To wonder if ‘body positivity’ has gone too far?

Yes. Not everyone of course - which is why around 9% of people do not respond to the WLI. But if only 9% don't respond, thats 91% of people who are overweight, are overweight in part because they are deficient in GLP1 receptors that allow the body to respond the the GLP1 hormone. Thats a massive majority of people, who have been told all their life, by the media, by industries, by society, that they are lazy and need to eat less. When in fact, they have a hormonal imbalance as their body doesnt respond to the hormone that regulates food intake. This is why the injections stop "food noise". GLP1 tells us when we are hungry. If the brain isnt getting that message correctly, then they over eat. Even when a person has just eaten, that "food noise" is thinking about the next meal as the part of the brain that should stop, and does for people with adequate GLP1 receptors, continues. Its complex, but its proven, and not simply a choice to overeat.

Who said she liked being obese, she can feel confident and happy in herself and aim to lose weight for health reason..her weight is not tied to her love of herself, she is more than just her weight. Stop equating weight with worth.

I used to be thinner and go to the gym ,every day ,I even went on my wedding day .
But then both my boys with autism came out of school ,due to mental health,and they couldn't be left alone together,and I couldn't get to the gym ,and all the weight I'd spend years loosing ,just came back on .
It was heartbreaking,..I couldn't even leave the house alone never mind get to the gym.
It's now 10 years later and Im tackling it again,I'm on WL injections,just to get me back to the size where I'm comfortable to go back to the gym .
Sometimes things aren't so black and white ,and life gets in the way and ruins your efforts to be thin , especially if your not a naturally thin person

I think the people refusing to take responsibility are those whining that they have to look at fat people sometimes and can't handle the idea that people they personally disapprove of have the right to live their lives the way they choose. You can take personal responsibility to look away!

I can remember in my teens being rail thin and so fashion was accessible for me. But I can remember anyone over a size 14 had such a limited choice and to have to go into a store called ‘Evans Outsize’ must have been awful.
Once I did start to gain a few pounds I battled it and then ended up with an eating disorder. When the ‘size zero’ era arrived I was in my 30’s and seeing these young women who weren’t naturally thin starving themselves was awful.
I had a job in my 40’s which involved Instagram
and the ED reared its head again so I know how influential imagery can be.
Being ‘tiny’ may have been how I wanted to look but I never thought of the health consequences.
Now I’m in my 50’s and I can feel them. I also am probably moving towards overweight and that brings more health issues.
As a nation how and what we eat has changed so much. Eating alone looking at phones, fast food, takeaways, and increasing portion sizes often take us away from enjoying good food.
I think any extreme which is bad for your health in the long run is not good for you.
I also know that food is emotional issue that’s tied up with our mental state.
It’s great that inclusivity has improved so much. I also don’t like to think that anyone should be ashamed of how their body looks and feels. We only get one life and as my mum used to say, you are a long time looking at the lid of your coffin!
But in terms of health becoming unhealthy at a young age affects everything and three decades in trying to reverse that damage is difficult.
If you want a long, healthy life you need to eat for a long, healthy life but that also includes a sense of balance and enjoyment.

Which you can do whilst promoting body positivity. We have to move away from the idea you can tell how healthy someone is from their body type. You can have a high BMI but do loads of exercise, eat healthy and be happy. You can be slim through anxiety or smoking.

What needs to change is allowing companies to make and market unhealthy foods.

We live in the age of The Individual and those individuals refuse to take personal responsibility for anything at all.

I think the gym industry - and wider diet industry - actually thrives on people struggling to lose weight and keep it off. It's what keeps them in business and makes demand high - the more that people struggle to lose weight, the bigger the boom for anyone selling weight-loss strategies, right?

Are you telling me that all obese people are obese because they are medically inclined to be so???
gosh that must put an absolute spanner in the gym industry…

Well there’s less to see 😁

Obesity is now PROVEN to be a disease. Medically and scientifically proven. GLP1 injections reverse that disease, they allow the GLP1 hormone to work as it should, as it does, in those of a healthy weight. It so outdated and ignorant to just say eat less move more, when we know, for a fact, people are deficient in the receptor's for this hormone, that controls hunger amongst other things. Judging people for something they genetically and biologically cannot change without a medication is disgusting. Its like judging and blaming a type 1 diabetic for needing insulin, or judging someone who is anaemic for needing iron, or judging anyone who requires a medication to be healthy.

These medications arent available to all, so in the mean time, allowing someone to live and be positive about themselves rather than degrade and humiliate them for their weight, surely, its just the bloody humane thing to do.

What does 'just fat' mean in this context? Fat and therefore nothing else about them matters? Fat and therefore worthless? Fat and inevitably a host of other negative things?

Yeah the plane seat thing impinges on other people (welcome to the world where other people exist and do antisocial things, especially on transport!) but apart from that what does it matter if a fat person tries out a rollercoaster and lets other fat people know if they'll fit or not? Why is that a problem?

This entire thread is proof of that!

that's pretty unkind, so only thin people can wear revealing clothes?

Definitely. I sometimes watch these women on YouTube who try out the rides at Disneyworld to see if ‘plus size’ people will fit. Sorry but they’re just fat 🤷‍♀️

Also, the woman who’s ginormous and tries to squeeze into plane seats and then says that airlines should give her a free seat to accommodate her…She seems to forget that she’s draping herself all over the poor person next to her and taking up a third of the seat they’ve paid for. She says she’s gorgeous, she’s not.

Which seems like proof that body positivity has, indeed, not gone too far?

It's all fun and games being fat ,untill your joints start giving up and your on high blood pressure meds
I've never been so thankful for anything in my life as I have for my WL injections

The other day there was a thread slating people for using WLI's as a tool for loosing weight. Fat people just cannot win.

ahahaha a free cruise as well as not worrying about eating lots of burgers, nice
: )

If she’s so ‘healthy’ as you claim, and so positive about being obese, then why would she bother trying to lose weight in any way? Your post contradicts itself.

I just don't really want to see scantily dressed fat people because they feel positive about their bodies😁

I actually think the message needs to be that your appearance isn't the most important thing about you, nor does it define your worth, and that we all need to be less shallow.

Ah, thanks for sharing! I've heard about this brand when it's been recommended on here but never been on their site.

I wonder if they're trying to make it clear that their rights really are for everyone. When not postpartum, I'm usually a size 8 and average height but I have bought large or even extra large tights for as long as I can remember as they always seem to be far too small. I can imagine tights being particularly frustrating if in a larger body.

I think it's refreshing to see larger bodies in tights (they're usually on models with legs up to their armpits who make me look positively dumpy by comparison in mine 😂) although I think a mix of different body types would be best. But maybe it's a plus size brand - I'm not sure!

I don't even know how I've ended up with them coming up on my tictock ,I certainly didn't search for them.and it makes me feel very uncomfortable,but I'm not sure why .
They were all in the paper recently,they got a free cruise

that's interesting. I was thinking about healthy glowing influencers who aren't thin. I didn't know about the gluttony movement online 🙄