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Single mums should be offered a free flu jab?

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Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:18

This is off the back of a very hard week. I picked up a nasty dose of flu, probably from a baby group. I have a super high pain threshold but when I have a cold I'm utterly useless. I need two or three days to hibernate and recover.

Last week I discovered that you can't do this as a single mum. DD (7.5 months) needed me. So I had to plough on, and it was hard. It's been over a week and I still haven't shaken it off completely, but now DD has it (it's breaking my heart to see her unwell). She has been dosed up with Calpol but is very unsettled. Between the two of us, it is probably going to write off nearly 3 weeks.

AIBU to think that single parents should be offered free flu jabs?

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PrioritisePleasure24 · 19/10/2024 08:08

Focus on becoming as healthy as you can. Lots of food with nutrients. Zinc and vit c and fluids can help speed up a cold. Take vit d in winter.

Have cold and flu remedies in the house. Dioralyte etc so you are prepared. You have a child who is going to regularly bring you back lovely illness most of which you can’t be vaccinated against.

Its not cost effective to give you a flu jab, it’s only the most vulnerable that get it ( there are more that should!) but it’s easy accessible from a pharmacy for around £10-£20. I know plenty people that do this.

TroysMammy · 19/10/2024 08:07

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:46

@ByMerryKoala that's fair enough, I hadn't thought of it that way. It's just a really rubbish situation to be in. Definitely the hardest week I've had as a parent. I have lupus and so always get flare ups following a cold so it really drags on. I should probably stop wallowing. Flu just generally sucks.

Lupus is autoimmune so you should get a free jab at your surgery. However the flu jab doesn't protect you from a cold or prevent flu.

Coconutter24 · 19/10/2024 08:07

GretchenWienersHair · 19/10/2024 08:02

Maybe not single parents specifically, but people on low incomes definitely (if this isn’t already a thing?)

But why people on low incomes? It’s always the people with decent incomes that are made to feel punished or made to pay. If it was to go free with proof of benefits or low income look at the percentage of those that don’t work…. They are the ones (provided they’re not vulnerable) who can afford to stay home and be poorly

Swissrollover · 19/10/2024 08:06

HappyTwo · 19/10/2024 08:04

Check with the gp I am guessing since you have lupus you would get a free flu jab?

Good point, although it might rely on being on immune suppressants. I know when I came off them, I stopped being eligible despite still having an autoimmune condition. I usually buy one for myself as my children get them free at secondary school.

2boyzNosleep · 19/10/2024 08:05

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:52

I think it's fantastic that the NHS does offer free vaccines! I understand why people say they don't think it's justified, I absolutely will put money aside to pay for one next time - it's not something I had even considered.

I find it interesting that pregnant women get offered a flu jab, 2 and 3 year olds get a free jab, so do primary school children, however there is no provision for under 2s and new parents. Especially because under 2s may be vulnerable but not yet diagnosed (as too young). Please feel free to correct my flawed thinking!!

Probably because it's not tested for under 2, so unlicensed.

2 & 3 yr olds & primary age children are given it to stop it spreading as much and to reduce hospital admissions. The main cause of children being hospitalised is due to respiratory illnesses, their lungs aren't fully developed until 8 yrs old.

Pregnant women get it to prevent any further complications for mum & baby down the line.

The elderly and those that qualify due to an underlying vulnerability (eg asthma) get it as they are the ones most likely to suffer serious complications from flu.

There's no evidence to suggest that an otherwise healthy adult requires a flu jab, as others have said, it's a preventative measure to reduce the amount of people needed hospital admission.

HappyTwo · 19/10/2024 08:04

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:46

@ByMerryKoala that's fair enough, I hadn't thought of it that way. It's just a really rubbish situation to be in. Definitely the hardest week I've had as a parent. I have lupus and so always get flare ups following a cold so it really drags on. I should probably stop wallowing. Flu just generally sucks.

Check with the gp I am guessing since you have lupus you would get a free flu jab?

