Wrongemote I would hazard a guess that he believes nothing can be done/he can't change/he doesn't want to go 'there'?

Of course they would.

If possible and reasonable you deal directly and constructively with what is making you angry, you find an outlet to take the pressure off (eg exercise or cleaning) and you find a way of calming yourself (eg a shower or 5 minutes with a book). You don't scatter that angry energy randomly at people around you.

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/10/2024 14:14

He seems to think it's ok for you, your DD and your dogs to suffer so that he can experience his 'emotions'. It's not ok.

Eyesopenwideawake · 19/10/2024 14:11

I wonder if the responses on here would have been the same if the sexes had been reversed.

@Wrongemote I would hazard a guess that he believes nothing can be done/he can't change/he doesn't want to go 'there'?

Nothatgingerpirate · 19/10/2024 14:09

flyingefffs · 19/10/2024 13:27

As a PP said, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else

It’s not on to shout at the dogs. He shouldn’t have dogs if this is what he does.

Missed shouting at dogs....

KevinDeBrioche · 19/10/2024 14:06

Suppressed anger is equally toxic though. There's more and more work on this demonstrating links to disease, particularly in later life. Sounds like he could benefit from therapy, either way

CharlotteStreetW1 · 19/10/2024 13:59

When my DH was going through a particularly stressful period in his life, he could get angry and take it out on his nearest and dearest, i.e. me (not physically I hasten to add). Eventually I'd had enough and in my quietest (scariest) voice would shut him down with "do NOT speak to me like that" and/or "this is NOT my fault".

Because I would normally take myself away from the scene (which drove him nuts), when I did respond it would shock him out of his angry fog.

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 13:56

Westofeasttoday · 19/10/2024 12:50

So he’s been like this your entire relationship, you married him and had a kid with him and now it bothers you?

You want to change him now?

I get it’s not nice and you might not like it but honestly you knew this the whole time. You should never try to change anyone.

I mean this is a common type of response on MN that is never as helpful or smart as you think it is.

We have been through HUGE challenges this year and obviously that means that there's so much more opportunity for these behaviours and it seems he's in a bit of a rut with it now.

Sometimes I make him laugh but I see him catch himself and not give into the laugh fully, it's as if he has to constantly express that he's not happy/stressed or he feels like the feeling isn't valid. Hard to explain. Kind of like when you feel guilty for moments of happiness during bereavement.

Anyway, I do think I need to talk with him again but focus on how he's affecting DD. Otherwise I just can't do it for much longer.

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username3678 · 19/10/2024 13:54

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 13:49

Explaining to him that it might lead to DD accepting anger in relationships is a great point, and might be something that will help him snap out of it. Ove told him before that is doesn't matter if you're not angry 'at us' but the constant negative vibe in the house can't be ignored.

It would be great to have an open conversation where you both listen to each other. It's very important that he takes on board that he's his daughter's role model for relationships and he doesn't want her with an angry man.

That there is a way forward with the right help he can better manage his emotions. It's never too late to change.

StormingNorman · 19/10/2024 13:53

You can’t tell someone what their emotions should look and sound like. Although there may be some underlying issues if he’s expressing himself differently to how he has in the past.

Wrongemote · 19/10/2024 13:49

username3678 · 19/10/2024 12:45

You're bringing up your daughter to accept that men are angry. She may end up with an angry man herself.

For some people, anger feels safe because you're not vulnerable. Some people haven't got a clue how they're really feeling and express themselves through anger.

He could really do with some counselling. Mindfulness would also really help.

Explaining to him that it might lead to DD accepting anger in relationships is a great point, and might be something that will help him snap out of it. Ove told him before that is doesn't matter if you're not angry 'at us' but the constant negative vibe in the house can't be ignored.

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ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 19/10/2024 13:48

Your poor dogs and kid. Your daughter is being taught to appease an angry man. That this is normal, something to aspire to. Look up what cortisol does to a child.

pikkumyy77 · 19/10/2024 13:40

I love that the bottom line is “he shouldn’t shout at the dogs.” Because I suppose its fine to stomp around and shout at inanimate objects like wife and children.

Read “Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents.” Also get a chart that displays emotions and work with him (if he is capable) to recognize and anticipate his various emotional states. He can learn different responses to sadness/hunger/fear. He hasn’t yet but he can learn.

Teach him the acronym HALT: Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired? These are the internal cues that he self soothes with angry outbursts.

StripeyDeckchair · 19/10/2024 13:27

He's making his anger, stomping around & shouting YOUR fault.
I don't think that is reasonable

He's setting a bad example to your child/ren in only being able to express his emotions in a negative way that impacts the entire household.
His behaviour is unhealthy, immature, sets a poor example & makes him difficult to live with.

He needs to do some work on himself & learn to communicate & express himself like an adult

It would also give me the serious ick & put me off any intimate contact with him.

flyingefffs · 19/10/2024 13:27

Nothatgingerpirate · 19/10/2024 12:00

Oh, FGS...
Let him wallow and mellow, sort himself out.
Does he get better when he's not hungry, for example?
As a PP said, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else, which is doable.
My husband, who is three decades older, comes across as an angry 🐻 bear.
He claims he's hardly ever angry with me.
Others see him as grumpy as well, however he'd do anything for me. I'm 45, married for 20 years.
If your husband isn't a genuinely angry, shouty bastard with unresolved issues (sorry), then let him snap out of it - he's an adult.

As a PP said, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else

It’s not on to shout at the dogs. He shouldn’t have dogs if this is what he does.

MummyJ36 · 19/10/2024 13:26

He’s an adult and he needs to grow up.