To wonder if ‘body positivity’ has gone too far?

"It's just not taboo to talk about a summer body in real life. Go into any workplace in the UK and women will be talking about diets and losing weight for their holidays. All of this nonsense about 'you can't even say X anymore' is always total crap."

Fair enough. I thought 'diet culture' had become taboo and nobody said they wanted to be slim to look nice anymore. It always has to be for health reasons and always just for yourself.

I must have taken the banning of the beach body ads literally.

Well thats because its not a health condition!!

A few points overweight for some BAME patients is often a very high risk factor in diabetes so it depends. Its very difficult to cover everything.

Being overweight certainly makes more sense to me

Obesity is a major preventible cause of cancer, diabetes, joint replacements etc. So it’s not ok to celebrate that.
However, an obese individual may still be an attractive and lovable person.

It's treating it more like an illness, which I think is justified with some obesity, but not for someone just a few points overweight. I think it's being adopted in the UK too.

I'm short, but nobody says I 'have under-height'.

I appreciate your perspective, but the person I was initially responding to didn’t actually “call me out.” They mentioned orthorexia and over exercising first and then sought clarification about whether my thread was focused on fat people or underweight people.

I was being facetious though, it was clear you were not concerned about orthorexia.

I think 'has overweight' is slightly American as a term isnt it? Ive had doctors talk to me about 'having vast adipose tissue'.

I suppose either way is just describing the same thing

I have lived this, I have been morbidly obese and now normal BMI, I can tell you that many of us get caught up in 'oh its ok, most people are fat' 'oh its ok I can find nice things to wear' 'Im a real woman, not like those skinnie minnies'

It just seems like you are projecting your experience and feelings.

" women who are clearly very overweight calling themselves 'curvy.' I am quite 'curvy' myself and find it annoying and ludicrous."

I think the new one is 'midsize' for 'plussize'. Mid size should mean actually medium, not whatever has become the average in our obesogenic culture.

It's just not taboo to talk about a summer body in real life. Go into any workplace in the UK and women will be talking about diets and losing weight for their holidays. All of this nonsense about 'you can't even say X anymore' is always total crap.

And sure some people online will be saying 'has overweight' but it's not normal parlance, and even if it was - so what?

I remember that thread...lots of posters said OP was being harsh to her friend.

From what I remember, it was about a 30 second walk or something?

Im sorry, can you clarify what you are asking me

Being overweight or obese is not ok health wise

No one thinks that though. You are the muddled one.

You are correct! Far too many people are overweight or obese!
unfortunately it’s been normalised

So basically you want fat people to stop celebrating and accepting their bodies because you dislike the fact that there’s health conditions linked to it? Such a shitty disguised excuse to start a fat shaming thread. At least have the brains to come up with a more creative way than one that’s been done to death a millions times already.

I think it's nice if fat people see some positive representations of themselves and feel better. It really won't make them 'think twice' about losing weight, it actually makes it easier to live more healthily. Feeling shame about being fat has been shown to increase weight gain. Sorry, but fat people get fatter when they hate themselves. Helping people to have better self esteem gives them better health outcomes.

Agree 100%.

YANBU.
My colleague keeps referring to the 'summer body' she wants. I'm always slightly shocked by it because in the UK it's become taboo to say that, but we are in another country.

Also, doctors, like Dr Mike, who say it's healthier to be in the healthy weight range are called 'fat phobic' and we now have to say that a person 'has overweight' rather than 'is overweight'.

You're muddling two things up though

Being overweight or obese is not ok health wise

Whether you are an ok person as well as being overweight/obese is a completely different thing

No one is talking about hiding away

I have lived this, I have been morbidly obese and now normal BMI, I can tell you that many of us get caught up in 'oh its ok, most people are fat' 'oh its ok I can find nice things to wear' 'Im a real woman, not like those skinnie minnies'

Its all psychological denial

We are getting bigger as a nation because being overweight is normalised, its seen as 'just one of those things', overeating is seen as normal because 'wow look at that portion size, isnt that great'

I think it's nice if fat people see some positive representations of themselves and feel better. It really won't make them 'think twice' about losing weight, it actually makes it easier to live more healthily. Feeling shame about being fat has been shown to increase weight gain. Sorry, but fat people get fatter when they hate themselves. Helping people to have better self esteem gives them better health outcomes.

I remember a thread a while back.

The OP's friend had struggled with her weight but then latched onto this "body positivity" thing and stopped caring. It's one thing to try and feel confident in your own skin, it's another to put your health at risk.

She was out of breath after a short walk along a not-particularly-steep street. Was trying to insist that the group agree with her that it was a challenge before the OP ran out of patience and snapped back at her.

I don’t think shame helps.

Shame is not going to result in a healthier society. Problem is we aren’t a particularly educated one so some think shame is a motivator.

Go to any hospital & you will see obese health professionals. Is it because they don’t know the dangers & consume to much social media?

I do think that a lot of overweight celebrities who say they are happy being fat suddenly lost weight when ozempic was readily available.

I’m a bigger person myself. I know the health risks. I don’t think m/any people are fat without being aware of it and because they’ve chosen it when the world is so much kinder to thin people. It's honestly hard to lose weight (I am currently having success with weight loss medication but who knows how sustainable that will be). I don’t think shame helps.

No, I don’t think it would.