Coconutter24 · 19/10/2024 08:02

YouveGotAFastCar · 19/10/2024 07:46

They do offer it to expectant parents - I’m due mine in November. They also offer it to children between 2 and 5, I believe? Definitely 2 and 3 year olds get it free.

I think after that point, it’s a personal decision for the parent, whatever their circumstances.

I’m sorry you’ve been ill.

My children have been offered it every year in primary and secondary school so it must be up to age 16 or something

GretchenWienersHair · 19/10/2024 08:02

Maybe not single parents specifically, but people on low incomes definitely (if this isn’t already a thing?)

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 08:00

SpringleDingle · 19/10/2024 07:53

You haven’t got flu, you have a cold. It’s miserable and a couple of duvet days would be nice but having to plough on won’t kill you. Flu is debilitating and can be fatal in vulnerable people. A flu jab wouldn’t prevent you getting a cold. You will likely spend the next 5 years with every known germ circulating your system as your new superspreader joins nursery. If you found the cold hard wait until you get norivirus or the winter vomiting bug!! 🤢

I have got flu. That's why it's been so hard. Proper flu.

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Humphhhh · 19/10/2024 07:59

OP unless you've been a single parent I think it's impossible for people to understand (certainly on Mumsnet) just how difficult it is when any of the wheels fall off the careful balancing act that is required just to survive. Cbeebies ffs 🙄

There's very little statutory support for single parents, empathy from the state is as lacking as it is on here. Rest up, it does get easier as they get older. Only thing I can say is prioritise your prevention (dual defence, zinc&VitC, good diet, keep warm etc etc)

MissEloiseBridgerton · 19/10/2024 07:58

Getting sick as a parent is par for the course. I remember my husband and I getting Norovirus when my daughter was 7 months old. Possibly the worst 48 hours in my life! You can't vaccinate against that, or hand foot and mouth, or strep, or all the other 6 million illnesses kids get.

Did you actually have flu or was it just a heavy cold? We have just had 2 weeks of 2 weird horrible illnesses back to back and it's been horrendous, but not flu. No flu vaccine would have prevented it.

It's not a convenience vaccination, it's to prevent severe complications of flu on vulnerable groups.

coodawoodashooda · 19/10/2024 07:58

coodawoodashooda · 19/10/2024 07:56

Omg.

In my experience as a single mum this is not as easy as you'd think.

mauvish · 19/10/2024 07:56

By the way, if you can recover from a cold in 2-3 days, that's not a heavy cold! Allow at least a week and a half for a full-blown HEAVY cold!

Old saying - 3 days coming, 3 days with you, 3 days going. GP surgeries get full of people every winter worried because they've had a cold for 4 days - well, that's par for the course.

Whatever you've had, hope you and your LO are feeling much better very soon.

coodawoodashooda · 19/10/2024 07:56

Haroldwilson · 19/10/2024 07:24

Single mums might be millionaires with nannies or have extended family nearby though right? Whereas a mum in a relationship might have a useless partner or one who works away.

And you'd need a way of registering yourself as a single mum. When the jab costs £20 in the first place. I'd find the money to pay next time.

Sympathy because it's incredibly hard with sickness and kids but I don't think your idea is a good one.

If I was a single mum I'd try to buddy up with other single mums so you can form a support system for times like this.

Hope your baby is better soon. It does get a bit easier when they're bigger.

Omg.

ItsNeverAMannequin · 19/10/2024 07:56

Mumistiredzzzz · 19/10/2024 07:49

It's £16 at Tesco and apparently £10 at superdrug according to PP. Out of reach for some perhaps but not all.

I know lots of people can afford that, my point was not all people can. I understand those aren’t massive costs to many of us, but people experiencing true poverty and hardship don’t have that sort of extra cash and arguably suffer most when unwell. People are feeding 2/3 people for a fiver a week so £10 for a jab would feel like a lot. Those are the people I think would benefit most. X

Swissrollover · 19/10/2024 07:56

I notice that you frequently interchange flu and a cold, which are very different viruses.

