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Nationwide bank suddenly requiring job title and salary etc on app?? Needs info before Jan 25?

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OctaveoOctober · 18/10/2024 21:58

Has anyone else had this? In finding it exceeding intrusive??

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PanicAttax · 22/10/2024 08:41

So will this flag when you take £ks out to pay trades cash in hand that they demand? It would be nice to think it would stop the non-payment of maintenance for kids this way but I suspect the banks aren't at all interested in that kind of social cohesion.

Oblomov24 · 20/10/2024 16:50

Saw it today.

Terrifiedofthedentist · 20/10/2024 13:35

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/10/2024 12:55

@Terrifiedofthedentist

are you always so rude?

I'm not dense, I don't need to be patronised by you. I'm going to stop there before I'm equally rude to you.

But your comments are silly and if you can’t see why your source of funds and your regular mandated credits are of paramount importance to a bank, then well, sorry that is pretty dense

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/10/2024 12:55

Terrifiedofthedentist · 20/10/2024 09:50

No it isn’t… good god! You’re being dense

they’d also need to know for your mortgage, especially as you’ve said it’s been there for 10 years. So unless you’re on a 10 yr fix, you’ve product transferred in that time, which means your loan wasn’t re underwritten so your income didn’t need to be proved again (unless you took additional borrowing, changed the term etc)

@Terrifiedofthedentist

are you always so rude?

I'm not dense, I don't need to be patronised by you. I'm going to stop there before I'm equally rude to you.

crosbyrose · 20/10/2024 11:12

We also call up our vulnerable clients to query what they are withdrawing money for if it seems out of line with their usual behaviour. We have prevented many people being victims of scams that way. Would everyone prefer we didn’t stick our noses in there either? It could be you or your parents/grandparents that this happens to. People don’t start moaning about their privacy then do they. Can’t have it both ways unfortunately.

crosbyrose · 20/10/2024 11:04

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/10/2024 09:26

@crosbyrose

nope, my job title is completely irrelevant. I used to be an Accountant. I'm not now, I do several things that make up my income. All of them are far less 'professional' . My income all goes into my main account (with another bank) I transfer money to bank B because their current account & a savings account are a much better interest. My mortgage just happens to be with them & has been for a decade.

my job title IS irrelevant, as is my ££ of my 'main source' of income.

It’s your source of wealth that is being looked at. For most people salary/earnings will form the main part of that. But for others it could have come from inheritance or the sale of a business for example. Many people come from a long line of inherited wealth that was generated decades ago. It’s all relevant and forms the picture of you that is assessed when deciding the risk you pose to their business. That’s current financial regulation. Take it or leave it. If your job title was irrelevant then they wouldn’t bother asking. Believe me. They have better things to do honestly.

Superscientist · 20/10/2024 10:25

I couldn't open an account with the post office once about 10 years ago as it required me giving my occupation and there was nothing remotely close but did have oddly specific ones like bouncer and funeral director but nothing related to science.

Terrifiedofthedentist · 20/10/2024 10:20

Banks really aren’t the big bad guy, especially now with the amount of regulation there is, especially nationwide they are all about their ‘members’ and doing what’s right for them

Dotto · 20/10/2024 10:11

I see the tinfoil hat brigade are alive and kicking here. What nonsense conspiracy paranoia people spout, when they don't understand and can't be bothered to make proper enquiries.

Nasyan · 20/10/2024 09:57

It will probably end up that you will only be able to use the bank that your income goes into so they can keep track of it all.

Terrifiedofthedentist · 20/10/2024 09:50

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/10/2024 09:26

@crosbyrose

nope, my job title is completely irrelevant. I used to be an Accountant. I'm not now, I do several things that make up my income. All of them are far less 'professional' . My income all goes into my main account (with another bank) I transfer money to bank B because their current account & a savings account are a much better interest. My mortgage just happens to be with them & has been for a decade.

my job title IS irrelevant, as is my ££ of my 'main source' of income.

No it isn’t… good god! You’re being dense

they’d also need to know for your mortgage, especially as you’ve said it’s been there for 10 years. So unless you’re on a 10 yr fix, you’ve product transferred in that time, which means your loan wasn’t re underwritten so your income didn’t need to be proved again (unless you took additional borrowing, changed the term etc)

Terrifiedofthedentist · 20/10/2024 09:47

Sortumn · 20/10/2024 08:56

So for my current account, it asks where my main income comes from then how much I expect to come in to that account. I receive two identical amounts each month, plus additional smaller amounts. So my 'main' source of income - I picked one at random, will account for much less than half of what comes in. Surely it was pointless collecting that info because it's wildly inaccurate.

that’s a pure AmL question, and it’s because they are blanket question for everyone and the majority of people have one main source of income, but for you, they can see that you have consistent streams of income

AutumnLeaves24 · 20/10/2024 09:26

crosbyrose · 20/10/2024 07:44

But this is not how it works. It all works using a risk based approach. Nobody has time to keep an eye on everyone, so they have to keep more of an eye on those who are considered a higher risk. They don’t know who that is without asking the relevant questions. So your job title is relevant. Believe me. It’s what I do all day every day.
Do you think scammers just have a red alert against their name? Do you know how difficult it is to catch people?!

