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To have stood my ground with SIL

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bagpuss90 · 19/10/2024 10:32

SIL is known for being quite pushy . I think I’ve posted about her on here before. She called me last night to ask if her son could borrow some camping gear from me (I’ve got loads of camping stuff) for an indoor activity with his cubs. I said yeh no problem . She asked if she could pick it up last night- I said no because I was getting ready to go out and didn’t have the time to sort it out. I said I’d do it over this weekend. I wrote it in my to do list. He doesn’t need the stuff til next weekend. Anyway 20 minutes later SIL was on my doorstep asking to pick the stuff up as she thought I’d forget and no I don’t have form for being forgetful. I had a cab picking me up in 15 minutes and I wasn’t quite ready . I probably was a bit short with her - telling her I’d already said I hadn’t got the time last night. She stomped off and messaged my DP (who was also out last night) to say how petty she thought I was being. I wasn’t being petty- the stuff is packed in the garage and I simply did not have the time to sort it . Was also dressed to go out and didn’t want to be raking about in a dusty garage. I’ve had a sarcastic message this morning from her .

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sprigatito · 22/10/2024 19:15

Tell her her attitude stinks and she can buy her own bloody equipment.

Madamum18 · 22/10/2024 19:12

When heard about the sarcastic message best response would have been:

Hi SIL. I understand that you think I am being petty. I have no idea why my expecting you to:

  1. respect our arrangement made on the phone that I would sort and drop camping equipment at yours
  1. not suggest I am forgetful based on no evidence whatsoever
  1. trust me to do as I say

can be construed by you as petty. I consider my expectations entirely reasonable.

As arranged I will drop the equipment off at yours during the week.

Any response from.her that isnt an apology, just ignore!

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 22/10/2024 13:19

RetirementIsGreat · 22/10/2024 00:46

If you do end up lending it, I wouldn't be surprised if she just kept all. She is already being nasty and rude about it. I wouldn't lend it at all after her behavior.

Yes, this is certainly a trick that she might try.

She may frame it as you 'had too much stuff in the way of it' and 'couldn't get at it to use it when it was needed (i.e. demanded) anyway', so she's 'doing you a favour' - with no common-sense acknowledgement of the fact that most people store the less-often used things at the back and plan ahead for getting them just before they're needed.

RetirementIsGreat · 22/10/2024 00:46

If you do end up lending it, I wouldn't be surprised if she just kept all. She is already being nasty and rude about it. I wouldn't lend it at all after her behavior.

Toomanyemails · 21/10/2024 16:21

Leave it to your DP to sort. He should reply to make it clear SIL is in the wrong, along the lines of "I've spoken to Bagpuss. She said you could borrow our stuff but wouldn't have time to dig it out of the garage until Sunday, so I'm not sure why you turned up when she'd said she was busy and now you're being rude to her. We will drop the stuff round on Sunday for DN, but please don't treat Bagpuss like that, especially when she's doing you a favour!"

Depending where she is on the scale of slightly annoying to total CF, I'd consider reducing contact to pleasantries and family events and leaving DP to handle anything he wants to do beyond that.

gerryk62 · 21/10/2024 15:22

Nothing to do with not having much money. Manners cost nothing and she I was very rude to you
o tell her to sling her hook and pop into Argos

Pippetypoppity · 21/10/2024 08:44

Message back with. ‘I was disappointed to receive your last message which was somewhat sarcastic. This is unhelpful. In the interests of a harmonious family dynamic I would very much appreciate am apology. I will be glad to locate and retrieve the camping gear for you if you respect me enough to oblige. It is important that we try to treat each other decently. I hope you also feel as strongly about maintaining mutual respect and a good relationship as I do.’ Then don’t answer until apology arrives - just resend, if you get more sarcasm.

Toptops · 20/10/2024 20:07

Cheeky madam!
(Her)

kop2054 · 20/10/2024 18:03

To be honest @bagpuss90 if it was for her and not her son I would have said not to let her have it with that attitude, but you don't want the son to suffer. As you can tell from all the votes, nobody thinks you are being unreasonable, you should stand your ground. I hope your DP feels the same.

Cherrysoup · 19/10/2024 20:13

I’d be really cross, first because you said now, second because she then turned up! You’re not stupid, why on earth did she think turning up was a great idea when you’d told her not that evening? Is she normally this entitled?