I suspect from your description that you had a cold, so a flu jab wouldn't have prevented it. Also, it would only prevent the strain of flu that is suspected to be most prevalent that year, so not 100%.

I hope you and little one recover soon.

newrubylane · 19/10/2024 07:53

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:18

This is off the back of a very hard week. I picked up a nasty dose of flu, probably from a baby group. I have a super high pain threshold but when I have a cold I'm utterly useless. I need two or three days to hibernate and recover.

Last week I discovered that you can't do this as a single mum. DD (7.5 months) needed me. So I had to plough on, and it was hard. It's been over a week and I still haven't shaken it off completely, but now DD has it (it's breaking my heart to see her unwell). She has been dosed up with Calpol but is very unsettled. Between the two of us, it is probably going to write off nearly 3 weeks.

AIBU to think that single parents should be offered free flu jabs?

I know it's annoying when people say this, but you probably didn't have the flu. It sounds like a heavy cold. When I had flu I couldn't get out of bed for 2 weeks. It took all my effort just to go to the toilet. It took months to feel normal again. There's literally no way I could have taken care of a baby in that first 2 weeks.

The jab doesn't stop you catching colds, just the actual flu (and it wouldn't actually stop you catching it, but hopefully symptoms would be significantly milder).

You might want to think about what help/support you could line up for if you ever had a severe illness, unlikely though it is.

SpringleDingle · 19/10/2024 07:53

You haven’t got flu, you have a cold. It’s miserable and a couple of duvet days would be nice but having to plough on won’t kill you. Flu is debilitating and can be fatal in vulnerable people. A flu jab wouldn’t prevent you getting a cold. You will likely spend the next 5 years with every known germ circulating your system as your new superspreader joins nursery. If you found the cold hard wait until you get norivirus or the winter vomiting bug!! 🤢

Journeyintomelody · 19/10/2024 07:52

I think it's fantastic that the NHS does offer free vaccines! I understand why people say they don't think it's justified, I absolutely will put money aside to pay for one next time - it's not something I had even considered.

I find it interesting that pregnant women get offered a flu jab, 2 and 3 year olds get a free jab, so do primary school children, however there is no provision for under 2s and new parents. Especially because under 2s may be vulnerable but not yet diagnosed (as too young). Please feel free to correct my flawed thinking!!

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mauvish · 19/10/2024 07:51

But OP - did you have flu, or did you have a cold? The two are not synonymous, or on a spectrum, and a flu jab is completely ineffective against a cold.

RolaColaLola · 19/10/2024 07:51

ByMerryKoala · 19/10/2024 07:38

The flu jab is offered free of charge to vulnerable groups because it saves a fortune over treating the sheer number of NHS patients that would result from this demographic who would need costly treatment. Not because they have been deemed worthy of the help. Everyone else can pay for it.

This. And to reduce DEATH.

to the OP ‘the same can’t be said’ for the groups who currently receive on NHS as there’s high risk it will wipe out the rest of their lives, not just three weeks.

sorry you’re poorly. Put CBeebies on and snuggle under a blanket.

Mumistiredzzzz · 19/10/2024 07:49

ItsNeverAMannequin · 19/10/2024 07:48

I think the cost is likely prohibitive for many of those who might benefit most from having it.

It's £16 at Tesco and apparently £10 at superdrug according to PP. Out of reach for some perhaps but not all.

DragonGypsyDoris · 19/10/2024 07:49

Definitely not. Impractical, divisive and a little ridiculous.

ItsNeverAMannequin · 19/10/2024 07:48

Mumistiredzzzz · 19/10/2024 07:46

I've had flu, and been hospitalised as a result so I understand the reality of having flu but just buy the jab yourself if you're that concerned about getting it again.

I think the cost is likely prohibitive for many of those who might benefit most from having it.

DragonGypsyDoris · 19/10/2024 07:48

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