@crosbyrose

nope, my job title is completely irrelevant. I used to be an Accountant. I'm not now, I do several things that make up my income. All of them are far less 'professional' . My income all goes into my main account (with another bank) I transfer money to bank B because their current account & a savings account are a much better interest. My mortgage just happens to be with them & has been for a decade.

my job title IS irrelevant, as is my ££ of my 'main source' of income.

Nasyan · 20/10/2024 09:22

Sounds like it is set up for people with one career type job with a salary that comes in monthly, that isn't likely to change it much.

Sortumn · 20/10/2024 08:56

So for my current account, it asks where my main income comes from then how much I expect to come in to that account. I receive two identical amounts each month, plus additional smaller amounts. So my 'main' source of income - I picked one at random, will account for much less than half of what comes in. Surely it was pointless collecting that info because it's wildly inaccurate.

crosbyrose · 20/10/2024 07:44

AutumnLeaves24 · 19/10/2024 23:24

@purplebeansprouts

No, it's like people appreciate their privacy & don't want to be 'accountable' for their private decisions about their private money.

the banks need to be looking into the scumbag scammers & not how much Fred in Accounts earns or if he's a road sweeper or solicitor. What someone's job title is, is not relevant.

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But this is not how it works. It all works using a risk based approach. Nobody has time to keep an eye on everyone, so they have to keep more of an eye on those who are considered a higher risk. They don’t know who that is without asking the relevant questions. So your job title is relevant. Believe me. It’s what I do all day every day.
Do you think scammers just have a red alert against their name? Do you know how difficult it is to catch people?!

rwalker · 20/10/2024 06:12

Notmynamerightnow · 18/10/2024 22:53

Christ. What happens if you don't have a job?

Absolutely nothing they won’t care

but it would raise an alert to them if all of a sudden there was a lot of activity and money coming into your account when you declared you don’t have a job/income

they have an obligation around money laundering

Nasyan · 20/10/2024 06:00

JackJarvisEsq · 19/10/2024 20:31

because circumstances change.

im not earning the same money as i did when i was 16 even though i have the same bank account number

i have investments and income streams I didn’t have even 10 years ago

If you just comply the quicker they move on and let you get on with your day

If circumstances change they are not going to know are they, Nationwide probably have my job title from when I worked so that would tick that box, I am retired now though so unless they request this information each year it probably won't be correct anyway as people are not going to rush to inform their bank of change of employment each time, some people do variety of jobs and change a lot.

Bjorkdidit · 20/10/2024 02:49

purplebeansprouts · 19/10/2024 21:16

That's even more suspicious like you're trying to layer and conceal the money by moving it round

Eh? Lots of people move money between accounts to share expenses with a partner, put money in different pots for budgeting purposes or to take advantage of bonuses and other perks from banks.

I have several because they pay interest, cashback or give access to high interest regular savers. Money moves regularly between them. Millions of people do this.

Tarkan · 19/10/2024 23:58

I keep getting it but ours is a joint account with DH the only one of us working. It was originally his account before we met and he added me later but he hasn't had this thing at all.

AutumnLeaves24 · 19/10/2024 23:24

purplebeansprouts · 19/10/2024 07:18

It's almost like some people don't want financial crime to be tackled.

@purplebeansprouts

No, it's like people appreciate their privacy & don't want to be 'accountable' for their private decisions about their private money.

the banks need to be looking into the scumbag scammers & not how much Fred in Accounts earns or if he's a road sweeper or solicitor. What someone's job title is, is not relevant.

Terrifiedofthedentist · 19/10/2024 21:59

JudyJulie · 19/10/2024 21:34

My bank asked me questions by letter and phone call that were so intrusive that even my DH of 20 years wouldn't have known the answers. When I complained, they were very quick to offer compensation.

It was basically a GDPR issue. The info they needed, they already had. They didn't actually need to know my maiden surname, which predated the account, or how I spent my leisure time.

My account runs fine. My only ongoing issue is that I would like a credit card and they won't give me one because I won't give them my e mail address. Stalemate on that one, but I can live with it

But they can find that stuff out anyway and with ease… CRAs report this stuff all back to the banks. To a very granular detail

Terrifiedofthedentist · 19/10/2024 21:57

purplebeansprouts · 19/10/2024 21:17

It won't be to ensure they are selling products to their target market unless they explicitly say that is what it is for

I’m unclear what you mean, but of course it will. They’ll know who’s got the products and if aligns to their target market

Dotto · 19/10/2024 21:44

Feel free to keep your worldly cash under your mattress, if you prefer.

🤣

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/10/2024 21:36

purplebeansprouts · 19/10/2024 21:16

That's even more suspicious like you're trying to layer and conceal the money by moving it round

It's a standing order to a joint account for paying bills. They can easily see it's coming from my bank and my bank can see where it's going.

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