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 19/10/2024 20:06

HideousKinky · 19/10/2024 11:24

She's very rude - when someone is doing you a favour you allow them to do it at their own convenience and accept gratefully whenever that is

Indeed. Most people understand that, when somebody is doing you a favour, you act considerately and work to their convenience - so that they don't withdraw it or decide it's too much hassle when you ask next time, even if not because you are just actually grateful for their kindness.

It tends to be not very bright people who respond in an entitled, demanding, bulldozery way as the recipient of favours - then they are puzzled as to why people stop offering/agreeing to them in future.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 19/10/2024 20:00

User100000000000 · 19/10/2024 11:20

What type of person shows up on the doorstep after being told not tonight?! CFs, that's who. Reminds me of the CF threads.

Speaking of which, we've not had a 'Describe your encounters with a CF' thread for a while! Someone please start one 🙏

Feel free to start one yourself - we're overdue a good new CF thread!

Lemonadeand · 19/10/2024 18:07

Tell her to borrow the camping stuff from someone else if your availability offer doesn’t suit her.

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 17:26

SilverChampagne · 19/10/2024 17:00

For someone so easily offended, you’re pretty offensive yourself.

Good grief. I'm not easily offended. I answered a question. I wasn't the original poster regarding the word.

Beesandhoney123 · 19/10/2024 17:16

Dear x, what's the urgency? Who is pressuring you?!" Is wed OK and should dp drop it off? Ps don't drag dp into this, he is not my boss.

She might need it sooner as they like to check all the equipment. But she should have said, not just panicked and turned up.

MonkeyTennis34 · 19/10/2024 17:14

JustWalkingTheDogs · 19/10/2024 16:03

I don't know what your SIL sarcastic message was but I think I'd respond with.

'Hi SIL, I think what you meant to say was 'apologies for turning up yesterday and disrupting your evening. I really appreciate you putting yourself out for my ds. Please let me know when it's convenient to collect the camping gear and I'll come and get it then, with a bottle of your favourite wine as a sorry and thank you'

If not, feel free to borrow or buy the camping gear elsewhere.

Cheers OP.

Fantastic!

SilverChampagne · 19/10/2024 17:00

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 16:52

The word fucktard was used. Which is derived from r*tard. And hence is offensive.

Why don't you sit down and engage your brain?

For someone so easily offended, you’re pretty offensive yourself.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/10/2024 16:56

So is your partner her brother? He needs to tell her in no uncertain terms to back off. Silly cow. Good on you for standing firm!!

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 16:54

NinaPersson · 19/10/2024 13:54

Yes I would never use the latter, I probably didn’t need the link. Maybe it could have been put better but it doesn’t actually say the r word does it.

Edited

It's derived from/based on the word and is intended to call it to mind.

You know, when you know better you're supposed to do better, not argue for still being shitty.

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 16:52

SilverChampagne · 19/10/2024 16:13

That word wasn’t actually used, stand down.

The word fucktard was used. Which is derived from r*tard. And hence is offensive.

Why don't you sit down and engage your brain?

bergamotorange · 19/10/2024 16:15

SilverChampagne · 19/10/2024 16:13

That word wasn’t actually used, stand down.

I think you have not read the posts properly.

The word used is offensive because it is derived from another offensive word.

It is all explained quite clearly in the thread of posts.

SilverChampagne · 19/10/2024 16:13

Dawevi · 19/10/2024 13:47

Fucktard. From the word r*tard.

https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur

You can Google "why is r*tard offensive" to find lots of other resources on this.

That word wasn’t actually used, stand down.

Shinyandnew1 · 19/10/2024 16:13

What was the sarcastic message and what did your DH say to her when she phoned, @bagpuss90 ?

So rude, I would be really pissed off if I was you.

Polkad · 19/10/2024 16:09

HelplessSoul · 19/10/2024 15:48

The OP had a conversation with her SIL - and the stupid woman still rocked up at the OP's door - uninvited.

That alone is reason enough to block the stupid fucker.

Exactly.
OP was the adult.
SIL is rude entitled and disrespectful.
She has form for this behaviour.

I wouldn't trust someone like that to return my property the way they got it.

Some adults chase after rude entitled CF's.

Other adults drop the rope, avoid and refuse to reward rude, ignorant behaviour.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 19/10/2024 16:03

I don't know what your SIL sarcastic message was but I think I'd respond with.

'Hi SIL, I think what you meant to say was 'apologies for turning up yesterday and disrupting your evening. I really appreciate you putting yourself out for my ds. Please let me know when it's convenient to collect the camping gear and I'll come and get it then, with a bottle of your favourite wine as a sorry and thank you'

If not, feel free to borrow or buy the camping gear elsewhere.

Cheers OP.